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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 07:42 PM Mar 2022

Senate passes $107 billion overhaul of USPS, lauding mail agency's role in pandemic response

Source: Washington Post

The Senate on Tuesday approved a $107 billion financial overhaul of the long-beleaguered U.S. Postal Service, providing monetary relief for the agency that leaders say will allow it to modernize and invest in efficient service.

President Biden has signaled that he plans to sign the bill, which has already cleared the House.

The Postal Service Reform Act, which passed 79-19, provides financial flexibility for the mail agency to take on improvements that have been debated for years. Republicans have traditionally criticized the Postal Service as a poster child for government waste and incompetence, even as the agency won high marks for approval and trust from the public. During the pandemic, Democrats hailed mail workers as everyday heroes, and pushed the agency as an example of the benefits of robust government services.

But the Postal Service’s role throughout the coronavirus pandemic forced lawmakers to reach a consensus on restructuring its balance sheet, with worries that the agency could not withstand another financial shock. Nearly half of all voters cast their ballots by mail during the 2020 election .................

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/03/08/usps-senate-biden/




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Senate passes $107 billion overhaul of USPS, lauding mail agency's role in pandemic response (Original Post) L. Coyote Mar 2022 OP
Senate Passes Bipartisan Postal Service Overhaul mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2022 #1
Excellent news! FailureToCommunicate Mar 2022 #2
i hope this included doing away with pre paying for retirement healthcare yaesu Mar 2022 #3
It does include that elimination. former9thward Mar 2022 #9
That was undone back in February StClone Mar 2022 #11
Thanks, I knew it was going to be included in some legislation, lost track of which one, nt yaesu Mar 2022 #14
Thank goodness. calimary Mar 2022 #16
I never understood that retirement business.....INSANE. 🤬 a kennedy Mar 2022 #17
The 2006 Postal Reform act that everyone complains about passed both houses unanimously MichMan Mar 2022 #21
K&R orangecrush Mar 2022 #4
Finally!! paleotn Mar 2022 #5
DeJoy lobbied for this bill. former9thward Mar 2022 #7
The man who wanted to slow down mail service? paleotn Mar 2022 #8
Why Did the Repukes let this slide? Jazz Jon Mar 2022 #6
BIG, HOT, Blowback! StClone Mar 2022 #12
Dejoy is still there and doesn't seem to be leaving Tree Lady Mar 2022 #18
Wow.. how the hell did that ever Cha Mar 2022 #10
This is excellent news because that "pre-funding" bullshit will be gone! BumRushDaShow Mar 2022 #13
Which passed both the house and senate in 2006 with unanimous consent MichMan Mar 2022 #22
That is materially incorrect BumRushDaShow Mar 2022 #23
A voice vote means support was so strong, there was no need to record individual votes MichMan Mar 2022 #25
"A voice vote means support was so strong, there was no need to record individual votes" BumRushDaShow Mar 2022 #26
67% yes votes in the House and unanimous in the Senate MichMan Mar 2022 #27
"67% yes votes in the House and unanimous in the Senate" BumRushDaShow Mar 2022 #28
FINALLY the DEMS took action to help save the USPS. TxVietVet Mar 2022 #15
ImWithThem! oasis Mar 2022 #19
Great news. Magoo48 Mar 2022 #20
This was all about Union Bustin Johnny2X2X Mar 2022 #24
Good. Now will they confirm the board members to fire DeJoy? lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #29

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
1. Senate Passes Bipartisan Postal Service Overhaul
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 07:45 PM
Mar 2022
The Senate passed a post-office overhaul designed to cut billions in costs and help the service address delivery concerns. The bill now goes to President Biden.



Senate Passes Bipartisan Postal Service Overhaul
Measure designed to save billions of dollars in costs now goes to President Biden’s desk.

POLITICS

Senate Passes Bipartisan Postal Service Overhaul

Measure designed to save billions of dollars in costs now goes to President Biden’s desk

By Siobhan Hughes
https://twitter.com/siobhanehughes
Siobhan.hughes@wsj.com
March 8, 2022 6:34 pm ET

WASHINGTON—The Senate passed legislation designed to put the U.S. Postal Service on stronger financial footing and avoid a government bailout, including by repealing a requirement that it prefund retiree health benefits. The measure will next go to President Biden’s desk for his signature.

The bill passed the Senate 79-19 Tuesday, after easily clearing the House last month. The legislation is more than a decade in the making.

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yaesu

(8,020 posts)
3. i hope this included doing away with pre paying for retirement healthcare
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 07:54 PM
Mar 2022

which was a poison pill slipped in by the rethugs years ago. Also not happy with them buying gas vehicles but oh well.

former9thward

(31,949 posts)
9. It does include that elimination.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 08:20 PM
Mar 2022

But that does not help the PO cash flow. They have not made that payment since 2010. Congress has waived it every year since then so it did not affect their bottom line.

MichMan

(11,870 posts)
21. The 2006 Postal Reform act that everyone complains about passed both houses unanimously
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 08:45 AM
Mar 2022

Including yes votes by many current office holders

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
8. The man who wanted to slow down mail service?
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 08:19 PM
Mar 2022

The Trump appointee appointed to kill the US Postal Service? Like Journey use to sing...Don't stop believing.

Jazz Jon

(109 posts)
6. Why Did the Repukes let this slide?
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 08:10 PM
Mar 2022

I am flummoxed. Why would Republicans let this pass? Letting the postal service die under the artificial burdens that were placed on it by none other than Congress, would be a big blow to democracy and would cut much needed service for average Americans.

That means that nobody filibustered it, and Joe Manchin didn't even try to water it down?

Why then, Republicans did you not let the USPS die!?

GOP, you could have dealt a major blow to America and average Americans and yet passed it up?

Somebody explain this please.


StClone

(11,682 posts)
12. BIG, HOT, Blowback!
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 08:27 PM
Mar 2022

They had a devil of a time defending the killing of the USPS. They were torched by their voters. Couldn't hide, couldn't run for re-election if they wouldn't have protected vaccine, insulin, medicine, paychecks, documents, notification, and perishable time-sensitive material deliveries. I think they will just focus on other scams.

Tree Lady

(11,432 posts)
18. Dejoy is still there and doesn't seem to be leaving
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 10:34 PM
Mar 2022

Do you think a deal could have been made republicans will vote for this bill but keep Dejoy?

I have been thinking this ever since I read about them not pushing to get rid of him.

Cha

(296,889 posts)
10. Wow.. how the hell did that ever
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 08:20 PM
Mar 2022

get passed! Magats hate the PO or is it just Mail in Ballots that scares the Shit pit pf them?

💙💛

MichMan

(11,870 posts)
22. Which passed both the house and senate in 2006 with unanimous consent
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 08:46 AM
Mar 2022

Including support by many current office holders

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
23. That is materially incorrect
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 09:04 AM
Mar 2022

Here is a link to that 2006 legislation - https://www.congress.gov/bill/109th-congress/house-bill/6407

Here is the link to the timeline of the steps through passage - https://www.congress.gov/bill/109th-congress/house-bill/6407/all-actions?overview=closed#tabs

where the House had a "voice vote" and the bill was NOT passed by "unanimous consent" (only the Senate moved to do that) -

12/08/2006-10:33pm House | On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended | Agreed to by voice vote. (text: CR H9160-9179)


And in the case of when that vote occurred, Democrats were the minority party in the House at the time because the new Congress to come after that year's November's election (elected a month prior to this vote), had not been sworn in yet (but would eventually be in January 2007). With a voice vote, you have no idea who in the House actually voted for it.

What occurred 16 years ago is irrelevant.

MichMan

(11,870 posts)
25. A voice vote means support was so strong, there was no need to record individual votes
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 10:47 AM
Mar 2022

Since it passed unanimously in the Senate, it is interesting to look back and see what Senators supported it back then. I hate it when people vote for in favor of legislation (like this " pre funding bullshit" ), and later act shocked that something so nefarious got passed somehow, instead of being held accountable for their votes.

My point was that the 2006 bill was extremely popular with both parties at the time it was passed, same as this one was. Hopefully, there isn't anything in this bill that people will regret later.

FYI, I wasn't the one that first brought up something from 16 years ago, I responded to it.

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
26. "A voice vote means support was so strong, there was no need to record individual votes"
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 11:32 AM
Mar 2022

Um no, it means that a motion for the yays and nays was REJECTED by the GOP Speaker (President) Pro Tempore (and in a tag-team move, the motion was offered by the one who would one day become VP... surprise surprise) -

From the Congressional Record for December 8, 2006 at the conclusion of the debate on the bill (scroll to the very bottom of the page which shows the very last portion of the transcript of the session upon conclusion of work on this bill) - https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2006/12/8/house-section/article/H9160-2

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion offered by the
gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Tom Davis) that the House suspend the
rules and pass the bill, H.R. 6407, as amended.
The question was taken.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. LaHood). In the opinion of the Chair,
two-thirds of those voting have responded in the affirmative.
Mr. PENCE. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were refused.
So (two-thirds of those voting having responded in the affirmative)
the rules were suspended and the bill, as amended, was passed.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.


And maybe you need to take a look at the Congressional Record regarding what the sentiment was rather than guessing about it. You are making a lot of assertions without any links to supporting articles denoting this.

One of the things to keep in mind about it too was this odd but revealing thought -

Editorial: The most insane law by Congress, ever? Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006
Posted on July 6, 2014 by postal

(snip)

Who sponsored this cockamamie legislation? It was former Rep. Tom Davis, a Republican from northern Virginia who served in Congress from 1995 until 2008. He’s now a Washington lobbyist for Deloitte, a huge accounting and consulting company.

Last week I reached out to Davis to learn how and why this happened. One thing you should know is that the bill was bipartisan. The cosponsors were Reps. Henry Waxman, D- Calif., Danny Davis D-Ill. and John McHugh, R-New York.

The surprising thing I heard from Davis was that he agrees the future-funding retirement provision was crazy. That was never in the original legislation, he said.


It was obvious that the Post Office was and still is facing head winds due to a general move of bill payments/transactions moving online vs via snail mail, but how to deal with that was the difficult part and obviously would not be solved by that piece of bullshit legislation.

MichMan

(11,870 posts)
27. 67% yes votes in the House and unanimous in the Senate
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:01 PM
Mar 2022

looks like pretty wide spread support for passage to me. The votes speak for themselves.

You are free to categorize it otherwise as you please.

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
28. "67% yes votes in the House and unanimous in the Senate"
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:19 PM
Mar 2022

You apparently don't watch CSPAN nor have watched any congressional sessions and so don't know how this process works. You have been wrong in every single assertion.

There is absolutely zero proof that "67%" of those in the chamber actually "voted" either way - it was simply a declaration by the (GOP) Speaker Pro-Tempore.

I.e., based on the loudness of the VOICES and a "guess". In fact read the transcript again -

The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. LaHood). In the opinion of the Chair,
two-thirds of those voting have responded in the affirmative.


"Opinion" does not equal "fact". In fact (and this is a fact since they refused to do a roll call), the Pro-Tem had ZERO idea how many were in the chamber at that time and who was actually "voting".

THAT is why they do "roll call votes" so that you know exactly who even showed up and either voted "yay", or voted "nay", or voted "present", or who didn't vote at all and just sat there silently.

Keep digging and start doing some research.

TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
15. FINALLY the DEMS took action to help save the USPS.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 09:14 PM
Mar 2022

The conservanazis have been choking the Postal Service to death for years and almost succeeded under tRump .

Johnny2X2X

(18,973 posts)
24. This was all about Union Bustin
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 09:39 AM
Mar 2022

People shouldn't forget why Republicans went after the USPS in the first place, they are anti labor and the USPS has a large and powerful public union. And once they started attacking the USPS, companies like Fed Ex and UPS couldn't wait to throw cash at them for making the USPS less competitive.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
29. Good. Now will they confirm the board members to fire DeJoy?
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:20 PM
Mar 2022

'cause it looks like DOJ is doing nothing about his crime spree.

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