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muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 06:14 AM Mar 2022

Duma passes law giving 15-year prison sentences for spreading 'false information' about military

Source: The Independent

Russia has passed a new law meaning citizens who spread what it described as "fake" information about the military can be jailed for up to 15 years.
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Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, is continuing to crack down on protesters taking to the streets to demonstrate against the conflict, which entered its ninth day on Friday.

Meanwhile, schools and media organisations have been ordered not to describe the invasion as a "war". Several outlets were shut down following negative coverage of the fighting.
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Earlier this week, Mr Putin ordered the shut down of Russia’s only independent TV channel and a liberal radio station as the president ramped up efforts to censor coverage of the war, leaving citizens with propaganda from state-run outlets as their only source of information.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-war-latest-russia-law-b2028440.html



(full headline 'Russian Duma ...' wouldn't fit)

And of course, what is "false information" now in Russia is what reflects badly on Putin.
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Duma passes law giving 15-year prison sentences for spreading 'false information' about military (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Mar 2022 OP
sadly I have a friend from Russia who lives in Spain... lapfog_1 Mar 2022 #1
So no truthful media left in Russia SouthernDem4ever Mar 2022 #2
old Soviet-era joke about the media Maeve Mar 2022 #6
She may also have family back home who would be endangered if she said the quiet part COL Mustard Mar 2022 #8
They are frightened of their own people. C_U_L8R Mar 2022 #3
But it will still take a few at the top to act. Lonestarblue Mar 2022 #4
It takes time. And then it happens overnight. C_U_L8R Mar 2022 #5
Romania happened almost overnight AZLD4Candidate Mar 2022 #19
Savvy? Smart? Genius? Harker Mar 2022 #7
I like your descriptors better COL Mustard Mar 2022 #9
When Trumpsky praises another, he's merely congratulating himself Harker Mar 2022 #12
Agent Orange is really Mr. Superlative when he describes himself. Classic narcissistic psychopath AZLD4Candidate Mar 2022 #20
Exactly. Harker Mar 2022 #21
Same as it ever was BeyondGeography Mar 2022 #10
Put it out there that Putin is spreading false information about the military. LiberalFighter Mar 2022 #11
They've arrested a lot of protestors, even children IronLionZion Mar 2022 #13
Isn't the DUMA like a Rethug Controlled State Legislature? Tommymac Mar 2022 #14
They do exactly what Putin tells them to do.... paleotn Mar 2022 #26
this is the puppet criminal regime our repugs here would like to create samsingh Mar 2022 #15
The MAGAtt crowd... Wuddles440 Mar 2022 #18
Cracking down on his people for saying the word "war." ancianita Mar 2022 #16
I expect a sternly worded statement from Edward Snowden! Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #17
BBC is no longer broadcasting from Moscow. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #22
Putin taking cues from NK sakabatou Mar 2022 #23
Putrid's ego can't handle the competition of truth. 58Sunliner Mar 2022 #24
That's so cute. They think they'll be around in 15 years to enforce it. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #25
Why does the Duma exist? paleotn Mar 2022 #27

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
1. sadly I have a friend from Russia who lives in Spain...
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 06:32 AM
Mar 2022

she doesn't like the war... but she has bought into the whole Russian propaganda story.

Claims that I only see what US media wants me to see (and the internet is controlled too)/

She repeated the whole "Ukraine is run by Nazis" bullshit.

I didn't even push back on all this... all I said was that I was sad.

I think she knows someplace deep down that she is being lied to but she can't bring herself to admit it. She cut me off with a "I don't want to talk about it"

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
6. old Soviet-era joke about the media
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 08:18 AM
Mar 2022

The two main ones were Pravda (Truth) and Izvestia (News)--the saying was there is no izvestia in Pravda and no pravda in Izvestia; no news in Pravda, no truth in Izvestia.

COL Mustard

(5,906 posts)
8. She may also have family back home who would be endangered if she said the quiet part
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 08:45 AM
Mar 2022

Out loud. Don't bring it up with her. Just my advice...free, so perhaps worth what you paid for it!

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
4. But it will still take a few at the top to act.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 08:02 AM
Mar 2022

Russia is a police state ruled by fear. Average citizens will be afraid to act until there is much greater mass. What happened in Belarus would be a warning to them. Lukashenko was voted out but refused to leave. Putin sent police to help him torture and imprison thousands. I doubt anyone can reason with Putin because he doesn’t care what happens to anyone else. It will have to be a brave person willing to take him—and his personal guards—on.

Harker

(14,024 posts)
12. When Trumpsky praises another, he's merely congratulating himself
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 09:26 AM
Mar 2022

for his brilliance in seeing the "admirable" qualities he thinks he has. He has all the "best" adjectives.

IronLionZion

(45,453 posts)
13. They've arrested a lot of protestors, even children
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 09:27 AM
Mar 2022

the children get less prison time than adults but still no first amendment in Russia.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
14. Isn't the DUMA like a Rethug Controlled State Legislature?
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 09:39 AM
Mar 2022

Bought and paid for by the Oligarchs and does not represent the People it pretends to protect?

Just sayin'



paleotn

(17,931 posts)
26. They do exactly what Putin tells them to do....
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 05:19 PM
Mar 2022

or risk being suicided. No different than the Soviet days.

Wuddles440

(1,123 posts)
18. The MAGAtt crowd...
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 11:43 AM
Mar 2022

is literally salivating at the prospect of such a police state and they were well on their way until the Biden hiccup temporarily derailed their plans. Despite this minor setback, they were not deterred and have maintained their relentless campaign for absolute control.

58Sunliner

(4,386 posts)
24. Putrid's ego can't handle the competition of truth.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 03:43 PM
Mar 2022

Think about that for a minute, someone would be so enraged and/or threatened by a differing viewpoint, that they would go to such extremes. Talk about a sick piece of work. The trains and flights were supposedly full last night from Russians escaping. Scary shit. Martial law in Russia is draconian.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
27. Why does the Duma exist?
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 05:28 PM
Mar 2022

Why must brutal dictators put on such ridiculous pretenses? No one believes Russia's Duma, NK's Supreme Peoples Assembly or China's National Peoples Congress are anything but cheap facades. Few in those countries buy the bullshit. A failed attempt at legitimacy I suppose.

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