Russia will stop 'in a moment' if Ukraine meets terms - Kremlin

[JudyM]

Source: Reuters

Russia has told Ukraine it is ready to halt military operations "in a moment" if Kyiv meets a list of conditions, the Kremlin spokesman said on Monday.

Dmitry Peskov said Moscow was demanding that Ukraine cease military action, change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory, and recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states. It was the most explicit Russian statement so far of the terms it wants to impose on Ukraine to halt what it calls its "special military operation", now in its 12th day.
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But the Kremlin spokesman insisted Russia was not seeking to make any further territorial claims on Ukraine and said it was "not true" that it was demanding Kyiv be handed over.
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The outlining of Russia's demands came as delegations from Russia and Ukraine prepared to meet on Monday for a third round of talks aimed at ending Russia’s war against Ukraine.
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"For the rest. Ukraine is an independent state that will live as it wants, but under conditions of neutrality."

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/kremlin-says-russian-military-action-will-stop-moment-if-ukraine-meets-2022-03-07/

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Via telephone interview with Reuters. Worth checking out the rest of the story at the link, including their “concern” about NATO’s increasing involvement with Ukraine, militarization, and the purported justification of Donetsk and Lugansk being threatened.

[PortTack]

1. If they accept that, they should rebuild and then join NATO. Putin never keeps his promises

Why should the Ukrainians

Putin’s knows he is losing

[sinkingfeeling]

17. Putin's demand for Ukraine neutrality means no NATO ever.

[PortTack]

18. Again..as I said. Russia doesn't honor their promises..why should Ukraine

Two can play that game!

[onetexan]

33. Precisely. Holding my middle finger out to Putin & his murderous comrades.

[Bev54]

2. Yeah, they are all bullshit and no substance. The corridors the Russians claim are open

for refugees to flee mostly go to Russia or Belarus. Ukraine just needs to keep telling Russia to go fuck themselves.

[bucolic_frolic]

3. Backpeddling loaded with lies

But it does mean they understand they are in a fight they will never win. Never.

[Botany]

4. Snake Island answer to Russia, "Fuck You get out of our country."

[trusty elf]

32. ...

[lapfog_1]

5. don't forget the addition of a new government position

that of premier... who would actually run the country. Zelenskyy would be a ceremonial president. The Russians would control who gets that job.

[Biophilic]

29. Yeah, this is a pretty major 'minor' issue. Russia wins control of Ukraine, just what they want.

[multigraincracker]

6. Reparations for damages

a must.

[COL Mustard]

49. From the Russian POV

More like "you pay to clean up what you made us do".

[EX500rider]

7. Did they drop the Ukraine must disarm stipulation?

I'm sure that one wasn't going to fly

[bluestarone]

8. Maybe a sign that pooty is getting some heat from his BILLIONAIRS?

I leave it to Ukraine's Government, BUT i say NO WAY! DO NOT trust them.

[L. Coyote]

9. The answer is obvious, "Russia, go fuck yourselves."

[DarthDem]

10. Well, now we know they think they're losing

If those are really their demands - not including Kyiv - then they are really dealing from a position of considerable weakness. Not that Ukraine should take those terms, but they're far less sweeping than they could be. Not surprising, really.

[FarPoint]

11. Putin needs to save face....

He has made a total mess of everything ....blood really on his hands this time...his economy was already in the toilet and his military was a " BLUFF" ...yet he has nuclear bombs...

I foresee a negotiated agreement with some sanctions lifted....He may end up with a small piece of northeast Ukraine, say Dombas ( spelling off on this)...and call it a win...negotiated...

I say keep tight sanctions but give a little wiggle room/ restricted ....don't give up Odessa or coastal if they can....he does want to control much of the Black Sea....

I thought this could be negotiated by June...Biden lead the pack on the sanctions that suffocates Putin...

**** In negotiations they, Ukraine need some type of defense treaty agreement so that this never happens again and US troops can help kick ass...something along those lines...

[Eyeball_Kid]

19. Without bombing, Russia has no negotiating power.

UKR should, IMO, insist on total Russian evacuation. Frozen or confiscated Russian assets should be transferred to a Ukraine rebuilding and reconstruction fund. They must pay for their destruction.

Ground to ground missile attacks will end because of UKR's enhanced military buildup. Air to ground attacks will be met by increased UKR air defenses and increased numbers of jet fighters.

Sanctions should increase and be long lasting, far beyond any terms of a cease fire. No circuit boards, no nanotechnology, no materials for digital communications. NONE- Until Russia pays for the human and material damages BEFORE any lessening of sanctions.

[FarPoint]

25. I like it...

Just not sure we can get it . I support long term strict sa nonctions .

[TygrBright]

12. I believe this is what they call "extortion", yes? n/t

[FarPoint]

14. It happens this way...Peacekeeping is a victory.

History over the centuries demonstrates this....Now, maybe we can get a stronger defense build up in Ukraine like we wanted a few years ago...


Putin is in disaster repair mode at the moment...Biden's organization of the allies must get credit...

I personally want him held up for war crimes...

[Eyeball_Kid]

13. This was ALWAYS Putin's fallback position.

He is leveraging Russian bombardments with keeping Crimea and the eastern provinces. That was his interest before the invasion. He couldn't negotiate for Ukraine's land without the invasion. He had no leverage. But now he can use his military as leverage.

It won't work. Putin will eventually come to understand it, but not without severe losses to his military and his economy. His emotions have overtaken his reasoning ability. No one is prepared to join Putin in his attempts to destroy a country. His people are increasingly upset, the oligarchs are losing their enthusiasm, and his generals are having private conversations about changing course. But Putin is still in a self-imposed bubble. He's not unlike a lot of autocrats who eventually meet their doom. He's proven that he cannot be a world player, and the rest of the world is aware of his dangerous patterns. For as long as he's in power, Russia will claim the status of pariah state.

[CentralMass]

15. Right after Putin's trial at the Hague.

[onecaliberal]

16. Fuck NO, and fuck that! Get out of Ukraine you fucking war criminal. He belongs in the Hague now.

[COL Mustard]

50. He belongs in Hell now.

Fixed it for ya. I just wish somebody from his inner circle would speed up the process.

[Ray Bruns]

20. "But the Kremlin spokesman insisted Russia was not seeking to make any further territorial claims

on Ukraine."

I think Hitler said something similar to Chamberlin a year before the german army invaded Poland.

[iluvtennis]

21. Sorry, don't believe anything coming from Putin. Let him withdraw his murdering Russian military.

Link to tweet

[Happy Hoosier]

22. Remember when Putin said he had no plans to invade Ukraine? HE LIES ALL THE TIME. NT

[sarisataka]

23. Ukraine is an independent state that will live as it wants...

As long as that matches what we want"

What's old is new again-

I have only a few statements still to make. I am grateful to Mr Chamberlain for all his efforts. I have assured him that the German people desires nothing else than peace, but I have also told him that I cannot go back behind the limits set to our patience. I have further assured him, and I repeat it here, that when this problem is solved there is for Germany no further territorial problem in Europe.

And I have further assured him that at the moment when Czechoslovakia solves her problems, that means when the Czechs have come to terms with their other minorities, and that peaceably and not through oppression, then I have no further interest in the Czech state. And that is guaranteed to him! We want no Czechs!
But in the same way I desire to state before the German people that with regard to the problem of the Sudeten Germans my patience is now at an end! I have made Mr Benes an offer which is nothing but the carrying into effect of what he himself has promised. The decision now lies in his hands: peace or war. He will either accept this offer and now at last give to the Germans their freedom or we will go and fetch this freedom for ourselves

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

45. Connor and Murphy said it well:

Now you will receive us.
We do not ask for your poor or your hungry.
We do not want your tired and sick.
It is your corrupt we claim.
It is your evil that will be sought by us.
With every breath, we shall hunt them down.
Each day, we will spill their blood till it rains down from the skies.
Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace.
These are not polite suggestions. These are codes of behavior, and those of you that ignore them will pay the dearest cost.
There are varying degrees of evil. We urge you lesser forms of filth not to push the bounds and cross over into true corruption, into our domain.
For if you do, one day you will look behind you and you will see we three. And on that day, you will reap it.
And we will send you to whatever god you wish.

[Auggy74]

24. ""Do what you want as long as it's what I want"

This doesn't sound like a great deal for Ukraine.

[SWBTATTReg]

26. Sure. Liars. Nothing else to say. Don't waste any time on these thugs, they should unilaterally

leave, period.

Then, in the World Court, Russia should be made for every dime of damages its troops inflicted on Ukraine, and the people harmed or killed, compensation should be made.

[ificandream]

27. Ukraine's strong response made Russia back down a little, I'd say

Anyone else see that?

[underpants]

30. I found Ukraine's response

[Wingus Dingus]

28. I wonder if Putin realizes that if Zelensky is killed and a puppet

regime is installed, it won't last a week? They will never be able to control these people. It just isn't going to happen.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

31. And Pooty Poop always keeps his word

[NCjack]

34. We must send more and more Stingers, Javalins, and anti-ship ballistic missiles

until Putin withdraws from all of UNK.

[Grokenstein]

35. "Lay down your arms and come out with hands up, and we will set you free!"

"We're kicking your ass and the sanctions are killing you!"
"Nyet, not true! Not according to official Russian news agency! And those who disagree are arrested so it must be true!!"

[Phoenix61]

36. Interesting as the US seriously considers blocking

Russian oil and is sending a team to Venezuela he’s interested in stopping. He never, ever saw the entire world coming together to stop him.

[BlueIdaho]

44. Sanctions need to continue for years if not decades

It’s time to teach Russia this kind of shit gives catastrophic results. I think it falls into the FAFO category.

[SunSeeker]

37. "Russian war ship, go fuck yourself!"

You don't get to pick who rules Ukraine. That is Ukraine's decision. And they chose Zelensky.

[cstanleytech]

38. Bullshit!! If that was remotely true they would have only

sent troops into those areas. Plus this is essentially Russia taking hostages in a grade school and threatening to kill the kids while holding a gun to the head of one of the children until their demands are met.
Edit: Forgot to add that the sanctions on Russia should remain in place even if the Ukrainian government agrees since this would be an agreement that was made under duress.

[AZLD4Candidate]

39. Hitler said the same thing after Rhineland, Anschluss, Sudetenland, and Czechoslovakia

Each time, he lied.

As the Three Stooges said in "You Nazty Spy"

"Peace. We want Peace!"
"Yes. A piece of this and a piece of that."

[lagomorph777]

40. Vlad's not fooling anybody. He doesn't get to dictate any terms.

He'll be lucky to have an army at all after they go through the Ukraine meat grinder.

[AntiFascist]

41. "Neutrality" probably means...

we get to keep killing your citizens, because the Russian government is that trustworthy.

[XiJung]

42. FVP!

Fuck Vladimir Putin!

[BlueIdaho]

43. Putin Blinked.

His demands - while totally unacceptable - are small potatoes compared to the bluff and bluster of a week ago. Give him another week and he may have to start accepting Ukraine’s demands including the return of Crimea with a promise of non-intervention in the future.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

46. All that, and, please, give us the entire shoreline on the Sea of Azov

We need a land route from main Russia to Crimea. Maybe give us everything east of the Dnieper. Oh, hell, just give us everything.

[samsingh]

47. You can't trust Putin's Russia or repugs

[Crataegus]

48. Sorry Vlad

Not gonna happen!
This is seriously bad for Putin.
A public admission of weakness.
Tik Tok Vlad.

[LiberalLovinLug]

51. He can't seriously think Zelenskyy would make an agreement without his forces withdrawing out first

[Brainfodder]

52. After the previous BOGUS cease?

[Sapient Donkey]

53. I do not believe Ukrainians will accept that

It’s a bit difficult to believe Putin at this time. After all, they two months claiming they had no intentions on invading.

[myohmy2]

54. watch out Ukraine...

...it's a stick-up...

"I'll quit robbing you as soon as you give me your wallet."

...putin...