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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,881 posts)
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 05:00 PM Mar 2022

Trump cannot sue rape accuser to stop her defamation case, U.S. judge rules

Source: Reuters

NEW YORK (Reuters) -Donald Trump cannot sue E. Jean Carroll, a writer who says he raped her in the mid-1990s, on the grounds that her defamation lawsuit against him violated a New York state law intended to protect free speech, a federal judge ruled on Friday.

U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan in Manhattan accused the former U.S. president of "bad faith" by needlessly delaying the former Elle magazine columnist's lawsuit, which began in November 2019 and could have "long ago" been decided.

"The defendant's litigation tactics, whatever their intent, have delayed the case to an extent that readily could have been far less," Kaplan wrote.

Letting Trump countersue "would make a regrettable situation worse by opening new avenues for significant further delay," he added. Kaplan also said it would be "futile" for Trump to prove that his counterclaim belonged in federal court.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-cannot-countersue-rape-accuser-171934965.html

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Trump cannot sue rape accuser to stop her defamation case, U.S. judge rules (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2022 OP
Rape isn't free speech you I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #1
+1000 walkingman Mar 2022 #2
+Eleventy billion IngridsLittleAngel Mar 2022 #4
I wish I could rec this! YoshidaYui Mar 2022 #14
I like that graphic! calimary Mar 2022 #16
The judge is pissed at TFG LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #3
More lawyers doing unintentional pro bono work. ZonkerHarris Mar 2022 #5
No, remember, the RNC is paying Trump's legal fees. gab13by13 Mar 2022 #6
I'm not so sure that the "dark money" is so dark. We now know some is russian, some is US and erronis Mar 2022 #20
Let the trial begin, gab13by13 Mar 2022 #7
Yes, will we get a DNA sample? It needs to be witnessed and collected immediately, because this liberalla Mar 2022 #18
Losing count. Is this the Ex-president's 62nd or 63rd recent "win" in the courts? N/T IllinoisBirdWatcher Mar 2022 #8
I can just hear Cheeto now: peppertree Mar 2022 #9
Wouldn't you like to be a juror on this trial! Emile Mar 2022 #10
Hell, yes. ShazzieB Mar 2022 #25
Not the first time Kaplan has ruled against him, he must be tired of the Roy Cohn two step. 2Gingersnaps Mar 2022 #11
ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS....WHEN IS THE ORANGE PIECE OF SHIT GOING TO PRISON????? a kennedy Mar 2022 #12
This is a civil case for damages, not a criminal case. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author YoshidaYui Mar 2022 #13
Challenging case Turbineguy Mar 2022 #15
Keep this case in NYS courts, this is a good move FakeNoose Mar 2022 #19
K&R MatthewHatesTrump2 Mar 2022 #21
Probably hundreds more. Like Cosby. Hope she has a very public trial, with his DNA in evidence.n/t Evolve Dammit Mar 2022 #22
Im tell ya, trump gets a bad rap. olddad65 Mar 2022 #23
You left out "malignant narcissist," but I guess that could be covered by the "etc." ShazzieB Mar 2022 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author olddad65 Mar 2022 #24

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
1. Rape isn't free speech you
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 05:05 PM
Mar 2022

Disgusting orange putrid rapist asshole.
Fuck you t___p.
Forever.
And oh after you go to jail and do some time in regular population, I hope you are eventually beaten to death . Couldn't happen to a more deserving pig

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
4. +Eleventy billion
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 05:20 PM
Mar 2022

Fuck Drumpf. Fuck him for sexually assaulting women. Fuck him for what he did to this country.
?1565487095

calimary

(81,193 posts)
16. I like that graphic!
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 09:42 PM
Mar 2022

Lock him up! And bury the key in a concrete block that’s thrown into the ocean ( preferably at a deep part).

erronis

(15,222 posts)
20. I'm not so sure that the "dark money" is so dark. We now know some is russian, some is US and
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 06:21 PM
Mar 2022

other plutocrats.

Probably less than 0.01% from real US citizens and voters who care about this country and democracy surviving.

gab13by13

(21,290 posts)
7. Let the trial begin,
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 05:41 PM
Mar 2022

E.Jeanne Carroll v DOJ. DOJ is representing the office of the presidency, apparently defaming a person who accused him of rape is now an official duty of the president.

I wonder if Trump will be forced to provide his DNA sample? Ms. Carroll still has the dress, not blue though.

liberalla

(9,234 posts)
18. Yes, will we get a DNA sample? It needs to be witnessed and collected immediately, because this
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:14 PM
Mar 2022

is another test he'll try to get someone else to take for him.
Or he'll bribe one of the technicians to contaminate the sample... or if all else fails, they could bomb the lab.
He has crazy followers who'll do anything for him.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
11. Not the first time Kaplan has ruled against him, he must be tired of the Roy Cohn two step.
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 07:01 PM
Mar 2022

He went to the Supreme Court to hide his DNA evidence in this case, the evidence that could prove him innocent, if he actually was.

a kennedy

(29,644 posts)
12. ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS....WHEN IS THE ORANGE PIECE OF SHIT GOING TO PRISON?????
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 07:13 PM
Mar 2022

and I know.......a long, long, long shot for that to ever happen.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
17. This is a civil case for damages, not a criminal case.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 02:42 AM
Mar 2022

So he won't be going to prison as a result of this case. But he could be hit with a pretty high punitive damages award. The defendant's wealth and income are relevant in determining the amount of punitive damages, so she will get to find out what he is really worth. And if his actual assets are less than what he told banks to get loans, that could establish criminal liability (bank fraud). So he might get jail time as a result of info dug up by this case. But I'm not holding my breath. I'm really disgusted with the Manhattan D.A. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/06/politics/trump-manhattan-district-attorney-investigation/index.html

Our best hope for Trump jail time is the case Fulton County D.A. Fani Willis is presently to her Georgia Grand Jury. https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2022/01/24/georgia-fulton-county-da-trump-probe-special-grand-jury

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FakeNoose

(32,620 posts)
19. Keep this case in NYS courts, this is a good move
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 02:48 PM
Mar 2022

Thank you Judge Kaplan!

When Ms. Carroll finally wins this case, who's going to pay Chump's fines for him? The RNC, or maybe one of his "donors"? Chump just took out a bank loan for $100 million. What's that money being used for?

olddad65

(599 posts)
23. Im tell ya, trump gets a bad rap.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 02:40 AM
Mar 2022

Other than being a rapist, a racist, a pathological liar, a tax cheater, a traitor, etc, etc, he is really just another crooked politician.

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