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Mr. Sparkle

(2,929 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 09:06 PM Mar 2022

Deutsche Bank defends decision not to exit Russia: It's not 'practical' right now

Source: Cnbc



Deutsche Bank said Thursday it is not “practical” to close its Russia business, despite similar moves by major corporations seeking to distance themselves from the country over its invasion of Ukraine. Speaking to CNBC, the German bank’s chief financial officer defended the decision, saying it hinged on its duty of care to clients that still operate in the country.

It comes as other major banks make moves to pull out of Russia. In Wall Street’s first departure, Goldman Sachs said Thursday that it was winding down its business in the country, while HSBC on Monday told staff to begin ceasing their dealings with Russian banks. “We’re there to support our clients. And so, for practical purposes, that isn’t an option that’s available to us. Nor would it be the right thing to do in terms of managing those client relationships and helping them to manage their situation,” James von Moltke said.

Von Moltke added that the bank would be willing to reconsider its position should the political situation escalate further and its clients in Russia — mostly multinationals — cease their operations in the country. “Of course, we’ll need to look at how this situation evolves and consider our footprint in Russia as we gain some greater clarity as to the direction of travel here,” he said. “As that [client presence] diminishes, so too will our presence in Moscow.” Von Moltke did not name any of the bank’s clients in Russia.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/10/deutsche-bank-says-not-practical-to-exit-russia-business.html

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Deutsche Bank defends decision not to exit Russia: It's not 'practical' right now (Original Post) Mr. Sparkle Mar 2022 OP
Yup, got to keep those oligarchs in cash...nt mitch96 Mar 2022 #1
You do if you want to avoid MurrayDelph Mar 2022 #36
Paging Anonymous, paging Anonymous...... Karadeniz Mar 2022 #2
Maybe Deutsche Bank could exit America. BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #3
Great idea. nt orangecrush Mar 2022 #17
Once we've squeezed every possible Trump document out of them. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #29
Exactly! BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #34
Maybe after Putin invades the Baltic states exboyfil Mar 2022 #4
TFG still getting his bluestarone Mar 2022 #5
Apparently, yes. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #30
russia.--duetsche bank--t****. niyad Mar 2022 #6
Ditto that! WVreaper Mar 2022 #13
You know what's not practical, Von Moltke? Justice matters. Mar 2022 #7
It's not practical for them to lose billions in laundered funds. n/t AntiFascist Mar 2022 #8
Bingo. ❤ littlemissmartypants Mar 2022 #22
Gee, well since this is DeutscheBank's first offense we should ignore it. PurgedVoter Mar 2022 #9
Sanction them. CanonRay Mar 2022 #10
I guess this means the laundromat is still open. justhanginon Mar 2022 #11
They love lending money at high rates to risky clients like Trump and Russia. Freethinker65 Mar 2022 #12
Check that big Russian document dump today for kompromat on DB officials. n/t TygrBright Mar 2022 #14
Well at least this is on brand for them... cinematicdiversions Mar 2022 #15
The laundromat is open blue-wave Mar 2022 #16
Von Moltke said "the bank had managed the market risk 'quite successfully' in the war's early days". Princess Turandot Mar 2022 #18
I'll bet. yardwork Mar 2022 #19
UGLY SHAME on Duetsche Bank! Cha Mar 2022 #20
If it walks like a duck... hamsterjill Mar 2022 #21
I think there was already circumstantial BootinUp Mar 2022 #23
But does it float like a duck? lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #31
Oligarchs gotta oligarch. The Unmitigated Gall Mar 2022 #24
TFG's favorite bank. Who would have thunk it. OverBurn Mar 2022 #25
Deutsche Bank needs to be shut down HAB911 Mar 2022 #26
Call it what it is. 2Gingersnaps Mar 2022 #27
that bank seems criminal samsingh Mar 2022 #28
Maybe just a little. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #32
Too much dirty money on the line? patphil Mar 2022 #33
DeNazify and force Deutsche out of the US nvme Mar 2022 #35
Yeah, it wasn't real practical for the US Mr.Bill Mar 2022 #37
Deutsche Bank Reverses Decision and Will Now Shut Down Operations in Russia LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #38

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
34. Exactly!
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 11:49 AM
Mar 2022

I see the removal of Deutsche Bank from America as a win win. Maybe even a win win win win…

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
4. Maybe after Putin invades the Baltic states
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 09:12 PM
Mar 2022

but for now he hasn't done enough to justify losing a little profitability.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
30. Apparently, yes.
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 11:09 AM
Mar 2022

Based on his behavior. Looks like some of the checks to other people might have been cut off. Leningrad Lindsey, for example.

Justice matters.

(6,921 posts)
7. You know what's not practical, Von Moltke?
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 09:16 PM
Mar 2022

Doing "business" with evil mobsters who bomb maternity hospitals for no rational reasons! So go F**K yourself you too!

PurgedVoter

(2,215 posts)
9. Gee, well since this is DeutscheBank's first offense we should ignore it.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 09:21 PM
Mar 2022

I mean when has the DeutscheBank ever before been in the news for supporting organized crime, dictators, election riggers or fascists?

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
15. Well at least this is on brand for them...
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 09:49 PM
Mar 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Bank#1933%E2%80%931945


After Adolf Hitler came to power, instituting the Third Reich, Deutsche Bank dismissed its three Jewish board members in 1933.[25] In subsequent years, Deutsche Bank took part in the aryanization of Jewish-owned businesses, provided the owners of “aryanized” businesses were in the know about their Jewish status beforehand; according to its own historians, the bank was involved in 363 such confiscations by November 1938.[25][26] In 1938, German bank Mendelssohn & Co. was acquired.[27][28] During the war, Deutsche Bank incorporated other banks that fell into German hands during the occupation of Eastern Europe. Deutsche Bank provided banking facilities for the Gestapo and loaned the funds used to build the Auschwitz camp and the nearby IG Farben facilities.[29]

During World War II, Deutsche Bank became responsible for managing the Bohemian Union Bank in Prague, with branches in the Protectorate and in Slovakia, the Bankverein in Yugoslavia (which has now[when?] been divided into two financial corporations, one in Serbia and one in Croatia), the Albert de Barry Bank in Amsterdam, the National Bank of Greece in Athens, the Creditanstalt-Bankverein in Austria and Hungary, the Deutsch-Bulgarische Kreditbank in Bulgaria, and Banca Comercială Română (The Romanian Commercial Bank) in Bucharest. It also maintained a branch in Istanbul, Turkey.

In 1999, Deutsche Bank confirmed officially that it had been involved in the Auschwitz camp

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
18. Von Moltke said "the bank had managed the market risk 'quite successfully' in the war's early days".
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 10:15 PM
Mar 2022

And they're proud of themselves!

Given that they describe their actual loan exposure to be “very limited", it appears that they're staying put because they want to, not out of financial desperation.

It's disappointing that the reporter didn't ask him if the bank did not think that it had any moral obligation to participate in sanctions, in light of Russia's slaughter of Ukrainians.


Deutsche Bank, for its part, has sought to reassure investors that its exposure to Russia is “very limited.”

In an announcement released Wednesday, the bank said that included gross loan exposure to Russia of $1.4 billion euros ($1.55 billion), or 0.3% of its total loan book.

Von Moltke said the bank had managed the market risk “quite successfully” in the war’s early days, and noted that it was working closely with clients to manage their response.

He added that the bank’s capital in its Moscow subsidiary had been “fully hedged” to manage currency risks.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
21. If it walks like a duck...
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 10:52 PM
Mar 2022

And quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck.

The Russian connection to Trump.

BootinUp

(47,094 posts)
23. I think there was already circumstantial
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 01:26 AM
Mar 2022

evidence that pointed to a Russian oligarch... through Deutsch Bank IIRC.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
27. Call it what it is.
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 09:59 AM
Mar 2022

Russian money laundering is lucarative, even after you have been busted for it. It isn't a crime if you are rich enough, just ask The Donald.

Mr.Bill

(24,253 posts)
37. Yeah, it wasn't real practical for the US
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 02:21 PM
Mar 2022

to stop buying oil from Russia, either, but we did it anyway because it was the right thing to do.

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,951 posts)
38. Deutsche Bank Reverses Decision and Will Now Shut Down Operations in Russia
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 02:52 AM
Mar 2022



Deutsche Bank’s CFO said Thursday it is not “practical” to close its Russian business, despite similar moves by major corporations seeking to distance themselves from Putin’s globally unpopular invasion of Ukraine. Deutsche had resisted pressure to sever ties, arguing that it needed to support multinational firms doing business in Russia. The German bank’s chief financial officer defended the decision, saying it hinged on its duty of care to clients that still operate in the country.

But the longtime former lender to Donald Trump reversed course on Friday, announcing that they plan to shut down its business in Russia. Going forward, Deutsche Bank said there won’t be “any new business in Russia.” The move comes a day after first Goldman Sachs and then JPMorgan Chase revealed plans to wind down their own operations in Russia.

It’s not clear what sparked the reversal from Deutsche Bank, which said earlier this week it has “limited” exposure to Russia, with gross loan exposure of about $1.5 billion. That’s more than twice the amount of exposure Goldman Sachs indicated it has. “As we have repeatedly said, we condemn the Russian invasion of Ukraine in the strongest possible terms and support the German government and its allies in defending our democracy and freedom,” Deutsche Bank said in its statement.


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