Russian oligarch Vladimir Lisin comes out against Putin by calling for immediate end to Ukraine war

[Mr. Sparkle]

Source: Cityam

Oligarch Vladimir Lisin, the chairman and main shareholder of the NLMK Group, one of Russia’s largest steel makers, has called for an immediate end to the Russian war in Ukraine. The Moscow-based billionaire reportedly sent a letter to NLMK staff, which was subsequently widely shared on social networks. The steel tycoon wrote that “the death of people in Ukraine is a tragedy that is hard to justify or explain.”

In the letter, Lisin, together with the board of directors, expressed hope that the war would end soon and they urged Putin and other leaders to find a peaceful, diplomatic resolution. A spokesman for the company confirmed to various news outlets the authenticity of the letter. Lisin is not the first oligarch to go against the Russian government. Yesterday, Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska reacted to a speech by American historian Yuval Noah Harari about the Russia-Ukraine war.

He said he agreed that the war should end as soon as possible. Practically every Western governments have imposed severe sanctions on many Russian oligarchs considered to be close to the Kremlin and Vladimir Putin. However, so far Lisin has managed to avoid the sanctions.

Read more: https://www.cityam.com/man-of-steel-russian-oligarch-vladimir-lisin-comes-out-against-putin-by-calling-for-immediate-end-to-ukraine-war/

[pandr32]

1. How can Putin "find a peaceful, diplomatic resolution" with his terms?

Basically the terms are to hand over Ukraine and Russian forces will stop killing you and destroying your homes and communities.
Putin must be removed.

[erronis]

12. And Putin won't honor the terms in any case. He's going to punish the Ukranians for fighting back.

There seems to be a similar personality trait with a russian-elected ex US president. Must be something in their water....

[pandr32]

20. "similar personality trait"

I think definitely Cluster B blend with the heaviest being psychopathy.

Of course Putin wouldn't honor any terms he sets. He cannot be believed or trusted. This is why Ukrainians are all in with their resistance. The rest of the world doesn't trust Putin either. He has certainly screwed the pooch.

[doc03]

2. Has he fallen from a hotel room yet?

[Cherokee100]

28. I hope

I hope it's from the 20th floor.

[FakeNoose]

3. Pootie had better start listening to his oligarchs

This is more than just "party politics" now. This is about world peace and Pootie's destroying the balance of power. Even the oligarchs can see that World War III is bad for business.

[erronis]

15. Unless all of those super-rich are under the delusion that the world will go on for them,

without needing to worry about nuclear fallout, no serfs to deliver their poolside drinks, no reliable bodyguards/armies.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

4. Reason to be hopeful? If sanctions-divesting worked or at least helped to change South Africa

why not hope that it can achieve similar results on a larger scale. The consequences just need to be severe enough to force the change.

[DavidDvorkin]

5. It was television that changed South Africa

The government resisted allowing television for years. They could control the content of movies and who saw them (race-restricted theaters), but at that time, television was harder to control. When they finally gave in to public pressure and allowed television sets and broadcasts, with shows from Britain the US depicting integrated societies (inaccurate, but nonetheless depicted that way) the social change began, resulting in the white population voting to end Apartheid.

In Russia, by contrast, even with television and the Internet, the public is seeing only the government version of events taking place outside the country.

[Jetheels]

6. Do they not think something is up when the credit card doesn't work,

Netflix gone, Airbnb gone, etcetc, and the only thing left is McDonalds?

[DavidDvorkin]

7. Sure, but they won't blame Putin for that

If they're told it's happening because of unjustified Western attacks against Russia and its people, they'll swallow that. People are quick to rally around the flag when they think outsiders are attacking their country.

[summer_in_TX]

9. I've wondered if Lindsey Graham's call for Putin to be deposed

would be used to whip up anti-American fervor and rally loyalty to him.

[erronis]

16. I've thought Graham's stunt was to put on record that the US was willing to assassinate a foreign

leader. Not that the US hasn't sponsored such actions.

[DavidDvorkin]

21. Interesting thought.

[Justice matters.]

24. When the shelves will be empty of stuff they need to buy...

or at 5-times the price they used to pay last month, they won't care who's to blame for screwing their daily lives?

[Jetheels]

33. At that level of propaganda deception, or self deception, I'm really not sure which it is,

if Putin came into their very own house and murdered their children, they wouldn’t blame Putin.
They are not living in near complete isolation like North Korea.
Just like people in US, they choose to believe all the Fox News lies, it fits their agenda.
People need to at some point be responsible for their beliefs.

[NYC Liberal]

8. McDonald's just pulled out too:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/mcdonalds-russia-closure-ukraine-boycott-b2031340.html

[yonder]

32. Wow.

I was going to reply to ".....the only thing left is McDonalds" that that sure paints a grim, dystopian image.

When they've lost McDonalds.....they've lost.

I hope.

[soldierant]

34. McDonald's - which I read just capitulated and folded up.

[Igel]

36. And then McDonald's is shutting down in Russia. n/t

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

10. Well yah that too. Not an either-or proposition. Some news clearing getting thru to Russians or

so many would not be risking lives/ long imprisonment - obviously that can/should be ramped up as well.

[KPN]

11. I don't know about that. South Africa had television in 1976 when I was first there. Apartheid did

not end until the early 90s largely in response to economic sanctions that were strengthened after the end of the Cold War. South Africa was viewed as a stronghold against the spread of communism in southern Africa before then -- which caused us, the UK and other European nations to use only half-hearted economic sanctions until then.

Television may have played a role, but it wasn't what precipitated apartheid's demise.

[DavidDvorkin]

26. At that point, content on television was still tightly controlled by the government

It was basically a TV version of the existing radio services.

That didn't change for another ten years. That's when the important effect of TV began.

[reACTIONary]

37. Here is an interesting history of SA TV...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_in_South_Africa

[SheltieLover]

13. Kicking for visibility

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. Did Lisin & board actually call it "war"? That would be something. Not that this letter isn't. Yay!

[erronis]

18. Isn't that a 15 year sentence in the USSR - just passed law yesterday.

Can't call it a war or invasion. "Special security operation" is ok, however.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. Yes, up to 15 years. Or is it translation that uses "war" word. . . . nt

[LisaL]

29. I am going to take a wild guess that he is not currently living in Russia.

NT

[BadgerKid]

17. Can't decide if honesty or self-serving

Wouldn't a steel plant owner stand to profit handsomely rebuilding cities?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

25. It's not Russian cities destroyed & won't be Russian money rebuilding Ukraine. . . . nt

[Tadpole Raisin]

22. He should triple his guards,

-Food and drink tasted each time
-get a body double
-don’t let anyone touch you
-Stay away from windows, sidewalks, etc.
-vehicle checked for bombs including cigarette lighter if you smoke.

Revenge to Putin is just like breathing. No wonder TFG likes him. So alike.

[BradBo]

23. Been waiting for the oligarch crooks to start crying like big baby.

They all are tied to Putin and sucking the financial life out of all Russian citizens.

[calimary]

27. Since when did some of the oligarchs start growing a conscience?

I kinda doubt it’s that.

I’d bet it’s more about the bad publicity and threats to their money. Not necessarily in that order.

The oligarchs prefer to operate in the dark. They don’t like it when the spotlight turns on them and people start asking questions.

I suspect the handful of ‘em who have come forward are aiming for favorable publicity, painting themselves as good guys.

[edbermac]

30. Probably wrote that letter after checking his latest financial statement.

Or after somebody seized his yacht.

[Emile]

35. Be careful about what you are drinking buddy.

[Luizy]

38. He didn't speak out against Putin poisoning people

Because there were no sanctions hurting his pockets before.