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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 01:38 AM Mar 2022

Russia Seizes Millions-Worth Of Audemars Piguet Watches In Retaliation To Swiss Sanctions

Source: ibtimes.com

Russian agents have seized millions of dollars worth of Audemars Piguet watches in Moscow in what appears to be retaliation for Swiss sanctions banning luxury goods exports amid the conflict in Ukraine.

The watches were taken by Russia’s FSB security service Tuesday. Each watch can cost more than £700,000, Swiss newspaper NZZ am Sonntag reported, citing independent sources and a Swiss Federal Department of Foreign Affairs memo detailing the raid conducted by the Russians.

Russian officials said the watches were taken due to customs offenses. However, officials for the Swiss foreign affairs department said the move was likely a response to Switzerland’s decision to abandon its neutral stance and follow the West in imposing sanctions on Russia following its invasion of Ukraine.

It is unclear what Switzerland plans to do in response to Russia taking Audemars Piguet watches. Officials for the Swiss foreign affairs department have refused to comment on the issue, adding that their silence will help ensure the safety of the employees working for Swiss companies in Russia.

Officials from Audemars Piguet have also yet to speak about the incident. ............

Read more: https://www.ibtimes.com/russia-seizes-millions-worth-audemars-piguet-watches-retaliation-swiss-sanctions-3452591












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Russia Seizes Millions-Worth Of Audemars Piguet Watches In Retaliation To Swiss Sanctions (Original Post) L. Coyote Mar 2022 OP
Next they'll go after Italian shoes and German cars pecosbob Mar 2022 #1
That sounds like what bullies would do. LittleGirl Mar 2022 #2
Exactly. calimary Mar 2022 #3
Wouldn't the Swiss watch poli-junkie Mar 2022 #4
Yes they do Pachamama Mar 2022 #9
How many people wear watches anymore? Cell phones... brush Mar 2022 #5
Watches are just wrist jewelry and status symbols now AllTooEasy Mar 2022 #7
Nice watches don't need batteries. Mosby Mar 2022 #20
I had a couple of fake Rolexes tonekat Mar 2022 #35
I do...look at my wrist Vs get cel out of pocket & hit power button EX500rider Mar 2022 #28
We know they won't maintain them. Tomconroy Mar 2022 #6
TAX Write-offs. Yawwwn AllTooEasy Mar 2022 #8
Measures are becoming BlueMTexpat Mar 2022 #10
Why? For sale on Ebay or something? BumRushDaShow Mar 2022 #11
The day will come NJCher Mar 2022 #12
Already happening. China just pulled out of investing in a gas pipeline project. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #14
Russia shot the capitalists in 1917 and nationalized everything. former9thward Mar 2022 #33
That's not true at all NJCher Mar 2022 #36
And you were unable to post anything I said that was untrue. former9thward Mar 2022 #37
Post removed Post removed Mar 2022 #38
No one will ever do business in Russia again C_U_L8R Mar 2022 #13
Who is the idiot advising Putin? Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #15
Cheap third world thug......apt description. Jetheels Mar 2022 #19
If Russia's on third, who's on second? China? Marcuse Mar 2022 #32
And guess who is really the ones hurting? Yeah, sure the company making the watches will hurt SWBTATTReg Mar 2022 #16
Russia is less than 2% of the global economy, smaller than Italy, only 2/3rds that of California. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #17
Thanks! I love this 'Pie' chart!! NT SWBTATTReg Mar 2022 #18
Off the wall. notinkansas Mar 2022 #21
You can't run an economy on stolen watches... BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #22
Truly a pathetic and farcical moment in history. Albeit, there's nothing risible about a war. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #23
Maybe all those stolen watches will help Putin realize it's TIME to pull out FailureToCommunicate Mar 2022 #24
Perfect Christmas presents for sanctioned oligarchs. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #25
"I helped Putin loot Russia, and all I got was this flashy watch." FailureToCommunicate Mar 2022 #26
LOL. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #27
Good grief. The word is stole. Russia *stole* millions in watches like bullies. Akoto Mar 2022 #29
On the value of these watches... Akoto Mar 2022 #30
"Russian agents have seized Audemars Piguet watches in Moscow" I think the term is bought. mitch96 Mar 2022 #31
Take those damn watches and shove'em up yer ass comrade Putin. nt oasis Mar 2022 #34
You know what we haven't seen? jmowreader Mar 2022 #39

LittleGirl

(8,280 posts)
2. That sounds like what bullies would do.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 02:12 AM
Mar 2022

The Swiss can absorb the costs. You know you've messed up when the Swiss are no longer neutral.

poli-junkie

(998 posts)
4. Wouldn't the Swiss watch
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 02:18 AM
Mar 2022

Maker have a unique serial # for each watch and declare that watch as hot thus reducing its value?

AllTooEasy

(1,260 posts)
7. Watches are just wrist jewelry and status symbols now
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:58 AM
Mar 2022

I wear nice watches at “dressy” events. The batteries don’t even work anymore, and nobody around me could care less.

tonekat

(1,811 posts)
35. I had a couple of fake Rolexes
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 12:07 AM
Mar 2022

At the time, years ago. Back then, I had a very smarmy co-worker, and I was wearing one of the fakes to work. He fell for it. I told him it was a gift from my future in-laws.

He was a piece of work, he got into a program where he would take the day off to go to law school and still get paid (it was a major insurance company). I found out later he never attended school.

AllTooEasy

(1,260 posts)
8. TAX Write-offs. Yawwwn
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:04 AM
Mar 2022

Those Swiss billionaires will view these seizures as minor inconveniences. Order the secretary to file the insurance paperwork, and move on with your fancy lifestyle.

NJCher

(35,622 posts)
12. The day will come
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:48 AM
Mar 2022

When Russia is desperate for investment money and because of a history like this, there will be none.

former9thward

(31,941 posts)
33. Russia shot the capitalists in 1917 and nationalized everything.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:26 PM
Mar 2022

China did the same in 1949. Neither had a problem getting investment when it suited them.

NJCher

(35,622 posts)
36. That's not true at all
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 12:57 AM
Mar 2022

You post the most erroneous stuff.

There’s an article in the wash post that was published in the last few days that recounts the struggle to rebuild their economy. Go find it. Educate yourself and stop posting stupid untrue crap.

former9thward

(31,941 posts)
37. And you were unable to post anything I said that was untrue.
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 01:01 AM
Mar 2022

Just your name calling. I am not surprised.

Response to former9thward (Reply #37)

C_U_L8R

(44,990 posts)
13. No one will ever do business in Russia again
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 07:02 AM
Mar 2022

Trust takes years to build and seconds to lose. They'll never get it back.

Beastly Boy

(9,237 posts)
15. Who is the idiot advising Putin?
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 08:33 AM
Mar 2022

He certainly has no sense of taste or style. Audemars is so Saudi minor royalty watch! Now Putin looks like a cheap third world thug. If you make grand larceny part of your foreign policy, the least you can do is go after Breguet, for gawd's sake!

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
16. And guess who is really the ones hurting? Yeah, sure the company making the watches will hurt
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 08:44 AM
Mar 2022

as a result (and the dealers too) of the watches being seized, but putin's buddies too, will feel the pain since they no longer can buy a $700K watch...my god, watch the pain race across their faces when the Russian Billionaires can no longer buy these watches.

Russia and / or Putin seem to have an outsized opinion of the Russian economy, it's only 5% of the size of the US Economy, and I suspect roughly 5% of the European Economy too (Europe and the US are roughly equivalent, economy-wise). So, every company Russia seizes stuff from, force them to shut down, etc., a loss of equipment, a loss of talent, and more (foreign exchange) will still be there and continue to hurt the Russian economy.

Not looking so good, Putin. As tRump would say, what would you, as a world class leader, do now? I know already what tRump would do, he would have been already in the basement bunker by now, and mumbling about this or that, nothing which has to do w/ the current situation since he's so much mentally out of it. His drugs of choice must be of poorer quality.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
17. Russia is less than 2% of the global economy, smaller than Italy, only 2/3rds that of California.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:02 AM
Mar 2022

Different story if the comparison is oil and gas production.



notinkansas

(1,096 posts)
21. Off the wall.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:37 AM
Mar 2022

Will FSB guys in trenchcoats be walking the streets trying to sell the watches in order to fund their war effort?

Wacko. I should probably try to get more sleep. The mind tends to wander after all the nonstop bad news out there.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
23. Truly a pathetic and farcical moment in history. Albeit, there's nothing risible about a war.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 11:03 AM
Mar 2022

What's next, banning French fries?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
25. Perfect Christmas presents for sanctioned oligarchs.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 11:21 AM
Mar 2022

Putin can add hand-written notes, "Sorry you lost your yacht and jet."

Akoto

(4,266 posts)
30. On the value of these watches...
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 05:02 PM
Mar 2022

Some are asking why they'd take the watches. I had a think about that...

The worth as given is a little under $1m USD each. Impossible to know the total value because we are only told that 'millions' in watches were stolen in the raid. I assume, given it made the news, that it may have been a warehouse or something.

Naturally, part of the value is the brand name and the craftsmanship. However, looking at the watches, they would also be quite valuable for what they're made of. If you had a pile of them, you could break them down for gold and silver (among other precious metals), and it looks like some are encrusted in diamonds or other gemstones. Break one of these watches down, consolidate the materials used to make them, and you absolutely have some uses - selling being one, but others, too.

mitch96

(13,871 posts)
31. "Russian agents have seized Audemars Piguet watches in Moscow" I think the term is bought.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 05:19 PM
Mar 2022

The Swiss can just take the cost of the watches out of Putins billions to pay for them...
Putin looses..... again... What's he gonna do, pout?
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jmowreader

(50,529 posts)
39. You know what we haven't seen?
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 11:30 PM
Mar 2022

A count of how many watches they took. At the quoted price of up to three-quarters of a million dollars per watch, it's completely possible the FSB made off with four watches - which would make all this "they stole MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF WATCHES!!! OH NOES!!!" stuff look a bit silly.

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