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speak easy

(9,302 posts)
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:05 PM Mar 2022

Russian advances remain stalled as Ukraine targets supply efforts

Source: The Hill

Nearly all Russian advances in Ukraine remain stalled due in part to “creative” strikes from the Ukrainians limiting the ability of Kremlin forces to resupply, a senior U.S. defense official said Monday.

The Ukrainians “have effectively struck at the Russian logistics and sustainment capabilities,” the official told reporters.

“As we’ve said all along, they’ve been quite creative here. They’re not simply going after combat capability — tanks and armored vehicles and shooting down aircraft. Although they’re doing all that, they are also deliberately trying to impede and prevent the Russians’ ability to sustain themselves.”

The official also said “almost all of Russia's advances remain stalled” on the ground in Ukraine, with forces moving toward Kyiv showing no “appreciable change in their progress over the weekend.”

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/international/598131-russian-advances-remain-stalled-as-ukraine-targets-supply-efforts



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AverageOldGuy

(1,542 posts)
3. We old soldiers . . .
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 11:03 PM
Mar 2022

. . . have a lot of old sayings, many of which are not polite.

However, the one that comes to mind here is: "Amateurs talk tactics; professionals talk logistics."

Fuel; ammo; water; food; spare parts; medical supplies -- all the brilliant tactical planning is nothing without supplies.

speak easy

(9,302 posts)
4. In this case, the Russian 'tactical planning' wasps brain dead as their logistics.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 11:57 PM
Mar 2022

Control and Command thought their troops would be greeted with candy and flowers in Russian speaking Kharkiv.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
7. your so right & Vlad is not a history buff ! got same mentality as "TDFG" !--
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 12:21 AM
Mar 2022

just more power & bull -shit ability ! officially backed into a corner & no exit ! got world leader's with bounty's on their head's ! both won't come out of their bunker's !

Ray Bruns

(4,111 posts)
12. Exactly. A tank is nothing but a hunk of steel without fuel, ammo, spare parts.
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 09:37 AM
Mar 2022

An army marches on its stomach.

GenThePerservering

(1,838 posts)
8. Similar to The Swamp Fox
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 12:38 AM
Mar 2022

Disrupting the Russians' logistics not only destroy their movement, but demoralize their soldiers - chipping away at them bit by bit. It's like death from a thousand cuts.

Francis "Swamp Fox" Marion in the Revolutionary War couldn't outfight the British troops - he and his band of followers were too small, so he used the guerilla warfare tactics he had learnt in the Seven Years War with lightening attacks on the British supply lines, destroying them and melting back into the swamps. He and his ragged band did so much damage, and caused so much chaos, that he was created a brigadier general - he wasn't flashy, but he was dangerous.

Canoe52

(2,949 posts)
9. Maybe they thought they'd just be able to fuel up when they rolled
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 02:27 AM
Mar 2022

into Kiev? Or have the tanks stop at the local truck stop for diesel? Right after being greeted as liberators? And why does this sound so familiar?

Kaleva

(36,341 posts)
10. My guess is that the front is very porous
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 06:19 AM
Mar 2022

The Russians don't have full control of the countryside they are in and are sticking to large towns and the main roads. Allowing UKR forces to use the countryside and side roads to get behind the Russian combat forces and attack the RU supply convoys.

I see maps of Ukraine where the areas the Russians are in are solid red but I think it's more of a case of there bring strings of red in those areas and lots of blue (UKR) between the strings.

speak easy

(9,302 posts)
11. The idea that Russia can occupy Ukraine with a puppet government is lala.
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 06:51 AM
Mar 2022

It's a huge country with a population that just about despises them - Ukrainian and Russian speakers alike.

Torchlight

(3,360 posts)
13. "Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 09:40 AM
Mar 2022

I think that was attributed to Gen Omar Bradley, but it's early and my coffee routine is slower than normal. Disruption of supply has an effect beyond that of fuel and ammo, it affects unit moral to a great degree as well

14. Cyrus the Great and the Scythians
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 11:49 AM
Mar 2022

The ancient Scythian tribes of nomadic warriors lived in the general area of modern Ukraine. When the Persian king Cyrus the Great tried to conquer them, they hid their women and children at a secret location somewhere in the north, and then enticed Cyrus into chasing them all over the country. The Scythians didn't have any towns, and Cyrus and his army couldn't replenish their food and other supplies. So Cyrus eventually had to give up the chase and leave.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
15. Starve the bear.
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 11:57 AM
Mar 2022

Destroy columns of tanker trucks on the open roads and you stop the mechanized military.

EX500rider

(10,856 posts)
16. More details:
Tue Mar 15, 2022, 03:38 PM
Mar 2022

March 14, 2022: The Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 was not unexpected but the poor performance of the Russian military was a surprise, even to the Ukrainians. One of those surprises was the Russian inability to gain air superiority. The Russian air force has dominated the skies over Syria for years. But in Ukraine Russian helicopters (transports and gunships) as well as large transports were more often seen, and shot down, than Russian jet fighters and ground attack aircraft. The Russian helicopters still operate inside Ukraine, but have to do so carefully because the Ukrainians have received over 10,000 modern portable anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons, which were distributed to hundreds of small teams of twenty or so soldiers and local volunteers who know the local terrain and secondary roads better than the Russians. These teams are directed to roads used by Russian convoys or areas where combat vehicles are concentrated and carry out surprise attacks. Local civilians report Russian activity and this is passed on to the attack teams. Ukraine also receives recent commercial satellite photos of Russian activity. Ukraine also has over twenty armed (with laser guided missiles) TB2 UAVs purchased from Turkey before the invasion with more delivered, via Poland, in early March.

The initial airstrikes on Ukrainian military bases, using hundreds of ballistic and cruise missiles, was also a failure because the Ukrainians received a warning from a reliable source a few hours before the attack and were able to disperse most of their troops and aircraft before the missiles hit.

The situation maps showing Russian troops in Ukraine are also misleading. Ukraine is a big country and the Russian forces are spread over a large area. Russians don’t control much territory as they concentrate on maintaining control of a few roads using roadblocks, check points and armed escorts for some supply convoys. Most of the time the roads are available to any civilian vehicles. This enables the Ukrainian ambush teams to reach a portion of a road suitable for an ambush, conceal themselves and their vehicles and wait for the approaching convoy. These battles mean Russian troops deeper inside Ukraine are usually short of fuel, ammunition, medical supplies, food and reinforcements. That accounts for the poor morale among the Russian forces and their lackluster performance. Another problem is that many of the 100,000 Russian troops inside Ukraine are conscripts doing their one year of service and banned, by law, from serving in a combat zone unless there is a national emergency. Ukraine has about 200,000 soldiers and reservists as well as over 100,000 armed volunteers defending Ukraine. These defenders have the support of nearly all Ukrainians while the invaders do not.

Ukraine used the UAV TB2 as a mobile anti-vehicle weapon that could quickly reach a Russian supply convoy, especially one carrying fuel, and destroy a few vehicles with laser guided missiles and immobilize the convoy long enough for one of the ground teams to reach the location and finish the work. Russian drivers were smarter than their leaders and learned to abandon their vehicles and walk away before Ukrainian ground forces arrived. The TB2 was embarrassing for the Russians in other ways, as it demonstrated how Turkey could develop and produce effective combat UAVs before Russia could.

https://strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/articles/20220314.aspx

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