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demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:16 PM Feb 2022

Manchin joins with Senate GOP to block bill guaranteeing abortion access

Source: The Hill

Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin (W.Va.) joined with Senate Republicans on Monday night to oppose legislation codifying the right to an abortion.

Senators voted 46-48 to move the bill toward a debate on the Senate floor, falling short of the three-fifths vote needed to move it forward.

The bill, which passed the House last year, enshrines the right to an abortion and pushes back against state-level restrictions. The Senate’s failed vote comes as the Supreme Court is weighing a case that would curb Roe vs. Wade.

“Sadly it looks like the Supreme Court will limit abortion rights on the coming months. That’s why the bill is essential,” Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/596223-manchin-joins-with-senate-gop-to-block-bill-guaranteeing-abortion-access

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Manchin joins with Senate GOP to block bill guaranteeing abortion access (Original Post) demmiblue Feb 2022 OP
Correction. Joe Manchin joins the Russians to block bill ffr Feb 2022 #1
The Putin money came to him via McConnell. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #7
Supposedly many of the closed WV coal mines were bought up by Russians 10 years ago. mackdaddy Feb 2022 #19
With the way Manchin has been acting, probably multiple sources of Russian money. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Mary in S. Carolina Mar 2022 #38
sputnik joe? yaesu Mar 2022 #50
This will be my new name for him. Thanks! Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #51
😃 yaesu Mar 2022 #52
Just leave the party FCS. You are no Dem. Evolve Dammit Feb 2022 #2
You do understand we need him for the majority, and based on his past he will insure that Ketanji JohnSJ Feb 2022 #14
You do understand he's an phony RW asshole? BradAllison Feb 2022 #22
So you think it is a good idea for him to switch parties? JohnSJ Feb 2022 #23
Well, he endorsed Susan Collins in 2020. BradAllison Feb 2022 #29
Of course not, but at this point in time we need him. If we gain at least two additional seats JohnSJ Feb 2022 #30
If he switched parties, Mitch McConnell would again be Senate majority leader. n/t thesquanderer Mar 2022 #37
I've followed politics since 1983 BradAllison Mar 2022 #40
Agreed inthewind21 Mar 2022 #53
He's already switched parties; slightlv Feb 2022 #32
Yes, he's a phony, yes he voted with the gqp. But without him we lose control of the senate PortTack Feb 2022 #27
You think inthewind21 Mar 2022 #54
✓+ live love laugh Mar 2022 #56
He has done plenty of damage to a good agenda. Piss poor Dem IMHO. I'm aware of your point Evolve Dammit Mar 2022 #43
He'd become a nobody if he switched. All this attention he's getting would disappear. CrispyQ Mar 2022 #48
Grabbing a headline SallyHemmings Feb 2022 #3
This is just messed up.......he doesn't believe in the right to choice and privacy.... turbinetree Feb 2022 #4
Just as I knew he would! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2022 #5
WV needs help. He isn't helping. twodogsbarking Feb 2022 #6
Post removed Post removed Feb 2022 #8
hire a good u-boat !! monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #39
How did Casey (Dem PA) vote? Polybius Feb 2022 #9
There were two Democrats so vote against this, Casey was one of them, and Manchin the other JohnSJ Feb 2022 #25
This fucking guy again... IngridsLittleAngel Feb 2022 #10
I am so fucking sick piddyprints Feb 2022 #11
Exactly. niyad Mar 2022 #34
I take some solace that they are going on record as being against the wishes of the American public. Gore1FL Feb 2022 #12
If the vote was 46 to 48, TomSlick Feb 2022 #13
Exactly. We know the Senator from New Mexico was recovering from a stroke, so they should JohnSJ Feb 2022 #15
The three who didn't vote: Lujan, Feinstein and Warnock. demmiblue Mar 2022 #41
Wtf SunImp Mar 2022 #57
That POS sakabatou Feb 2022 #16
He hasn't been getting attention vercetti2021 Feb 2022 #17
+1 Crowman2009 Feb 2022 #26
he's not a Democrat. barbtries Feb 2022 #18
Quick! Someone remind me that Manchin is a Democrat Orrex Feb 2022 #21
Can we apply economic sanctions to Manchin? BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #24
sugar in his Maserati's gas tank.... Evolve Dammit Mar 2022 #44
"...GOP Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) voted against advancing the Demo riversedge Feb 2022 #28
Murkowski needs some schooling. tonekat Feb 2022 #33
60 votes are needed Polybius Mar 2022 #46
That's right ladies! Keep popping them out. But don't you fucking dare Carlitos Brigante Feb 2022 #31
____ LudwigPastorius Mar 2022 #35
Post removed Post removed Mar 2022 #36
B-b-b-b-but we need Manchin! KPN Mar 2022 #42
Yep. There they go again. Protecting "freedom" by restricting ours. Vinca Mar 2022 #45
Manchinskaya and the RePutincan fascists strike again. Roisin Ni Fiachra Mar 2022 #47
Jesus... GB_RN Mar 2022 #49
Is he gong to vote against KBJ too? Fuck that piece of shit. onecaliberal Mar 2022 #55

Irish_Dem

(46,981 posts)
7. The Putin money came to him via McConnell.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:34 PM
Feb 2022

That has been my theory for a long time now.

When McConnell lost Georgia senate races, he went into action on two sitting senators.

mackdaddy

(1,526 posts)
19. Supposedly many of the closed WV coal mines were bought up by Russians 10 years ago.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:11 PM
Feb 2022

My family is from WV, and we were back in southern WV in coal country.

The local family were talking about how many of the coal mines and rights had been bought up by Russian oligarchs, and some were being reopened.

I do not have any other direct links, but this makes sense with Manchins coal money sources. Also Trump digs coal campaign, if it were tied to Russian money.

Irish_Dem

(46,981 posts)
20. With the way Manchin has been acting, probably multiple sources of Russian money.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:13 PM
Feb 2022

He is all in.

Thanks for the information. I didn't know about the Russian/WVa mine connections.

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #20)

JohnSJ

(92,180 posts)
14. You do understand we need him for the majority, and based on his past he will insure that Ketanji
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:02 PM
Feb 2022

Brown Jackson nomination succeeds

Let’s cut our nose off to spite our face

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
22. You do understand he's an phony RW asshole?
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:34 PM
Feb 2022

Just checking, maybe the issue doesn't concern you at all, I suppose.

Roe V Wade is going soon and he's fine with it anyway.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
29. Well, he endorsed Susan Collins in 2020.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:12 PM
Feb 2022

I know the last time I asked you this, you literally said you "did not care".

Do you think that was helpful? It was sure helpful to him.

He wants to keep his power over us. He's very effective at being a useful idiot to the GOP.


JohnSJ

(92,180 posts)
30. Of course not, but at this point in time we need him. If we gain at least two additional seats
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:29 PM
Feb 2022

in the midterms, we can tell him to buzz off

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
40. I've followed politics since 1983
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 12:22 AM
Mar 2022

I don't need the endless instruction from the "acktuallies" who are content with his behavior about how this dirtbag has made himself so powerful. He'd otherwise be a useless turd on this side of the bowl of one of the poorest states in the US.

Try to defend him when he won't endorse Tim Ryan or the DEM nominee from PA. Because he won't and why would he?

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
53. Agreed
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 02:43 PM
Mar 2022

Those who defend Manchin because "we need him to keep control of the senate" clearly haven't the slightest clue that we currently DO NOT have control of the senate BECAUSE of Manchin. What should be obvious as the nose on your face seems to elude some. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

slightlv

(2,787 posts)
32. He's already switched parties;
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:41 PM
Feb 2022

he just hasn't announced it formally yet. I think it's as obvious as a slap to the face. Frankly, yes... we may need him to hold on to the "majority" for all the good that's doing us this year, but I hope he loses his next election. Even with a Republican in his seat, at least we'd know where he stands... and not be holding out ever decreasing hope on a lost cause.

PortTack

(32,757 posts)
27. Yes, he's a phony, yes he voted with the gqp. But without him we lose control of the senate
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:50 PM
Feb 2022

Nothing is worth that. If a 6-3 conservative court is bad, imagine a 7-2, because that is what it will be

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
54. You think
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 02:50 PM
Mar 2022

We NOW have control of the senate? We have a number on paper. That's it? Or is there some secret knowledge you have of all those Biden initiatives flying out of the senate and passed into law? Do tell, what has the majority been able to pass through the senate and what is just sitting there rotting? And who prevented passage? I'll wait. If this is what you call control of the senate, it doesn't really matter who the Senator of WV is does it.

CrispyQ

(36,460 posts)
48. He'd become a nobody if he switched. All this attention he's getting would disappear.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 10:52 AM
Mar 2022

Also, I suspect he gets more right-wing money being on our side than if he switched.

Until we get money out of our electoral process, nothing will change. And the ones who can legislate the change we need, are the very ones who benefit from the current system. What a clusterfuck.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
4. This is just messed up.......he doesn't believe in the right to choice and privacy....
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:26 PM
Feb 2022

and is he up for re-election......in three more years.....what is your vote on the new justice, this vote is telling......

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Polybius

(15,390 posts)
9. How did Casey (Dem PA) vote?
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:52 PM
Feb 2022

I keep hearing that he is anti-abortion rights, but I don't see it like I did with his father.

JohnSJ

(92,180 posts)
25. There were two Democrats so vote against this, Casey was one of them, and Manchin the other
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:48 PM
Feb 2022

“ Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania the only Democrats not to explicitly endorse it. Casey voted to allow debate, which he said in advance he would do. Republican Senators Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Susan Collins of Maine, who have a record of supporting abortion rights, introduced an amendment ahead of the vote that would still codify Roe and would remove portions of the WHPA that they found too broad. In the end, though, they both voted against the bill.”


https://time.com/6152473/abortion-roe-v-wade-democrats/

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
10. This fucking guy again...
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:52 PM
Feb 2022

Just imagine how many more great things Biden could be doing if it wasn't for this twit, and Sinema, who should lose her boot-wearing privileges.

Of course, the article says how he "joined with Senate Republicans." Like he is ever joined with Senate Democrats on anything. Joining with Republicans is what he always does. "Manchin Joins Republicans" is no headline. "Manchin Joins Democrats" would be. You know, like how no one cares about "Dog Bites Man", but "Man Bites Dog" would grab a lot of attention.

Thanks for nothing... as usual, Manchin.

piddyprints

(14,642 posts)
11. I am so fucking sick
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:54 PM
Feb 2022

Of people who have never had a uterus making laws to punish those who do!!!!

Dem or repuke, if you’re not the one who’s pregnant, it’s just not your concern! If you’re not the one wanting to terminate a pregnancy, go take a hike! When will the majority of this country get it??

Gore1FL

(21,129 posts)
12. I take some solace that they are going on record as being against the wishes of the American public.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 09:56 PM
Feb 2022

We'll still win this vote. It just won't be today.

JohnSJ

(92,180 posts)
15. Exactly. We know the Senator from New Mexico was recovering from a stroke, so they should
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:04 PM
Feb 2022

have at least waited until he cane back

demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
41. The three who didn't vote: Lujan, Feinstein and Warnock.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 08:13 AM
Mar 2022

Obviously, I understand why Lujan and Feinstein weren't present, but Warnock?





vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
17. He hasn't been getting attention
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:07 PM
Feb 2022

He can go fuck his fuckin self. Putin owned piece of shit. Go ahead and report me. He isnt a fucking Democrat. This place needs to quit acting like he is. Stop fucking pretending

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
18. he's not a Democrat.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:08 PM
Feb 2022

this is bullshit. he must have some delusions of grandeur or a power fixation or something, to be so willing to fuck up the agenda for his "own" party so consistently. what a hateful fuck he is.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
21. Quick! Someone remind me that Manchin is a Democrat
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:31 PM
Feb 2022

Also, fuck Mitt Romney right in his Brigham-Young. I don't want to hear any more bullshit about how he's defying the will of the GOP with his meaningless soundbytes that ultimately amount to nothing.

Oh, Mitt grabbed the mike? Fuck him. Until he votes like an American Representative rather than a thinly-disguised Hard-Right operative, I don't want to hear another fucking word out of him. Let him bounce up and down in his car elevator, but beyond that he can go fuck himself along with the other lockstep KKKonservatives.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
24. Can we apply economic sanctions to Manchin?
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 10:39 PM
Feb 2022

Freeze his accounts, sink his boat, and make Russia his only safe haven.

riversedge

(70,200 posts)
28. "...GOP Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) voted against advancing the Demo
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:10 PM
Feb 2022

Does anyone know how many votes would be needed just to pass a straight bill to codify Roe v. wade>>>>???


https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/596223-manchin-joins-with-senate-gop-to-block-bill-guaranteeing-abortion-access


..............GOP Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) voted against advancing the Democratic bill but introduced a proposal shortly before the vote to codify Roe vs. Wade.

“I have long supported a woman’s right to choose, but my position is not without limits, and this partisan Women’s Health Protection Act simply goes too far. It would broadly supersede state laws and infringe on Americans’ religious freedoms,” Murkowski said.

“The fact that my choice is between this bill, or nothing at all, shows how insincere Majority Leader Schumer is about protecting women’s rights. Failing to conduct any outreach and reducing this important issue to nothing more than a designed-to-fail show vote is a disservice to women across America,” she added.

tonekat

(1,814 posts)
33. Murkowski needs some schooling.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:43 PM
Feb 2022

“I have long supported a woman’s right to choose, but my position is not without limits, and this partisan Women’s Health Protection Act simply goes too far. It would broadly supersede state laws and infringe on Americans’ religious freedoms,” Murkowski said.

Hey, how about my freedom from your religion?

The religious can't be allowed to make the rest of us adhere to their beliefs!

Religion infringes on my freedoms.

Carlitos Brigante

(26,500 posts)
31. That's right ladies! Keep popping them out. But don't you fucking dare
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 11:39 PM
Feb 2022

ask for a penny if you loose your job. What a bag of shit.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
45. Yep. There they go again. Protecting "freedom" by restricting ours.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 08:44 AM
Mar 2022

If every woman in this country doesn't show up at the polls to vote the uterus police out, then we'll deserve to be forced to keep churning kids out whether we want them or not.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
47. Manchinskaya and the RePutincan fascists strike again.
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 10:11 AM
Mar 2022

The American fascists are struggling mightily every day to take control over all our bodies, starting with women and LGBT+.

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