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DashOneBravo

(2,679 posts)
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 06:11 PM Mar 2022

FEC fines Hillary Clinton campaign and DNC over Trump-Russia dossier research

Source: CNN

Washington(CNN) Federal election regulators fined Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee earlier this month for not properly disclosing the money they spent on controversial opposition research that led to the infamous Trump-Russia dossier.

The DNC was fined $105,000 and the Clinton campaign was fined $8,000, according to a letter sent by the Federal Election Commission to a conservative group that requested an inquiry.

Read more: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/03/30/politics/clinton-dnc-steele-dossier-fusion-gps/index.html

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FEC fines Hillary Clinton campaign and DNC over Trump-Russia dossier research (Original Post) DashOneBravo Mar 2022 OP
...wut ColinC Mar 2022 #1
They just wrote Tucker's script for the week. JohnnyRingo Mar 2022 #2
Yup. ificandream Mar 2022 #38
How about the lying fucking RETHUGLICONS?? bluestarone Mar 2022 #3
Now that we have the petty infractions out of the way, how about looking at Mr. Ected Mar 2022 #4
such bullshit LymphocyteLover Mar 2022 #5
They screwed up and have to pay a fine. I'm okay with that as long as they look at TFG chowder66 Mar 2022 #6
I don't think they've ever done anything to Trump. Patterson Mar 2022 #7
I would fucking challenge it, appeal it. gab13by13 Mar 2022 #8
You couldn't... because the OP title is misleading FBaggins Mar 2022 #20
Thank you for pointing that out. CBHagman Apr 2022 #44
LOL That's a good one - FEC demands transparency in the Age of Dark Money politics bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #9
Huh? I thought it was the repug party that opened the dossier to investigate the dumpster way back DippyDem Mar 2022 #10
They did. It was a group of antI Trump Rs who wnylib Mar 2022 #22
And agreed to pay a fine because the funding of picking it up wasn't correctly filed? NullTuples Mar 2022 #23
The error the campaign made was describing the money to law firm Perkins Coie as legal fees. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #26
Yes, That's the charge, I think wnylib Mar 2022 #31
I can't post what I want to post. yardwork Mar 2022 #11
So tRump can ask for russian help on live TV to help his election and the FEC is, cool, no prob. nt yaesu Mar 2022 #12
I hope this is in preparation for slamming the GOP, 'cuz I'm not believing that they didn't do Baitball Blogger Mar 2022 #13
Who appointed the current FEC commissioners? Ford_Prefect Mar 2022 #14
Here's the breakdown of the current members of the FCC summer_in_TX Mar 2022 #29
Dickerson and Cooksey were Trump nominees. Walther used to work for Ted Cruz. Ford_Prefect Mar 2022 #30
If I recall correctly, summer_in_TX Mar 2022 #32
The FEC has been asleep at the wheel for several years zuul Mar 2022 #15
Remember, Trump wouldn't fill vacancies. summer_in_TX Mar 2022 #33
Interesting timing as we head into the midterms. Hard to believe they just came to that conclusion Raven123 Mar 2022 #16
6 years later? Steve Canuck Mar 2022 #17
There's Something Rotten In Denmark..... global1 Mar 2022 #18
remember a few weeks ago it was found that trump took boxes of documents home to Maralago? IcyPeas Mar 2022 #19
By now, "That never happened." Chainfire Mar 2022 #21
Ask AG Garland. Who, btw, let the statute of limitations run out on the first of Trump's crimes. NullTuples Mar 2022 #24
the golden showers tape that we never got to see? milestogo Mar 2022 #25
I thought the Steele-Dossier was paid for by the (R) pResidential Candidates ... aggiesal Mar 2022 #27
BULL SHIT ZellyCabMem Mar 2022 #28
Bet it's payback for this... SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2022 #34
*according to a letter sent by the Federal Election Commission elleng Mar 2022 #35
Good news for you? UnderThisLaw Mar 2022 #36
No DashOneBravo Mar 2022 #40
Great. Just great. SYFROYH Mar 2022 #37
Trump outsourced his oppo research to Russia for free. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #39
So they are fining somebody who did nothing... SuperCoder Mar 2022 #41
wtf Celerity Mar 2022 #42
FEC corrupt pos. 6 years ago? It doesn't change that trump is a un-American pos. rockfordfile Mar 2022 #43

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
4. Now that we have the petty infractions out of the way, how about looking at
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 06:20 PM
Mar 2022

the SHIT WE'VE ALL BEEN WITNESSING SINCE 2016 AND LOWER THE BOOM ON EVERY SINGLE CRIMINAL CONSPIRATOR IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY?

Begging for a friend.

chowder66

(9,055 posts)
6. They screwed up and have to pay a fine. I'm okay with that as long as they look at TFG
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 06:24 PM
Mar 2022

and other Republican's campaign disclosures.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
20. You couldn't... because the OP title is misleading
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 07:39 PM
Mar 2022

The FEC didn't "fine Hillary" or the DNC based on some finding of guilt. Hillary and the DNC both settled the matter to avoid further actions/expenses.

The wording was "Solely for the purpose of settling this matter expeditiously and to avoid further legal costs, Respondent does not concede, but will not further contest the Commission's finding of probable cause to believe."

IOW - there's nothing to appeal.

CBHagman

(16,982 posts)
44. Thank you for pointing that out.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 12:28 AM
Apr 2022

The framing has been a problem with this story, and as usual it shapes people's understanding (or misunderstanding).

wnylib

(21,347 posts)
22. They did. It was a group of antI Trump Rs who
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 08:34 PM
Mar 2022

got it started in the R primaries. When Trump became their candidate, they dropped it. Then Hillary picked it up.

SunSeeker

(51,523 posts)
26. The error the campaign made was describing the money to law firm Perkins Coie as legal fees.
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 09:55 PM
Mar 2022

Perkins Coie used some of the money the Clinton Campaign gave it to pay Fusion GPS to do investigation on Trump, and so the FEC concluded the campaign shouldn't have called the purpose of the payment to Perkins Coie "legal fees" but rather "opposition research," even though it went to a law firm.

That is the FEC being pretty picky. So the money expenditure was reported as a campaign expense, it just wasn't described quite properly as to what kind of campaign expense it ultimately ended up being ("legal fees" versus "opposition research" ).


Why doesn't the FEC go after Trump for not reporting AT ALL the $130k campaign expense he incurred when he gave the $130k to Stormy Daniels right before the 2016 election to shut her up about their affair???



Ford_Prefect

(7,873 posts)
14. Who appointed the current FEC commissioners?
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 06:52 PM
Mar 2022

I understand that the FEC, its enforcement standards, and performance record represent something of a vexed question to begin with.

summer_in_TX

(2,713 posts)
29. Here's the breakdown of the current members of the FCC
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 10:59 PM
Mar 2022

Allen Dickerson (Chair) - Republican
Steven T. Walther (Vice Chair) - Independent
Shana M. Broussard- Democrat
Sean J. Cooksey - Republican
Ellen L. Weintraub - Democrat

Ford_Prefect

(7,873 posts)
30. Dickerson and Cooksey were Trump nominees. Walther used to work for Ted Cruz.
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 11:59 PM
Mar 2022

It isn't proof nor even a suggestion of bias as such, but you do have to wonder how this filing got investigated when so very many of Trump's and the GOP's egregious violations were not.

At the very least it is a case of selective enforcement

summer_in_TX

(2,713 posts)
32. If I recall correctly,
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:18 AM
Mar 2022

the FEC open slots weren't filled for a very long time during the Trump administration and there was no quorum to take up any matters. My guess is that Trump filled those positions just so Biden has to deal with the current tilt.

zuul

(14,624 posts)
15. The FEC has been asleep at the wheel for several years
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 06:57 PM
Mar 2022

and NOW they decide to go after the Clinton’s? WTF?

The fucking Russians funneled a shit ton of money to the RNC in 2016 via the NRA and the FEC did jack shit about it. No doubt Russia sent money to the pubes in 2020.

This is some next-level bullsit.

summer_in_TX

(2,713 posts)
33. Remember, Trump wouldn't fill vacancies.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:18 AM
Mar 2022

The FEC had no quorum for a long time. I call that hamstrung, not asleep.

 

Steve Canuck

(45 posts)
17. 6 years later?
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 07:22 PM
Mar 2022

I mean, I get the need for transparency, but by the time the FEC clamps down on Trump, he'll be dead from old age or cholesterol.

global1

(25,226 posts)
18. There's Something Rotten In Denmark.....
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 07:34 PM
Mar 2022

All this current attack on Hunter Biden and now Hillary and the DNC?

Coincidence? I think not.

Who's the puppetmaster in this caper?

IcyPeas

(21,842 posts)
19. remember a few weeks ago it was found that trump took boxes of documents home to Maralago?
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 07:38 PM
Mar 2022

these huge stories fall out of the news cycle and are forgotten. Are there consequences for this? for anything?

Is he getting away with all this?

If it was a democrat who did this .............

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
27. I thought the Steele-Dossier was paid for by the (R) pResidential Candidates ...
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 10:16 PM
Mar 2022

that wanted to get dirt on Pendejo45.

All the Clinton Campaign did was purchase an already investigated dossier.

I could be wrong though.

elleng

(130,773 posts)
35. *according to a letter sent by the Federal Election Commission
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 06:07 AM
Mar 2022

'The DNC was fined $105,000 and the Clinton campaign was fined $8,000, according to a letter sent by the Federal Election Commission to a conservative group that requested an inquiry.


Political candidates and groups are required to publicly disclose their spending to the FEC, and they must explain the purpose of any specific expenditure more than $200. The FEC concluded that the Clinton campaign and DNC misreported the money that funded the dossier, masking it as "legal services" and "legal and compliance consulting" instead of opposition research. . .

In the letter announcing the fines, the FEC also revealed that it dismissed related complaints against Steele, Perkins Coie and Fusion GPS, which have all previously denied wrongdoing.

The Clinton campaign and the DNC never conceded that they violated campaign finance laws, but they agreed to drop their pushback and accept the civil fines, according to the FEC letter.'>>>

A DNC spokesman told CNN Wednesday that it has "settled aging and silly" FEC complaints about 2016.


The Federal Election Commission hardly breathes in public, so this is likely due to a careful analysis, imo.

SYFROYH

(34,163 posts)
37. Great. Just great.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 08:53 AM
Mar 2022

Between this and CNN reporting that the Hunter Biden investigation is heating up, the Republican conspiracies will take off.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
39. Trump outsourced his oppo research to Russia for free.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 10:14 AM
Mar 2022

FEC is perfectly happy with that, because it was free.

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