Putin has ordered his military to go to Donetsk and Luhansk regions in order to carry out "peacekeep
Source: The Guardian
Putin has ordered his military to go to Donetsk and Luhansk regions in order to carry out "peacekeeping functions." In text of the presidential order he signed today recognizing Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics. Russia officially occupying parts of Ukraine's Donbas region
Axios: The latest: In a decree recognizing the independence of the Donetsk People's Republic (DNR) and the Luhansk People's Republic (LNR), Putin ordered the Russian military to conduct "peacekeeping operations" in the occupied Ukrainian territories.
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/feb/21/russia-ukraine-news-latest-crisis-putin-biden-summit-kyiv-kiev-russian-invasion-threat-live-updates
I don't think this ill be militarily disputed by Ukraine as the region is already in control by pro Russian dictators but this will definitely get them more sanctions
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)Botany
(70,516 posts)Damn.
Deuxcents
(16,244 posts)I would be terrified. It looks like hell is coming.
Botany
(70,516 posts)... the tank's armor and then the crew gets roasted alive. I wonder if Putin can keep power after
a lot of Russians come back in body bags or to hospital beds.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Lets hope it doesn't get to that.
Botany
(70,516 posts)In a war the object is to kill the other side's troops.
eggplant
(3,911 posts)...it looks like they are plated in reactive armor, so I wonder how well it holds up to the latest shaped charges.
Botany
(70,516 posts)... tanks.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)time to place economic sanctions on him and his criminal enterprise......
aggiesal
(8,917 posts)If the Twitter poster is correct, this is on the road to Kyiv (Kyev).
EndlessWire
(6,537 posts)for Putin, aren't they? Formally recognize two areas, and voila! He thinks he can roll his tanks into two "new countries" and occupy them. Then, when Ukraine comes around and tells him to leave their country, he will claim they started a war. How simple that is!
But, alas, the rest of the world...
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Why the fuck is the Guardian accepting Putin's framing?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)orwell
(7,774 posts)...President Biden was right in his warning of imminent invasion.
Why is "the right" never right?
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)I am certain that if Biden took a more passive or apathetic approach to the events in Ukraine, then they would be calling him weak for not standing up to Russia. In fact, I'm certain they will call him weak and say he gave Ukraine to Russia, while at the same time calling him a warmonger for trying to start a war with Russia.
Jetheels
(991 posts)I thought theyre about Power, Dominance. Control. Greed.
The two parties are playing by two different rule books.
Except one of the parties has no rule book.
Im not sure one of them has yet to figure out this fact.
Sneederbunk
(14,291 posts)Roc2020
(1,616 posts)Chilling
ificandream
(9,373 posts)oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)bluestarone
(16,976 posts)No fucking summit, i hope!
marie999
(3,334 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)The invasion of Poland was in part justified by the Nazis because the sogenannte "corridor" to Krakow was "ethnic German."
Igel
(35,320 posts)And to some extent, with Ukraine. Maybe other former tsarist territories that imperialists wanted to consolidate for the world revolution.
Putin did it with Georgia (2x), Ukraine (Crimea) and Moldova.
It's a dictator's way of giving reluctant combatants and excuse to pontificate and non-combat.
US did it with "South" Vietnam.
OLDMDDEM
(1,575 posts)In the situation.
Nothing.
LoisB
(7,206 posts)nt
OLDMDDEM
(1,575 posts)IronLionZion
(45,451 posts)Yep, those tanks look super peaceful.
Jetheels
(991 posts)Russians have many words for war.
One such word is peace.
IronLionZion
(45,451 posts)Whether it's the Csars, Bolsheviks, or Putin/Oligarchs, some things never change in Russia.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Bullets are Lifesavers.
inanna
(3,547 posts)22:34
The officials say local people in the town of Makiivka, 15kms west of rebel-held Donetsk, have seen what appear to be Russian armoured vehicles on the move. One source - who declined to be named - said a huge convoy of Russian armoured personnel carriers and other equipment has been travelling for one and a half hours. It was spotted heading north towards the city of Yasynuvata, also in the Donestk region.
Video released by Ukraine tonight appears to show a column of military vehicles with their headlights on moving in convoy along a road. The officials said it was not possible to tell if the troops belonged to the regular Russian army, or were from Russian-controlled separatist units.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/feb/21/russia-ukraine-news-latest-crisis-putin-biden-summit-kyiv-kiev-russian-invasion-threat-live-updates
oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)This just makes it official
EarthFirst
(2,900 posts)Labeling this a Peacekeeping mission only further delivers the intent of Russian propaganda.
Warpy
(111,273 posts)but I strongly suspect those Russian troops aren't going to get the welcome Putin told them to anticipate from the ethnic Russians they are there to liberate.
If there is any lesson governments everywhere have needed to learn, it's that small countries full of people who have next to nothing will fight tooth and nail to keep what little they have.
Unfortunately, too many authoritarians and paranoid military hold the real power, and they will never learn this lesson. After all, they're not expected to die for it. People who aren't rich and/or powerful are expected to do that for them.
And so it goes.
orangecrush
(19,572 posts)Hit them hard, hit them early.
DBoon
(22,367 posts)without access to global banking networks, they grind to a halt
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/26/investing/swift-russia-ukraine/index.html
As Western governments threaten Russia with a package of unprecedented sanctions aimed at deterring President Vladimir Putin from ordering an invasion of Ukraine, there's one measure in particular that appears to strike fear at the heart of the Kremlin: cutting the country off from the global banking system.
US lawmakers have suggested in recent weeks that Russia could be removed from SWIFT, a high security network that connect thousands of financial institutions around the world.
Senior Russian lawmakers have responded by saying that shipments of oil, gas and metals to Europe would stop if that happened.
"If Russia is disconnected from SWIFT, then we will not receive [foreign] currency, but buyers, European countries in the first place, will not receive our goods oil, gas, metals and other important components," Nikolai Zhuravlev, vice speaker of Russia's upper house of parliament, said Tuesday, according to state media outlet TASS.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)The oligarchs don't like to carry cash in suitcases
gab13by13
(21,359 posts)May as well give up a piece of Czechoslovakia to avoid war.
What harm can come giving up a piece of Ukraine?
TomSlick
(11,100 posts)Putin has called what he thinks to be a bluff. It's time to either follow through with the threat or accept the re-establishment of the Soviet empire under the treads of Russian tanks.
DFW
(54,405 posts)Also, Putin's strangling of the Russian media is having its effect at home.
A friend of ours was station chief for West German Radio News in Moscow about 25 years ago. He had met a Russian girlfriend with whom he was (is) very happy, but they had a peculiar long distance romance because he said he could never live in Putin's (it was already obvious that was going to be, and for a long time) Russia. On the other hand, she speaks only Russian, and they agreed she would never be happy living in Germany. So they visited often, and went on extended trips together, usually in parts of Eastern Europe, but also NL, Belgium and France. Since Covid broke out, he hasn't seen her in two years, but they speak on the phone frequently.
He said that she has recently begun to parrot the Putin line about Ukraine, and had obviously been affected by the monopoly Putin now has on the Russian media. She only knows what Putin wants her, and all ordinary Russians, to hear. He says it is hard to get another point of view through to her, since their phone calls together are the ONLY occasions when she hears another point of view. She lives almost hand to mouth, trying to survive on an almost insulting pension, and has the luck to have a son living in Beograd, who can send her some money now and then. My German friend is stretched thin as well, since he has an ex and a problem daughter he has to pay for out of his own pension (his only income). Any authoritarian regime loves it when its citizens are "free to travel" or paper, but de facto are confined to where they are by economic circumstances.
No wonder Trump and Putin think each other are so great. Putin loves puppets he can manipulate (or owns outright, like Lukashenko). Trump loves totalitarians he wished he could emulate (wrong country, there, Donnie--so far, anyway).