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muriel_volestrangler

(101,265 posts)
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:42 PM Mar 2022

Russia says first phase of Ukraine operation mostly complete, focus now on Donbass

Source: Reuters

Russia’s defence ministry said on Friday that the first phase of its military operation in Ukraine was mostly complete and that it would focus on completely “liberating” eastern Ukraine’s Donbass region.

The announcement appeared to indicate that Russia may be switching to more limited goals after running into fierce Ukrainian resistance in the first month of the war

Russian news agencies quoted the defence ministry as saying that Russian-backed separatists now controlled 93% of Ukraine’s Luhansk region and 54% of the Donetsk region - the two areas that jointly make up the Donbass.

The ministry said it did not rule out storming Ukrainian cities that had been blockaded and that Russia would react immediately to any attempt to close the airspace over Ukraine - something Kyiv has asked NATO to do, but NATO has resisted.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-russia-military/russia-says-first-phase-of-ukraine-operation-mostly-complete-focus-now-on-donbass-idUSL5N2VS459



War in Ukraine: Change of emphasis or admission of failure by Moscow?
This is likely to mean a more concerted effort to push beyond the "line of contact" that separates Ukrainian government-held territory in the east of the country from the Russian-backed separatist "people's republics" of Donetsk and Luhansk.

The pace of Russia's advance in other areas of Ukraine remains glacial. Its forces have been pushed back from positions around the capital, Kyiv, and are said to have started digging defensive positions to avoid losing more or prepare for some kind of pause.

It's probably way too early to conclude that Russia has given up on capturing Kyiv, but Western officials say that Russia continues to experience setback after setback.
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"Russia is recognising that it can't pursue its operations on multiple axes simultaneously," one official said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60882156
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Russia says first phase of Ukraine operation mostly complete, focus now on Donbass (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Mar 2022 OP
The first of Ukraine's operations seem to be over, too relayerbob Mar 2022 #1
Hopeful this is good news and Putin is looking for a way out. Hoyt Mar 2022 #2
Yes. ancianita Mar 2022 #6
Yes--make ourselves look incompetent on the world stage Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #3
2nd Phase - Run Screaming out of Ukraine! AllTooEasy Mar 2022 #18
I realy hope the US and the EU keep the sanctions in place indefinitely. Lonestarblue Mar 2022 #4
Agree--need to make this country as broke as possible for as long as possible. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #5
Indeed bluewater Mar 2022 #14
Agree completely! Otherwise, he will go home beef up his military and go at it again and again PortTack Mar 2022 #15
The only thing Russia makes any money on is fossil fuels and cybercrime. argyl Mar 2022 #21
Not true at all. former9thward Mar 2022 #29
Be careful... heavy sanctions on Germany after WWI led to the rise of Hitler. yardwork Mar 2022 #22
if heavy sanctions remain, with what will Russia rebuild the military? intrepidity Mar 2022 #27
Russia makes about a billion dollars a day off of oil exports. former9thward Mar 2022 #30
It's Putin's Potemkin Victory. He's claiming victory when his army is getting a shellacking. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2022 #7
+1000 PortTack Mar 2022 #16
This has turned into a war of attrition that is reducing Ukrainian cities to rubble bluewater Mar 2022 #8
..... paleotn Mar 2022 #10
First phase?? PWWWWWFFFFtttt! paleotn Mar 2022 #9
What liars they are . . . . Lovie777 Mar 2022 #11
Putin wants at least half of the territory of Ukraine bluewater Mar 2022 #12
"first phase of Ukraine operation mostly complete". First phase is kill a bunch of our soldiers mitch96 Mar 2022 #13
Putin Blinks... BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #17
Yes! Maybe UKR could just push to the Russian border & retake THEIR country. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #23
I'm all for that... BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #25
What does he need Donbass for? He's got a former President dumbass over here. C Moon Mar 2022 #19
I see what you did there... robbob Mar 2022 #31
"liberate" Donbass...? Grins Mar 2022 #20
Goddamn liars dalton99a Mar 2022 #24
Baghdad Bob had more credibility Mysterian Mar 2022 #26
Joke from Moscow... keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #28

relayerbob

(6,537 posts)
1. The first of Ukraine's operations seem to be over, too
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:45 PM
Mar 2022

They are now moving onto the offensive. Kherson soon to fall, next up, Moscow.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
3. Yes--make ourselves look incompetent on the world stage
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:53 PM
Mar 2022

with poor leadership and failing equipment and thousands of dead and demoralized troops. Also, ruined our economy. Phase One complete, sir!

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
4. I realy hope the US and the EU keep the sanctions in place indefinitely.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:54 PM
Mar 2022

The West allowed Putin to prosper and gain power. He has proven that he is to be distrusted in every area. Heavy sanctions are needed to teach him a lesson—that unprovoked attacks on neighboring countries to rebuild his idea of an Imperial Russia are a pipe dream that he needsnto give up. There is no more imperial Russia and there never should be.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
21. The only thing Russia makes any money on is fossil fuels and cybercrime.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:41 AM
Mar 2022

Ramp up sanctions and keep looking for and seizing their oligarch thieves' assets.

former9thward

(31,936 posts)
29. Not true at all.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 11:54 PM
Mar 2022

Russia is a major food exporter and supplies minerals including those needed for electricl vehicle batteries.

yardwork

(61,538 posts)
22. Be careful... heavy sanctions on Germany after WWI led to the rise of Hitler.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 08:59 AM
Mar 2022

There's got to be a way to weaken Putin without isolating the whole country.

intrepidity

(7,275 posts)
27. if heavy sanctions remain, with what will Russia rebuild the military?
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:17 PM
Mar 2022

The sanctions need to remain until that country proves it can play nicely in the global sandbox.

former9thward

(31,936 posts)
30. Russia makes about a billion dollars a day off of oil exports.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 11:56 PM
Mar 2022

Only a few countries in Europe and the U.S. are banning Russian oil exports.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
7. It's Putin's Potemkin Victory. He's claiming victory when his army is getting a shellacking.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 06:09 PM
Mar 2022

It's typical of a control freak dictator who refuses to admit defeat when he's losing, and claims victory when his military is getting pummeled. It's all for placing doubt in the minds of the Russian people.

But... never trust this murderer. Take nothing for granted. Only assess his behavior, not his words. He's not stopping his carpet bombing of civilians until he stops. And he won't stop because he will not accept or imply defeat. IOW, Putin has to be eliminated/removed from any function he has within Russian government. His successor will have to clean up his mess. And who in their right mind would negotiate with Putin? He's a duplicitous mass murder who broke numerous treaties and agreements, and he's a war criminal. NO ONE should be accepting any terms of a cease fire to be signed by Putin, because he'll break with any agreement at the first opportunity. The west/NATO will have to insist that Putin cannot be responsible for signing any agreements. That's a difficult river to cross, but anything signed by Putin isn't worth the paper that gets signed.

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
8. This has turned into a war of attrition that is reducing Ukrainian cities to rubble
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 06:23 PM
Mar 2022
Financial Times - March 25

The morale of Ukrainian forces is high but they are fast running out of weapons and new equipment promised by the US and others needs to be delivered immediately to hold their positions let alone push the Russians into any major retreat.

The prospect of a long, drawn-out conflict — possibly akin to the Donbas war after 2014 but on a larger scale — has forced western leaders this week to reassess how they prop up Ukraine over the longer term and how they might respond if Moscow tries to regain the initiative by using weapons of mass destruction.

“There is a need to keep this sustainable. Nobody knows how long this will go on for. [Nato leaders] considered the possibility that Putin [will] just grind on, get stuck, bogged down into a war of attrition, and how we can sustain our support for Ukraine in those circumstances,” says a senior western official present at the meeting.
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It is unclear whether Russia will actually pull back forces from the rest of the country to concentrate on the east or whether Friday’s statement was intended to explain Russia’s failure to make advances in recent days.

Western officials and analysts warned earlier this week that the Kremlin might refocus its offensive on the Donbas. About a quarter of Ukraine’s land forces, including some of its best trained units, are fighting there and defeat would deliver a blow to President Volodymyr Zelensky. It would also secure a land corridor between Russia and Crimea, and possibly allow Putin to declare “victory” back home.

https://www.ft.com/content/9e3711d5-c809-4164-8daf-616fc818196b


Personally, I fear this war going on for years.

In a war of attrition, experts say that population disparity ultimately becomes a major issue, and Russia has 100 million more people than Ukraine.

This is why I feel the current and even planned level of support will most likely prove inadequate and that large portions of Ukraine will be reduced to rubble in a war zone.

paleotn

(17,881 posts)
9. First phase?? PWWWWWFFFFtttt!
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 06:26 PM
Mar 2022


So that's what getting your ass kicked means. And where, oh where is that sea of Russian armor and clouds of sophisticated Russian aircraft I kept hearing about during the run up thru a couple weeks into the invasion? You know...the ones that were simply going to overwhelm those poor, ill equipped Ukrainians.....who've been fighting the Russians in eastern Ukraine since Obama was President. Seems a lot of them are scrap at this point. Oops. Seems Ukraine was ready for what seems in hindsight inevitable.

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
12. Putin wants at least half of the territory of Ukraine
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 06:31 PM
Mar 2022

And possibly more if Ukraine get worn down in a protracted years long war.

mitch96

(13,870 posts)
13. "first phase of Ukraine operation mostly complete". First phase is kill a bunch of our soldiers
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 06:40 PM
Mar 2022

and generals and Loose a bunch of expensive hardware.
I can't wait to see what the second phase is..
m

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
17. Putin Blinks...
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 07:29 PM
Mar 2022

If he does turn tail to Donbas, NATO and Ukraine should not only push them out of that region but also push them out of Crimea into the Black Sea. Of course the sanctions must stay on until Russia freezes over.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
25. I'm all for that...
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:54 PM
Mar 2022

At least Donbas and Crimea. Push the Russians and their pals straight into the Black Sea.

Grins

(7,195 posts)
20. "liberate" Donbass...?
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 12:24 AM
Mar 2022

Odd way to spell “annex.”

Eff him. Pursue the Russian Army and expel them from all of Ukraine, beaten and bloody.

Mysterian

(4,568 posts)
26. Baghdad Bob had more credibility
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:02 PM
Mar 2022

Russian military spokespeople should end every statement with, "Yeah, that's the ticket!"

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
28. Joke from Moscow...
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 11:08 PM
Mar 2022
https://democraticunderground.com/100216527563

A joke from Moscow: "According to Putin the special military operation is really a conflict btw Russia and NATO about World dominance. Whats the situation now?" "Russia has lost 15000 troops, 6 generals, 500 tanks, 3 ships, 100 planes and 1000 trucks. NATO hasn't arrived yet."
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