National Democratic leaders draft proposal to reshape presidential calendar, threatening Iowa caucus
Source: Des Moines Register
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National Democratic leaders draft proposal to reshape presidential calendar, threatening Iowa caucuses
Brianne Pfannenstiel
Des Moines Register
Published 7:00 a.m. CT March 11, 2022 Updated 7:11 a.m. CT March 11, 2022
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- National Democratic leaders have drafted a proposal that could significantly reshape the party's presidential nominating process and put an end to Iowa's prized first-in-the-nation caucuses -- a tradition that has shaped presidential politics and boosted Iowa's place in the American spotlight for the last half-century.
A draft resolution, obtained and corroborated by the Des Moines Register, would set new criteria for early-voting states that favor primaries over caucuses and diversity over tradition.
If the proposal advances, it would upend the party's presidential nominating calendar by requiring states to apply to hold their nominating contests before the rest of the country and expanding the number of early voting states to as many as five. Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina, which currently lead off the process, would not necessarily be given preferential consideration over other states that apply.
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JustAnotherGen
(31,811 posts)But would give the party base a chance to speak up earlier.
Other considerations would be a states diversity, including ethnic, geographic (and) union representation, as well as the states general election competitiveness.
Ninety percent of Iowas population is white, and a Republican, former President Donald Trump, carried the state by 8 percentage points in 2020. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, only 6.5% of Iowans are members of unions.
Mo Elleithee, a member of the DNCs Rules and Bylaws Committee, outlined those same priorities during the groups January meeting. "Three of the four current early window states satisfy at least two of those criteria," he said then. "One does not satisfy any of them, at least in recent years."
I seriously don't pay attention until South Carolina and Nevada. The 'look' like me, and share the same perspective.
I have my early favorites (this last election was Castro, Buttiegieg, and Klobuchar) but the past few elections how South Carolina votes - is how I make my decision. As a black woman voter in NJ - my voice is 'heard' in National Elections. South Carolina's black women - who vote overwhelmingly Democratic have zero voice in State and National elections.
Their vote in the Primary is a prayer for what kind of country they would like to live in - so I answer it.
groundloop
(11,518 posts)Being an old white fat guy, appearance wise at least I fit right in. But politically I'm the polar opposite from most of my neighbors, and it feels almost pointless to bother voting.
In any case, I've always felt it kind of pointless to lead off the primary with the Iowa caucus and believe this proposal is a step in the right direction.
2naSalit
(86,540 posts)BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,582 posts)Our only function is to be a piggy bank for the DNC to be a place to run to for those sweet West Coast dollars.
JustAnotherGen
(31,811 posts)Democratic Party members in terminally Red States.
I'm in NJ - near the VERY end of the process. Believe me - your vote is a 'prayer' sent out to me too. Even if it doesn't matter that far along in the process -
One day NJ just MIGHT be able to make an impact on the Primaries.
Rebl2
(13,492 posts)first primary state should have changed years ago. Never have liked caucuses.
Grins
(7,212 posts)BlueGreenLady
(2,824 posts)I attended a Precinct Caucus last week, in my very red county. There were no Democratic candidates opposing each other to vote for. There were no candidates lined up to speak. There was very low attendance and many precincts had zero turn out. Since we did not get enough signatures for some candidates to qualify to run for office, local Democrats had to hold another event on the town square to flag down and to call Democratic voters off the street to sign the petitions that are required to get candidates on the ballot. County, District and State Caucuses are yet to be held. The Caucus process is antiquated and so cumbersome that it almost amounts to voter suppression, imho. I would love to see them changed to a Primary election system.
Bettie
(16,089 posts)for a few people.
I just want a primary, but, I doubt they are willing to give it up any time soon, no matter how cumbersome and awful it is.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)the caucus has developed a circus-like atmosphere. Let's do something else, like primaries.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,585 posts)Too many good candidates run out of money before Super Tuesday, and all candidates start campaigning way too early.
Letting otherwise meaningless and unrepresentative primaries in IA and NH drive the media narrative has been ridiculous for decades,
nitpicker
(7,153 posts)Just think about the storms that are about to hit the East Coast on Saturday.
question everything
(47,470 posts)Unfortunately, many candidates drop after these two.
Rotating regional primaries!
In 2020 Democrats spent $100 million! with nothing to show for.
And while there, dear DNC, change the way candidates are selected to participate in the debates.
Getting the highest votes on Socils Media for promoting freebies is not the way to go.
Thankfully Joe Biden survived this process. Were it not for him Ukraine by now would be back at the bosom of mama Russia.
JT45242
(2,262 posts)When I lived in Ohio -- rarely did the primary matter. The nomination was usually a foregone conclusion by the time it got to Ohio.
BUT Ohio is a key state to win for the actual Presidential election. We had little to no influence on who the Democratic candidate would actually be, and a large role in who actually won the election. Lots of electoral college slots and a swing state. Need to pick a candidate that is likely to increase voter turnout in Northeast Ohio because the Repug haters in Hamilton County (Cincy) and the surrounding areas will show up. Ohio's population is pretty close to national averages of black and other minorities, so it is fairly representatve. We have rural areas in the appalachian areas. Urban areas -- lots of sprawling suburbs. Good representtaive population of the country as a whole.
Now, I live in Iowa. The caucus is a huge PITA. My caucus site is the junior high school need me. So it has parking for a junior high. Try to get cars for 1,000 adults in a JH parking lot. Same all over town -- small churches, elementary schools, etc and of course no decent public transportation for most of the state because -- you know Iowa -- brown people use public transportation so the legislature doesn't fund it. So, such a pain not really worth showing up.
Now, all of Iowa is smaller than at least 3 metro areas in Ohio (Cincinnati, Cleveland/Akron, Columbus and surroundings). It has few EC votes and you can guarentee that NW Iowa who elected Steve King for years will not vote for a Democrat ever.
Oh yeah, there is the overwhelming whiteness of Iowa. And Iowa usually sends it handful of EC to the repugs anyway.
NH always votes D and is also way too white to give us any real indication of what representative voters want.
Start with swing states that are diverse: SC, Ohio, Pennsylvania.
That will give us a better chance of getting candidates who will inspire a wider swath of the party.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,130 posts)Iowa has a caucus in part because it wants to be first in the national and New Hampshire will not let another primary to occur prior to the New Hampshire primary. Caucuses are dinosaurs and are undemocratic. I help run a caucus back when the Texas two step was in effect and there are games that can be played
Neither Iowa nor New Hampshire represent the demographics of the party. That was clear in 2000 when the winners of the Iowa caucus and the New Hampshire primary did not win the nomination. Democrats need to redo process to ignore 90+% white states. I do not care who wins the Iowa caucus and the New Hampshire primary
rsdsharp
(9,165 posts)Delegates to county conventions of political parties and party committee members shall be elected at precinct caucuses held not later than the fourth Monday in February of each even-numbered year. The date shall be at least eight days earlier than the scheduled date for any meeting, caucus, or primary which constitutes the first determining stage of the presidential nominating process in any other state. . .
Iowa Code Section 43.4(1).
Slammer
(714 posts)Yeah but that's subject to the rules of the DNC because the DNC doesn't have to seat any delegates at the convention who are selected in a way that violates its rules.
So Iowa law can compel delegates to be picked in that way. But they'd basically be giving up their seat at the table by doing so because their delegates would be disqualified, likely not even being allowed inside the convention hall.
And that would turn their caucus into nothing more than a beauty contest.
Most candidates in that situation would prefer to not campaign at all in the state since not winning would hurt the campaign and winning would get them no delegates.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... Advisory, like a straw poll, and not count the votes for the finish.
rsdsharp
(9,165 posts)they are bound by, and the Republican legislature and Governor wont change. Effectively, the Republican party would be able to decide that Iowa has no say in who the Democratic nominee is.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... the DNC threatening to not count the the votes from some state that was not following the official schedule, or otherwise was violating the rules that were laid out.
I'm not sure how the rules would be enforced if a state were to flout them. There must be some way.
I think that whole state law is just cover for the officials obstinacy. I think they could get around it. And if they were given some "incentive" they might try.
rsdsharp
(9,165 posts)Theres no such thing as a Democratic statute. To be sure, it was enacted to protect the first in the nation status, but it is still a law. Unless its changed there is no choice but to follow it.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... who are hiding behind it good reason to do so.
rsdsharp
(9,165 posts)Its more likely the DNC rule would be challenged.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts).... their results won't count if they don't. As I suggested above.
In other news, I can't find any law that dictates that Iowa be "first". The Iowa election law states:
https://www.legis.iowa.gov/docs/ico/chapter/43.pdf
So, just hold a lot of other primaries on the same date.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... to Florida when it tried to move its primaries forward:
The Democratic Party has taken a swipe at the nation's fourth biggest state, stripping Florida of all of its '08 delegates as punishment for jumping the gun with its Jan. 29 primary. Florida's early date could force other states to move up and up to stay at the front of the pack.
https://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2007/08/dnc-strips-fla-of-delegates-primary-wouldnt-count-002744
So this is not out of the question.
rsdsharp
(9,165 posts)and not just the state Democratic party.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... From this article it seems that they may have followed through on the threat.
https://www.factcheck.org/2008/05/seating-floridas-and-michigans-delegates/
In other news:
Democratic Gov. Steve Sisolak on Friday signed a law that would make Nevada the first state to vote in the 2024 presidential primary contests, bumping Iowa and New Hampshire from their leadoff spots... The national political parties would need to agree to changes in the calendar, or state parties could risk losing their delegates at presidential nominating conventions.
https://www.iowapublicradio.org/political-news/2021-06-14/governor-signs-law-giving-nevada-1st-presidential-primary
rsdsharp
(9,165 posts)reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)edhopper
(33,570 posts)except for pruning low hanging fruit.
If this means we can end the silly corn subsides, I am all for it.
Plus ending ethanol mandates.
Why we should pay farmers subsidies to pump irreplaceable water out of underground aquifers to grow corn to burn as fuel is beyond me.
Oil is replaceable with a large number of things.
Water isn't replaceable.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)Mawspam2
(728 posts)It does the same thing as caucuses without excluding shift workers, braving snow storms, or getting Covid at some Gymnasium.
BadGimp
(4,015 posts)Cha
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