China's Vice Foreign Minister blames NATO for war in Ukraine

[catsudon]

Source: Axios

China's vice foreign minister on Saturday blamed NATO for the war in Ukraine and criticized the West's sanctions against Russia, AP reports.

Driving the news: Le Yucheng speaking at a conference in Beijing called NATO a "Cold War vestige," warning that its expansion could cause "repercussions too dreadful to contemplate," per AP.

"Sanctions against Russia are now going to such lengths that globalization is used as a weapon, even people from the sports, cultural, art and entertainment communities are not spared," he also said.
The big picture: Le's remarks come one day after President Biden and Chinese President Xi Jinping spoke about the war, with Biden describing "the implications and consequences if China provides material support to Russia," according to a White House readout of the call.

China has not publicly condemned or defended Russia's invasion of Ukraine, but Chinese officials and state media have largely put the blame on the U.S. and the West, Axios' Dave Lawler reports.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/china-vice-foreign-minister-nato-ukraine-russia-eef8dea1-2b7e-4e03-8c15-d32b2cfc2f50.html

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once again like i suspected... china is trying to have their feet on two boats at the same time. which by the way is a famous chinese saying;
"腳踏兩條船" to stand with each foot in a different boat (idiom) / fig. to have it both ways / to run after two hares / (especially) to have two lovers at the same time

[DanieRains]

1. And World War 2 Was Entirely Neville Chamberlain's Fault To Right Le?

He didn't appease Hitler enough.....

[nycbos]

2. Translation...

... Russia is having a hard time bullying its neighbor into submission.


Now call me you're the world won't let us invade our neighbor it's really not fair. They are already being mean to us about our human rights violations against the Uyghurs.

[Budi]

3. Yet not a word about the " Dreadful repercussions of Ru's 'expansion into Ukraine"

"Beijing called NATO a "Cold War vestige," warning that its expansion could cause "repercussions too dreadful to contemplate,"


And Not a word about the brutal destruction of a country, its cities nor its people either fleeing or being bombed to death.
So, Let's take the spotlight off the horror of the Ukrainians & place it on the inconveniences of Putin's Russian people:

Sanctions against Russia are now going to such lengths that globalization is used as a weapon, even people from the sports, cultural, art and entertainment communities are not spared," he also said

****

This is the stupidity of such propaganda.

[Walleye]

11. Globalization, a weapon. Russia is using starvation and freezing as a weapon

[Farmer-Rick]

32. It has always been used as a weapon

Against workers and the middle class. But what they really object to is it being used as a weapon against the filthy rich and Czar Vladimir Putin.

[Walleye]

36. Sad, but true

[brush]

44. Yeah, like NATO held a gun to Putin's head and forced him...

order his tanks into Ukraine.

Seems China's lacking in their foreign ministry statements.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

4. Frankly don't see the adjective «blame» being the conclusion from the snippets of the

speech AP decided to report on with huge number of snippets from long sentences and longer speech….That’s a propaganda tool of all media.

[TomWilm]

29. 👍

[AntiFascist]

5. Let this be a lesson to China...

totalitarian societies are not exactly compatible with the freedoms enjoyed by sports, cultural, art and entertainment communities. And, talk about a Cold War vestige: China and Russia together again. Did you not learn anything from Nixon?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

6. Oh grow the fuck up Le Yucheng

[abqtommy]

7. Birds of a Foul Fascist Feather flock together. Hey China, you do realize that we

can buy clothes, cars and electronics from other countries, don't you?

[Lovie777]

8. Who attacked a unprovoked Country? . ...

and that is why the attacking country is being sanctioned. Plus, sanction will be lifted once viable legitimate agreement is made where Russia signs in blood that they will never ever attack Ukraine or any other Independent Country again.

[BlueIdaho]

9. Don't buy Chinese Crap. nt.

[PatSeg]

31. Easier said than done

Such a large percentage of the goods that we buy today are made in China. Of course on the flip side, China's robust economy relies heavily on the U.S. to thrive, so taking Russia's side in this war could really hurt them financially. Supporting Russia is really a losing proposition in so many ways.

[BlueIdaho]

34. The journey of a thousand miles

Begins with the first step.

[PatSeg]

35. I remember years ago

when I decided not to buy anything "Made in China". I was shocked at the time to see how much merchandise came from China, but there still were plenty of alternatives. Sadly, that is no longer the case. With many items, it is go with Chinese goods or go without. That isn't too big a burden for me, as I don't really buy much these days.

[BlueIdaho]

38. It really is an eye opener isn't it!

Which leads to the question - how the heck did we end up like this?

[PatSeg]

39. I know

Though it seemed rather gradual, it actually happened quite quickly. I remember when Walmart pushed manufacturers to move their companies overseas, especially to China, so they could offer cheaper prices. They either complied or went out of business. Then their competitors followed suit.

There is plenty of blame to go around and the American consumer's appetite for cheaper and cheaper goods didn't help. No more "Look for the Union Label", most labels say, "Made in China". Now we live in a country where many people can't afford housing and healthcare, but "stuff" is really cheap. It can't possibly be sustainable.

[BlueIdaho]

40. Well said...

The only thing I could possibly add to that is the fact that when wages do not keep pace with expenses - people are driven to cheap junk out of necessity. As you said, there is plenty of blame to go around.

[PatSeg]

43. Ah yes, good point

[Beastly Boy]

10. Sounds like good news to me. China chooses all talk and no action. A prudent move.

They don't want NATO to win, but they don't want Russia to win either. The best case scenario for China would be for both NATO and Russia to come out of the war weakened, but it looks like they will settle for a weak Russia for now.

[orangecrush]

20. Yup

[FakeNoose]

41. Russia can't pay China's invoices because they're about to default

... however China can maybe take some oil and natural gas off their hands, in lieu of cash.

I don't think the US could ever work out a deal like that with China.

[Red Mountain]

12. Sounds like NATO

needs a new acronym. And an expansion plan far beyond Europe.

Democracies United (DU) is taken but if it's to be the Democracies versus 'Other' we'll need something catchy.

Suggestions?

[AntiFascist]

13. Exactly what I've been calling for...

true democracies against non democracies, but something more catchy.

[erronis]

15. Oh, how about Antifa? Or Liberal Democracies?

Terms, terms.

Proof is always in the pudding.

The current scum-of-the-earth took over the Grand Old Party Repubilcans (GOP) and turned it into a mouthpiece of the old communist state (which they originally reviled.) The party of Lincoln was corrupted to be the party of the dixiecrats.

I think we need a better citizenship test for anyone who plans to hold public office. First find out if they even know the basics of government, then the US constitution. Then have them sign a binding statement that their future employment will be summarily terminated if they ever perform acts that are contrary to their sworn duties. Summarily. Can appeal but not while holding office. Penalties and jail time if convicted.

[AntiFascist]

16. It would be all about freedom for the masses...

and NOT freedom for the unbridled Libertarian uber-wealthy! (Antifa has become a label assigned by such).

[andym]

26. United Democracies or United Democracies for World Peace

Just reversed your democracies united and combined it with Zelenskyy's suggestion.

[TomWilm]

30. NATO is not a democracy project

Among the founders were Portugal, ruled by a dictator. Invited in was Greece and Turkey, at that time both authoritarian regimes. Turkey is still giving problems, now backed up by similar rulers in Hungary and Poland. All NATO's wars has been fought in close alliances with Middle Eastern dictators, none of them better than Putin...

Good luck on making "Democracies United", but NATO is not the foundation for such.

[Farmer-Rick]

33. Well, I had to look that up

Because now of course Portugal is a truly functional socialist system, dominated by social democrats.

But man their history is full of dictators, fascists and corporate control. Wow, how many Constitutions did they go through????

But yeah, when NATO was first created they did have a dictatorship. But now they are an amazing blend of socialism and democracy.

Maybe out of the ashes of a failed Russian war and their gone crazy, bubble boy Czar Vladimir Putin will come a functional social democracy.

Portugal gives me hope. Out of something bad can come something very good. I think that happened with NATO.

And NATO can Not make a Russian Czar do anything. He, Czar Vladimir Putin, has to decide for himself like he decides for all of Russia.

[TomWilm]

37. ... that is why I always serve some links :).

The revolution away from dictatorship was not greeted with pleasure by the United States. During the coup in 1974 NATO troops were due to land for "military exercises" in Lisboa, but were refused permission to land. Spain contacted Henry Kissinger, and said they had plans to go to war to beat the commies in Portugal. United States itself were preparing to seize the Azores. Lots of interesting history there!

With the junta gone, Kissinger were preparing to throw Portugal out of NATO. The NATO membership had been very important for the junta in Portugal, who gave NATO access to military exercises in their Portuguese colonies. Portugal's wars in Africa to keep the colonies would not have continued for long without NATO weaponry and equipment. But a new democratically elected government was too much for NATO, since it might include a few COMMUNISTS!

[Farmer-Rick]

42. Wow,

What a convoluted history. Damn, learn something new every day.

[IronLionZion]

14. The US/NATO made Russia invade Ukraine

just like we're forcing China to abuse the Uighurs and Hong Kong residents and it will totally be our fault if and when they invade Taiwan, right? Seems legit

[LudwigPastorius]

18. Yep, just like the Tibetans forced the People's Republic of China to invade, slaughter, and...

try to culturally erase them.

[IronLionZion]

19. Nah, that was the US and NATO too

They needed to make China great again.

[Justice matters.]

27. Just like the Capitalists forced the PRC to crush students

in Tiananmem Square. The bloodbath was not the Communist dictatorship's fault.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

17. If it weren't for NATO Ukraine could easily have been Poland, Latvia, Estonia, etc.

Sovereign nations have the right to any sort of defensive alliances they see fit.

[paleotn]

21. Treading on thin ice there bud.

[turbinetree]

22. Fuck China......they have blood on there hands when they took down Hong Kong....

and now they are still in the gaslighting BS......Ukraine did NOT invade Russia NATO did not invade Russia.......you bet it is being used as a weapon.....greed is what drives everything....not chewing gum.....

[Grins]

23. Well, yeah. NATO moved FIFTEEN Divisions to Ukraine.

Clearly a provocation.

Oh, wait. They didn’t. Vlad did that.

And the only athletes I know being harassed/arrested are Americans!

[roamer65]

24. China is freaking out over a possible US and EU economic union.

Putler has made the impossible possible.

[dalton99a]

25. Fuck China.

[elleng]

28. This guys foot is stuck in muck.