Russia invasion of Ukraine: Northern Ireland-built NLAW anti-tank missiles may have halted dreaded 4
Source: News Letter
Ireland-built NLAW anti-tank missiles may have halted dreaded 40-mile-long-convoy, says ex-NATO Colonel
Mr Ingram, whose job at NATO was to game out just the type of Russian aggression now seen in Ukraine, said there were no reports of the convoy moving on Wednesday.
Therefore if it is static something is stopping it maneuvering forward, he told the News Letter. You dont put a convoy down a route unless it has something to do. And you certainly dont have vehicles backed up against each other the way you have seen in some of the pictures.
I have seen reports this morning on one of the routes ... at the front end of a convoy... lots of destroyed Russian armoured vehicles. That then provides a block and everything stacks up behind it.
Something is fixing the front of the convoy and its ability to manoeuvre, he says.
Read more: https://www.newsletter.co.uk/business/ni-built-missiles-may-have-halted-40-mile-long-russian-convoy-3594143
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)burrowowl
(17,606 posts)oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)The 3.5-mile-long convoy moved 40 miles unobstructed and amassed north of Kyiv at the Abramov airport. My guess, they expect to be resupplied by air there. They won't be supplied by land if just a couple of bridges are blown up. Part of this force tried to advance into the city and that is where they encountered this attack.
Russian military convoy stretches over 17 miles north of Kiev.
This app shows their size and where they are located:
Link to tweet
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)that an intelligence firm had evidence showing that the 40 mile convoy actually consisted of separated segments.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)Every major media source continues to report it without any corrections. I'm starting to think they're not wrong.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)We do have photos of the 3.5-mile-long convoy, then we have photos of them moving towards Kiev and stretched out. What's so difficult to understand about that?
Jerry2144
(2,046 posts)Is 211,200 feet. If each vehicle takes up about 100 feet, then thats about 2,000 vehicles. And with them stacked up 2 or three wide, that would be about 5000 vehicles. I didnt count, but there is no way there could be that many vehicles, more like a couple hundred. Four or five miles total length sense more believable. Still a formidable convoy to face. Good think theyre not facing fearless fighters like the YAll Qaida. Because the shitted drawers would raise quite a stench.
Likely the vehicles are going to become twisted metal soon, if they are stopped like that
oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)Especially the dark one. All the pointing and clicking doesn't show me a pic that's obvious. And I'm not on twitter so it wouldn't let me go anywhere else
Maybe its like others have said; several convoys totaling 40mi. Regardless of the actual size it Sure makes a nice target. Sure wish the Ukrainians knew how to fly an A-10
EndlessWire
(6,377 posts)is a professional satellite company which supplies such images. They are in Colorado, so there is nothing Russia can do to stop the reporting. I went there because I wanted to know how many times a day their satellite passes over Ukraine.
They have many images available to view. They are high quality. The only thing left is the analysis. You can bet they are supplying intel to those who need it. I tend to believe them if they say the column is 40 miles long. There would be other images that would create a panorama which would show all the vehicles, but we are only seeing disjointed individual images. So, it is hard to estimate what's on the highway, but individual trucks and equipment could be hand counted. They probably also have software that can analyze the image.
reACTIONary
(5,749 posts)... is deliberately degraded. It is illegal to release full resolution (and maybe full spectrum) imagery. So the officials and annalists who are making these assessments public have more information about what is on the ground than we do.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)One of their big customers is Google Earth. In this case, they released the images in near real time. Google Earth has some very high resolution imagery now in many parts of the world and most urban locations where there is high demand.
reACTIONary
(5,749 posts).... cannot exceed a legally specified resolution and may be subject to other national security restrictions. So, no matter what the source, commercial or otherwise, the imagery on Google or whatever is never going to be as good as the imagery available to intelligence analysts and public officials.
You may or may not be right about the length and composition of this convoy, but Google earth isn't good enough to definitively discredit official sources. You just can't see what they can see.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)I spend months at a time viewing satellite imagery doing archaeological surveying. Lots more fun than looking for tanks.
Free sources: https://eos.com/blog/free-satellite-imagery-sources/
Bundle or pan-sharpened imagery is provided in GeoTIFF format with the resolution between 0,3m to 1.5m from the following satellites: SIIS (KOMPSAT 2/3/3-A), AirBus (Pleiades 1a/1b, SPOT 5/ 6/7), SpaceWill (SuperView 1a/1b/1c/1d, Gaofen 1/2, -Ziyuan 3), 21AT (TripleSat 1/2/3).
reACTIONary
(5,749 posts)... an interesting archeological "imaging" activity that used petroleum industry sonar surveys to map a submerged Mesolithic landscape called Doggerland.
https://www.archaeology.org/issues/461-2203/letter-from/10357-doggerland-mesolithic-submerged-landscape
Pretty interesting!
ffr
(22,649 posts)in a futile waste of fuel. The purpose of the convoy is to aggressively take and occupy Kyiv. Anything done to frustrate that effort is a win.
weissmam
(905 posts)Tanks sink in mud
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Putin defeated by global warming
uncle ray
(3,153 posts)i've read, and photos and video back it up, that vehicles are getting stuck because the tires are dry rotted from sitting in the sun unused, so when they try to air down to drive off road, the tires are literally disintegrating with use.
onetexan
(12,994 posts)reporting error that even the big networks have been making.
obamanut2012
(25,911 posts)People need to quit reporting this as fact. It was debunked yesterday.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Then please inform ABC, NBC, CBS, etc.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-military-convoy-north-kyiv-stretches-40-miles-maxar-2022-03-01/
The menacing 40-mile-long Russian military vehicle convoy bearing down on Kyiv appears to have stalled
https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-military-convoy-bearing-down-on-kyiv-appears-stalled-2022-3
Satellite imagery from Monday shows part of a Russian military convoy, stretching approximately 40 miles, on a road heading towards Ukraines capital, Kyiv
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/01/world/europe/russian-convoy-ukraine.html
Satellite images show 40-mile convoy of Russian forces bearing down on Kyiv
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/01/russia-ukraine-40-mile-convoy/
Russia's 40-mile convoy has stalled on its way to Kyiv, a U.S. official says
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/01/1083733700/russias-40-mile-convoy-has-stalled-on-its-way-to-kyiv-a-u-s-official-says
Russia's 40-Mile Long Tank Convoy Closes In on Kyiv as Bombing Intensifies in Kharkiv
https://time.com/6152916/russia-convoy-kyiv/
Satellite images show 40-mile-long Russian convoy closing in on Kyiv
https://www.axios.com/satellite-images-0-mile-long-russian-convoy-near-kyiv-4f0b3318-e2ee-4693-b7bf-22a2d1c8854b.html
Oh, and bye
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)stretching over that distance, but I can't seem to find a web story about this.
DemocraticPatriot
(4,170 posts)csziggy
(34,120 posts)I posted a link earlier to the Military times story with the correct information:
"According to a release from Maxar, the convoy extends for more than 3.25 miles and is moving in the direction of Kyiv, which is about 40 miles from the photographed location."
https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/ukraine/2022/02/27/russian-military-convoy-traveling-toward-kyiv-satellite-images-show/
EndlessWire
(6,377 posts)EndlessWire
(6,377 posts)These are really clear, good images of the convoy headed that way.
Happy Hoosier
(7,081 posts)That will make it very hard for the Russians. They can't advance and they likely can't clear the blockages without getting attacked.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)... a long way from supplies and reinforcements. Ukraine has limited retaliatory capacity and they have to be strategic about using their defensive munitions.
onetexan
(12,994 posts)HUAJIAO
(2,362 posts)Blast those fuckers !!!
IronLionZion
(45,261 posts)Next Generation Light Anti-tank Weapon
Thales is Northern Ireland. Saab is Sweden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBT_LAW
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)IronLionZion
(45,261 posts)sl8
(13,584 posts)The NLAW is a Swedish/UK missile.
Weapons produced at the Troy facility include the Javelin, the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) missile, the Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile (JASSM) and other air-to-ground missiles, according to their website.
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AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)but the Javelin missiles have been updated:
https://www.defensenews.com/2020/05/06/deadlier-f-model-javelin-antitank-missile-rolls-into-production/
sl8
(13,584 posts)Interesting article on the new Javelin, thanks.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)gab13by13
(20,867 posts)of anti-tank missiles, send them all.
Karadeniz
(22,279 posts)COL Mustard
(5,783 posts)As an Irish car bomb?
(Note - you don't want to order that, or a Black and Tan, in a pub in Ireland. They'll serve it to you, but it's in poor taste to order either.)
AZLD4Candidate
(5,567 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,076 posts)mwooldri
(10,291 posts)... and the NLAW won...
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,081 posts)Javelins, NLAWs and similar systems make tanks a highly specialized weapon.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Slammer
(714 posts)An image of part of that 40 mile long column taken near Bucha in the Kyiv Oblast. (I think that's close to the outer suburbs of Kyiv?)
Deminpenn
(15,246 posts)He pointed out that the way the convoy is stacked together, there's no room to turn around and go the other way if needed. The soft ground, going off road is getting problematic also.