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swag

(26,487 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 11:50 AM Mar 2022

Judge: 'More likely than not' that Trump 'corruptly attempted' to block Congress from counting votes

Last edited Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:25 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: CNN

John Eastman ordered to hand over more than 100 pages of Trump communications around January 6 to House committee

By Katelyn Polantz, CNN Reporter, Crime and Justice
Updated 3:59 PM ET, Mon March 28, 2022

(CNN)A federal judge said Monday that former President Donald Trump and right-wing attorney John Eastman may have been planning a crime as they sought to disrupt the January 6 congressional certification of the presidential election.

"Based on the evidence, the Court finds it more likely than not that President Trump corruptly attempted to obstruct the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, 2021," Judge David Carter wrote Monday.

Carter, a federal judge in California, ordered Eastman to turn over 101 emails from around January 6, 2021, that he has tried to keep secret from the House select committee investigating the US Capitol attack.

Carter's reasoning is a startling acknowledgment by a federal court that Trump's interest in overturning the election could be considered criminal. He also revealed new details about the emails the House is seeking and even calls for more investigation.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/28/politics/john-eastman-memo/index.html

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Judge: 'More likely than not' that Trump 'corruptly attempted' to block Congress from counting votes (Original Post) swag Mar 2022 OP
Should be interesting empedocles Mar 2022 #1
Johnny is probably more worried about his law license than what Trump will do. Frustratedlady Mar 2022 #2
Wake me when the records are available for viewing. Chainfire Mar 2022 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Nittersing Mar 2022 #13
Excellent! Ocelot II Mar 2022 #4
How long before the appeal process is exhausted and he actually turns over the communications? jalan48 Mar 2022 #5
IIRC, it only took 6-8 weeks for Trump's appeals to get to SCOTUS. NT Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #7
Good to hear though I'm not sure what difference it will make. jalan48 Mar 2022 #8
If SCOTUS rules on Eastman's appeal in the same time frame, that's mid to late May Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #9
Oh, I get that this will be more damning info against Trump. Will it matter though? jalan48 Mar 2022 #10
I guess we'll find out. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #11
Yes, we probably will find out something sometime. jalan48 Mar 2022 #12
Exactly Diraven Mar 2022 #15
Yes, that's the way these things go. We have no justice system anymore. PSPS Mar 2022 #18
Oh good, gab13by13 Mar 2022 #6
The Judge also said "it is more likely than not" that Trump committed felony obstruction Bev54 Mar 2022 #14
Liz Cheney said the same thing 4 months ago. gab13by13 Mar 2022 #16
Gotta go up Rs asses that "his emails" were found. Pepsidog Mar 2022 #17
K & R. Thanks. ⭐️ Judi Lynn Mar 2022 #19
NYT: Federal Judge Finds Trump Most Likely Committed Crimes Over 2020 Election L. Coyote Mar 2022 #20

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
2. Johnny is probably more worried about his law license than what Trump will do.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 11:53 AM
Mar 2022

All those years and end up with nothing? Maybe they'll eventually give him some iron bars to look through.

Response to Chainfire (Reply #3)

jalan48

(13,860 posts)
5. How long before the appeal process is exhausted and he actually turns over the communications?
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 12:02 PM
Mar 2022

Can he stall until after the mid-term elections?

Fiendish Thingy

(15,596 posts)
9. If SCOTUS rules on Eastman's appeal in the same time frame, that's mid to late May
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 12:17 PM
Mar 2022

Smack dab in the middle of the committee’s televised hearings.

It’s perfect timing.

Diraven

(511 posts)
15. Exactly
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 01:04 PM
Mar 2022

Doesn't matter who orders what, they will just refuse to do it, no one will prosecute them for contempt just like all the other times, and they will just laugh and laugh.

gab13by13

(21,319 posts)
6. Oh good,
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 12:06 PM
Mar 2022

Now the select committee will have more crimes to show on prime time that should have been prosecuted.

Steve Bannon should sue DOJ for discrimination.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
20. NYT: Federal Judge Finds Trump Most Likely Committed Crimes Over 2020 Election
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:15 PM
Mar 2022
Federal Judge Finds Trump Most Likely Committed Crimes Over 2020 Election

WASHINGTON — A federal judge ruled on Monday that former President Donald J. Trump and a lawyer who had advised him on how to overturn the 2020 election most likely had committed felonies, including obstructing the work of Congress and conspiring to defraud the United States.

The judge’s comments in the civil case of the lawyer, John Eastman, marked a significant breakthrough for the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. The committee, which is weighing making a criminal referral to the Justice Department, had used a filing in the case to lay out the crimes it believed Mr. Trump might have committed.

Mr. Trump has not been charged with any crime, and the judge’s ruling had no immediate, practical legal effect on him. But it essentially ratified the committee’s argument that Mr. Trump’s efforts to block Congress from certifying Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s Electoral College victory could well rise to the level of a criminal conspiracy.

The illegality of the plan was obvious,” wrote Judge David O. Carter of the Central District of California. “Our nation was founded on the peaceful transition of power, epitomized by George Washington laying down his sword to make way for democratic elections. Ignoring this history, President Trump vigorously campaigned for the vice president to single-handedly determine the results of the 2020 election.”

The actions taken by Mr. Trump and Mr. Eastman, Judge Carter found, amounted to “a coup in search of a legal theory.” .............................
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