Ukrainian ambassador says Russian platoon surrendered to Ukrainian forces
Source: The Hill
Ukrainian Ambassador to the U.S. Oksana Markarova said Thursday that a platoon of Russian soldiers surrendered to the Ukrainian military, saying they "didn't know that they were brought to Ukraine to kill Ukrainians."
At a press briefing, Markarova said, "Just before I came here, we got information from our chief commander that one of the platoons of the 74th motorized brigade from Kemerovo Oblast surrendered."
"They didn't know that they were brought to Ukraine to kill Ukrainians. They thought they were doing something else there," she added.
Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/international/595728-ukrainian-ambassador-says-russian-platoon-surrendered-to-ukrainian
I was wondering what the people in the Russian military were going through with this.
So, at least some of them, had no idea what their mission was. Their media keeps them mis-informed and un-informed.
msongs
(67,413 posts)mysteryowl
(7,390 posts)I believe they did not know.
Traildogbob
(8,748 posts)Imagine the ONLY info you ever got was Fox, Alex Jones and Steve Bannon. Look how many weak minded people here bought it all, with tons of opposing media outlets available. A Nation of Jim Joness believing it all. Willing to die and take their kids with them.
mysteryowl
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SmittyWerben
(823 posts)I was on the ground during the beginning of the Gulf war in 1991. We had no idea what was going on outside our battalion area of responsibility. Today there are more options and certainly more in the towns of Ukraine, but these troops may not have been told at all what they were doing beyond military exercises.
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)what Putin would do, if suddenly, large numbers of his troops deserted because of Putin's horrific invasion.
They go across the border on a military maneuver, throw down their weapons, take off their uniforms, and just keep walking into Ukraine.........
They should agree to fight with the Ukrainian army against the Russians. Doubt it will happen though.
Lovie777
(12,278 posts)COL Mustard
(5,905 posts)I doubt they'll desert or anything, because they ARE a long way from home, but I also doubt if they will be very enthusiastic about their mission. This ain't WWII and Zelenskyy ain't the Nazis no matter what Pootin says.
Doremus
(7,261 posts)The one photo I saw of a burned out Russian tank had the training manual of a new recruit on the ground.
COL Mustard
(5,905 posts)Conscripts were drafted for two year terms and there were two drafts a year. The first six months you were better off in prison. The second year you were like the warden.
Their reenlistment officers have a very hard job. Nobody wants to stay in that kind of Army (well, very few).
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)As there is among the Russian populace. It is how they cope with their misery.
dchill
(38,502 posts)MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)mainer
(12,022 posts)If they go back to Russia, theyre toast.
mysteryowl
(7,390 posts)tanyev
(42,566 posts)padah513
(2,503 posts)And I certainly hope it is
mysteryowl
(7,390 posts)2naSalit
(86,646 posts)texasfiddler
(1,990 posts)I think the Ukranian people have the resolve. Can Russian Propaganda sustain the resolve of its forces on the ground? That will be the ultimate question.
mysteryowl
(7,390 posts)I heard on the radio a Ukrainian politician being interviewed. He said he is not a solider, but has an AK47 and will use it to defend his family and country.
wnylib
(21,486 posts)are groups of Ukranians who have been training for uprisings if Russia gains control of the country.
mysteryowl
(7,390 posts)summer_in_TX
(2,739 posts)She was on Stephen Colbert's show tonight and says that our military have taken lessons learned by how Iraqis resisted the U.S. after our invasion and ensured that Ukrainians were trained in the successful tactics that made our continuing occupation of Iraq untenable.
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Doremus
(7,261 posts)Russian military should lay down their weapons and surrender. What would the rich old fucks do then?
Bev54
(10,053 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)Lonestarblue
(10,011 posts)that they do not want to fight Russia or Russian soldiers and ask then to throw down their arms. Its Putins war, and no one elses.
BlueWavePsych
(2,635 posts)blue-wave
(4,356 posts)Putin has made a huge mistake with this coldly calculated war. It's not going well on the battlefronts either. When the bodybags come home to Russia, people will be outraged.
And that closeness between the Russian and Ukrainian peoples Putin tried twisting into something distorted, ultimately it truly means Russians and Ukrainians don't want to kill each other. We may see more defections from the Russian military.
bucolic_frolic
(43,178 posts)is that the military came around to their side. Isn't this a development.
dchill
(38,502 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)yes indeed
paleotn
(17,931 posts)patphil
(6,182 posts)mysteryowl
(7,390 posts)patphil
(6,182 posts)IronLionZion
(45,451 posts)Many Americans enlisted after 9/11 thinking they would be fighting terrorism not invade a completely unrelated country.
EndlessWire
(6,537 posts)Free vodka, excellent Lithuanian rum, free pizza, and a stipend to go with a plot of land. Welcome to Ukraine, Bros!
SammyBrown
(22 posts)I pray they are not faking.
Slammer
(714 posts)MSNBC this evening reported that a downed Russian flier said he had no idea which country he was flying sorties against. (I find that more difficult to believe of pilots than infantry units. But I suppose it's possible they thought they were going against separatists in Chechnya or Muslims in Georgia.)
And he also reported that his unit had no food.
Of course that's probably coming through Ukrainian sources, at best, even if the pilot was telling the truth. But it's still interesting.
I'd wondered how easily Russia was feeding its troops when none of them were in their regular spots.