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underpants

(182,559 posts)
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 11:00 AM Mar 2022

US intel assess 'major' strategy shift by Russia as it moves some forces away from Kyiv

Source: CNN

Russia is beginning to withdraw some forces from the area around the Ukrainian capital city of Kyiv in what the US assesses as a "major" strategy shift by Moscow, two senior US officials tell CNN.

The Russian forces now pulling back in some areas of the north will focus on gains in the south and east. The US is already observing these movements underway, including Russian Battalion Tactical Groups leaving the surrounding areas around Kyiv.

The Russian Ministry of Defense said Tuesday that it has decided to "drastically reduce hostilities" in the Kyiv and Chernigov directions, Russian Deputy Defense Minister Alexander Fomin said according to state media RIA.

The US assesses Russia will cover their retreat with air and artillery bombardment of the capital, one of the officials said. US officials caution that Russia could always reverse again if the battle conditions allow.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/29/politics/us-intelligence-russia-ukraine-kyiv-strategy/index.html

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US intel assess 'major' strategy shift by Russia as it moves some forces away from Kyiv (Original Post) underpants Mar 2022 OP
I don't trust anything... orwell Mar 2022 #1
Thier strategy Crazyleftie Mar 2022 #20
Ukraine rso Mar 2022 #2
Russia Moves forces away...? Or as reported being pushed back by Ukrainian forces PortTack Mar 2022 #3
👇see post 4 underpants Mar 2022 #7
I suspect Russia will send these forces to Mariupol and Donbass GregariousGroundhog Mar 2022 #4
That's exactly how I was going to respond above underpants Mar 2022 #8
We'll see if Ukraine will give up that strategic land bridge IronLionZion Mar 2022 #9
Give them access to a highway and that's it. speak easy Mar 2022 #11
Possibly... Wuddles440 Mar 2022 #12
I doubt Russia is voluntarily pulling back. Ukraine is pushing them back. Lonestarblue Mar 2022 #5
So much for 'world's second or third-most powerful military' peppertree Mar 2022 #21
Yes. Billions of dollars were wasted in Afghanistan on work outsourced to private contractors. Lonestarblue Mar 2022 #22
Absolutely. The man is the 'National Id', as one observer once described him peppertree Mar 2022 #23
Surrender? Mysmi Mar 2022 #6
Hopefully they're not retreating just to prepare for a tactical Firestorm49 Mar 2022 #10
Came here to say this... Shipwack Mar 2022 #15
I commented the same above underpants Mar 2022 #16
Tactical nukes. Lasher Mar 2022 #24
The Russians are getting their asses kicked Mysterian Mar 2022 #13
If the racket on the live sound is any indication Warpy Mar 2022 #14
As they retreat back into Russia to head east KS Toronado Mar 2022 #17
I've thought about that too. Attack Russian bases near the border. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #18
Few more fighter planes and they could take the fighting inside Russia. KS Toronado Mar 2022 #19
And here's an apparent attack in Russia being reported: oldsoftie Mar 2022 #26
The SVA Did A Strategic Withdraw modrepub Mar 2022 #25

orwell

(7,765 posts)
1. I don't trust anything...
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 11:04 AM
Mar 2022

...these war criminals do or say.

We all should be glad they are retreating. It is likely only due to the fact that they are starting to get roasted in the area surrounding Kyiv.

As long as the War Pig Putin is in charge, Russia should remain a pariah on the world stage.

Crazyleftie

(458 posts)
20. Thier strategy
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 03:21 PM
Mar 2022

is to back away from the cities, and then bomb the crap out of them....that is their MO

rso

(2,267 posts)
2. Ukraine
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 11:12 AM
Mar 2022

As soon as there is confirmation that Russian troops have dramatically decreased their forces around Kyiv and once they are some distance away, it might be a good idea to quickly re-deploy some ukranian forces to reinforce the south and push Russian forces back.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,510 posts)
4. I suspect Russia will send these forces to Mariupol and Donbass
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 11:20 AM
Mar 2022

Given Ukraine's success in the north, I wonder how strong these forces being withdrawn still are. Russia may be thinking that their best course of action may have been to use what is left of them to reinforce losses in units around Mariupol and Donbas and/or to form new units from what remains to fight in those regions.

underpants

(182,559 posts)
8. That's exactly how I was going to respond above
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 11:33 AM
Mar 2022

Wearing out
Strong Ukrainian opposition
Settle for the land bridge to Crimea if they can get that in the talks.

Of course, they could be pulling back for a full barrage of missiles into Kyiv…or worse.

Wuddles440

(1,117 posts)
12. Possibly...
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 12:39 PM
Mar 2022

but there have also been reports of troops and materials being relocated to Eastern Ukraine from Georgia. After encountering effective resistance in the northwest sectors, they may simply be promoting this messaging to recover, reinforce, and reassess their strategy/tactics in the west using Belarus as a staging ground. Putin craves resurrecting the old Soviet empire and cannot be trusted!

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
5. I doubt Russia is voluntarily pulling back. Ukraine is pushing them back.
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 11:22 AM
Mar 2022

I hope this frees up Ukrainians to help liberate Mariupol.

peppertree

(21,589 posts)
21. So much for 'world's second or third-most powerful military'
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 04:28 PM
Mar 2022

And they might have been - had it not been for what must surely be Soviet-level mismanagement in their ranks and Latin American-level corruption among their contractors.

Which should remind us to keep a closer eye on ours (many an oceanfront mansion has been bought with defense contracts).

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
22. Yes. Billions of dollars were wasted in Afghanistan on work outsourced to private contractors.
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 05:01 PM
Mar 2022

One project that comes to mind is the $43 million spent to build a gas station like one that Pakistan built for roughly $500,000. The US contractors had a lot of “overhead.”

There is always some corruption, but Trump ushered in an entirely new era of corruption.

peppertree

(21,589 posts)
23. Absolutely. The man is the 'National Id', as one observer once described him
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 05:15 PM
Mar 2022

The Id, as you know, representing all of mankind's base, crass, and self-indulgent impulses - including, of course, gross 3rd-world-style corruption.

Basically, Trump personified.

Firestorm49

(4,028 posts)
10. Hopefully they're not retreating just to prepare for a tactical
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 11:52 AM
Mar 2022

nuclear strike. Nobody can take Putin for his word.

Lasher

(27,532 posts)
24. Tactical nukes.
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 05:19 PM
Mar 2022

This is just what I have been fearing, and it is what preparations would look like.

Mysterian

(4,563 posts)
13. The Russians are getting their asses kicked
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 12:45 PM
Mar 2022

by the highly motivated and resourceful Ukrainian fighting forces.

Warpy

(111,106 posts)
14. If the racket on the live sound is any indication
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 12:48 PM
Mar 2022

they are still pounding the towns to the north, possibly from Belarus.

Putin still thinks he can take the seaports and the world will allow it. Uh, no, plus the Ukrainians won't allow it. They'll bleed Russia dry as irregulars pick off men and their equipment.

KS Toronado

(17,130 posts)
17. As they retreat back into Russia to head east
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 01:37 PM
Mar 2022

ambush them on the Russian highways. Get their fuel transports first.
Hell go into Russia and bomb their refineries.

KS Toronado

(17,130 posts)
19. Few more fighter planes and they could take the fighting inside Russia.
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 02:56 PM
Mar 2022

Truth be known, the USAF could be secretly training Ukrainian pilots right now to fly A10s or our 2 stealth
fighter jets, F-22 & F-35, all 3 could give Putler headaches if they showed up unexpectedly.

modrepub

(3,487 posts)
25. The SVA Did A Strategic Withdraw
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 05:22 PM
Mar 2022

from areas they thought they couldn't hold or maintain. It turned into a route.

Don't be surprised if something similar happens to the RA. Putin is either trying to hold it together by withdrawing to the east in hopes of holding onto the gains he think he can or recognizing he won't be able to bargain from a position of strength much longer.

Every day that passes the RA gets a little bit weaker. While the loses on the Ukrainian side aren't trivial, they are probably being resupplied from NATO countries and who knows what type of training is taking place outside the battle lines. Additional trained fighters and supplies entering the conflict are probably weighing on Putin's mind.

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