The Kremlin claims it's not seizing Ukrainian cities in order to spare civilians.
Source: New York Times
ISTANBUL -- Confronting a determined Ukrainian resistance and heavy losses on the battlefield, the Kremlin sought on Monday to portray its failure to capture most major cities in Ukraine as an act of restraint.
Responding directly to U.S. and European statements that Russian forces were making "slow progress" in large cities, the Kremlin spokesman, Dmitri S. Peskov, said that President Vladimir V. Putin had ordered Russian troops to "refrain from storming large cities including Kyiv" before the invasion.
The reason Russia had not seized large cities was that "armed clashes in urban areas would inevitably lead to big losses among civilians," Mr. Peskov said. But he added that Russian forces could still do so because Ukrainian cities are "already practically encircled anyway."
Russia has bombarded Ukrainian towns and cities with ferocity, increasingly targeting civilian areas. Kharkiv, a thriving metropolis only three weeks ago where tens of thousands of students attended more than a dozen universities, is a wasteland. People seeking to flee fighting on the outskirts of Kyiv have been killed by Russian shelling, and hundreds of thousands are without food or clean water in the industrial hub of Mariupol, where Russian forces have laid siege to the city from its outskirts.
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BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)We now see very clearly that Russia will do and say anything in their murderous quest for land and power. No wonder Trump loves Putin so much. They are two peas in a pod. Russia can go to hell and Trump can go right along with them.
musclecar6
(1,684 posts)We had a close call with our own unhinged megalomaniac ( with the completely unhinged complicit republican party) and now the poor people of Ukraine are suffering the devastation from their despicable unhinged megalomaniac and likely a similar size group of the equivalent of our republican party egging him on. Lets hope the group that are behind Putin is a much smaller group then we experienced and the majority of the people work hard to have Putins fate be like Mussolinis.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)speak easy
(9,192 posts)Trump Brags US Is 'Bigger' Nuclear Power Than Russia After Putin Issued Nuke Threat
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-brags-us-bigger-nuclear-power-russia-after-putin-issued-nuke-threat-3434349
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Command and Control structure would stop any sociopath from single-handedly launching a nuke. I hope the same for Putin - but who the hell knows!
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Perhaps it is because they don't have the troops to do it?
ruet
(10,037 posts)Jetheels
(991 posts)what a genius he is, and loving. The messaging writes itself but its not being messaged.
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)Our lack of messaging is one of my greatest frustrations with our party. Now, I wonder if it's too late, if any message would get drown out by the huge right wing media machine. We'd basically just be preaching to the choir. ???
Jetheels
(991 posts)Also lack of strategy. I dont know if it would help. They could try and see what happens.
The news is inherently designed to accent anything negative. So nothing democrats do that is helpful will reach ever reach airwaves. They need to message the good things and message the other sides bad things. Which there are piles to step through every day.
Wuddles440
(1,120 posts)that ship has sailed after Reagan abolished the Fairness Doctrine and the Dem establishment failed to react. However recognizing the importance of the controlling the media to influence public opinion, the right wingers capitalized on it by essentially taking over the AM radio dial and eventually cable TV. They have exhibited an insatiable appetite in consuming all forms of the media market and continue to do so to this day. The conservative media is now so dominant that its messaging influences and, at times, even dictates the reporting of events by the so called MSM. Meanwhile there's really no progressive counter-programming nor any efforts to do such. Beyond frustrating!
brer cat
(24,525 posts)Response to brer cat (Reply #4)
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Ford_Prefect
(7,873 posts)Same lies and false premises were offered in Syria when the ground attack there failed too.
zuul
(14,624 posts)dalton99a
(81,406 posts)Ray Bruns
(4,081 posts)That didn't stop them from bombing a maternity hospital.
ffr
(22,665 posts)I hope you go down and when you do, you go down in flames. GO FUCK YOURSELVES!
ancianita
(35,950 posts)Putin's "Kremlin" is going down because of Western sanctions; but because of trade with China it won't be out. Russians continue to live the "trickle down" life.
lefthandedskyhook
(964 posts)IMPOSSIBLE!
TygrBright
(20,755 posts)Otherwise, "Kremlin spokesperson, go ride a dick."
skeptically,
Bright
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)And my bullshit detector goes on high alert.
Me too. Then I basically move onto the next story.
At this point the Republicans can say whatever they want and I'm not going to give it any relevance. I mean, Russians.
nycbos
(6,034 posts)COL Mustard
(5,871 posts)Destroy the villages in order to save them.
Oneironaut
(5,487 posts)By that, I mean carpet bombing everything with tactical nukes and missiles until almost everyone is dead and theres nothing left in Ukraines major cities. They could have done this with 0 Russian casualties.
However, the reason they didnt isnt out of the goodness of their heart. If you want to take over a country and set up a puppet government, its counter intuitive to completely destroy all infrastructure there to the point that it would take years to rebuild and set up a stable puppet government. That would be totally stupid and yield no positive outcome for Russia.
If Ukraines government falls, Russia has to set up a new government quickly. Theres a very short window until everything goes to shit and a country eats itself alive, thus making the invasion pointless.
musclecar6
(1,684 posts)What a fucking joke. Its no different than When the commies were in charge. Its just another totalitarian dictatorship run by a bunch of assholes that lie cheat & steal. Kinda exactly like that orange asshole we had to contend with that fortunately got thrown out on his ass.
WestMichRad
(1,317 posts)
we know we cant win trying to do that. So instead, were gonna bomb and shell them to reduce them to rubble, or lay siege and starve the people out. If civilians die, its their fault for not leaving.
FU, Putin.
llashram
(6,265 posts)trying to fool their citizens who probably are getting very tired of the war. And Comrade KKKarlson and that Fox news crew are helping him spread these lies after calling Florida and asking First Traitor how to proceed. After trump has asked his master in Russia.
dlk
(11,514 posts)Seriously, do the Russians ever speak the truth?
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Morgan Fairchild...yeah...that's it.