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brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 11:52 PM Mar 2022

Manchin, Sinema, Kelly sink Biden labor nominee

Source: Politico

David Weil’s bid to head the Labor Department’s Wage and Hour Division was dealt a fatal blow Wednesday, after a trio of Senate Democrats voted against moving forward on his nomination.

Weil, now the first Biden nominee to fail on the Senate floor, has faced heated opposition from Republicans and business groups dating back to his prior stint in the position for the Obama administration, meaning that he’d have likely needed unified Democratic support. The fate of the vote was still up in the air throughout Wednesday, as several key Democrats had been cagey about where they stood on Weil in recent days.

The details: Arizona Sens. Kyrsten Sinema and Mark Kelly and Sen. Joe Manchin, three of the caucus’ moderates, voted against the procedural vote. The final vote count was 47-53 against invoking cloture.

Weil’s defeat on the Senate floor is a major defeat for the Biden administration, which has prided itself on its labor agenda, and for Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, as leaders typically do not move items if they do not have the votes to pass.


Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/30/david-weil-wage-hour-nom-senate-00021860
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Manchin, Sinema, Kelly sink Biden labor nominee (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2022 OP
Sinema and Manchin SledDriver Mar 2022 #1
And Kelly. Oh My! brooklynite Mar 2022 #3
I really hope this is NOT an upward trend of more Dems opposing the Biden Adm plans for America... riversedge Mar 2022 #11
Anti-labor democrats. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #22
Sad to see Kelly siding with Manchin and Sinema. notinkansas Mar 2022 #2
Indeed. tosh Mar 2022 #4
Yes sad 😞 Owl Mar 2022 #8
Wonder if the midterms are an issue Raven123 Mar 2022 #14
Is Kelly Rebl2 Mar 2022 #24
I just can't anymore. LudwigPastorius Mar 2022 #5
Time to play for keeps, like the Republicans. Shipwack Mar 2022 #6
Posters often misunderstand that FBaggins Mar 2022 #9
+1 onenote Mar 2022 #16
Doh! You're right. I had forgotten that.... Shipwack Mar 2022 #21
All of the federal departments/agencies/divisions that have no "permanent" heads BumRushDaShow Mar 2022 #12
I understand... Mike Nelson Mar 2022 #7
Damned straight..... and these Senators need to quit holding out for "perfection" groundloop Mar 2022 #10
They seem to be holding out for a Republican ideal of "perfection" lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #23
See this post BumRushDaShow Mar 2022 #13
They say the final vote failed cloture ... doesn't cloture require 60 karynnj Mar 2022 #15
Not for executive branch appointees. onenote Mar 2022 #17
Thanks -- still surprising that they imply Schumer didn't know karynnj Mar 2022 #18
I don't think they're implying that he didn't know what the cloture threshold is for appointees. FBaggins Mar 2022 #19
I was meaning that the 3 Dems surprised him karynnj Mar 2022 #25
Has Mark Kelly explicitly said what he thinks was bad about Weil's work under Obama? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2022 #20
He must not want to work for big business. JohnnyRingo Mar 2022 #26

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
11. I really hope this is NOT an upward trend of more Dems opposing the Biden Adm plans for America...
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 08:23 AM
Mar 2022

Last year I worried some about the Quad but then it settled into Manchin and Sinema. Scary right now

Shipwack

(2,161 posts)
6. Time to play for keeps, like the Republicans.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 02:39 AM
Mar 2022

How many “interim” cabinet heads, etc did TFG have? Time for Biden to make a few of his own.

Good for the goose, good for the gander.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
9. Posters often misunderstand that
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:21 AM
Mar 2022

An acting secretary still needs to have been previously approved by the senate for some other confirmable position. Biden can’t just take someone that the senate just rejected and make them an interim seat-filler.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
12. All of the federal departments/agencies/divisions that have no "permanent" heads
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 08:29 AM
Mar 2022

in the higher level positions, have someone who is "Acting" including this one - https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/about/leadership/deputy-administrator

Acting Administrator Jessica Looman

Jessica Looman



Jessica Looman has served as the Acting Administrator of the Wage and Hour Division (WHD) of the U.S. Department of Labor since June 21, 2021. She was appointed as the Principal Deputy Administrator of WHD on January 20, 2021. WHD enforces worker protections and provides outreach and education about federal labor laws including minimum wage, overtime, child labor, and family and medical leave for 148 million workers and nearly 10 million employers nationwide.

Before joining WHD, Jessica served as the Executive Director of the Minnesota State Building and Construction Trades Council, where she advocated to expand construction career pathways, protected the physical and financial health of union construction workers, and increased private and public investment in construction infrastructure.

Before joining the Building Trades, Governor Mark Dayton appointed Jessica to serve as Commissioner of the Minnesota Department of Commerce. She also served as the Deputy Commissioner and the Assistant Commissioner for the Minnesota Department of Labor and Industry where she oversaw the strategic coordination of DLI’s five divisions. She has previously served as the General Counsel of the Laborers District Council of Minnesota and North Dakota.

Jessica is a graduate of George Washington University and the University of Minnesota Law School. She lives in St. Paul, Minnesota with her husband and two sons.


Here was some info on her just prior to this current detail - https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/biden-acting-wage-chief-looman-steers-agency-to-enforcement-mode

So she has been in that role since last June and the issue is that this level of acting (on detail) can usually only hold that position for a certain amount of time (I believe 240 hours) unless an official appointee has been named and is undergoing the confirmation process, and their detail can be extended while that plays out.

Her original position was not one that required a Senate confirmation after appointment per this (PDF) - https://www.everycrsreport.com/files/2021-12-28_RL30959_6d0d6e63f911075d984705eff1cbef0cedec4fce.pdf

What applies here are the provisions of the 1998 "Vacancies Act" - (good summary PDF here - https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44997.pdf)

The Vacancies Act: A Legal Overview
Congressional Research Service

Summary

The Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 (Vacancies Act) generally provides the exclusive
means by which a government employee may temporarily perform the functions and duties of a
vacant advice-and-consent position in an executive agency. Unless an acting officer is serving in
compliance with the Vacancies Act, any attempt to perform the functions and duties of that office
will have no force or effect.

The Vacancies Act limits a government employee’s ability to serve as an acting officer in two
primary ways. First, the Vacancies Act provides that only three classes of people may serve
temporarily in an advice-and-consent position. As a default rule, the first assistant to a position
automatically becomes the acting officer. Alternatively, the President may direct either a senior
official of the agency or a person serving in any other advice-and-consent position to serve as the
acting officer. Second, the Vacancies Act limits the length of time a person may serve as acting
officer: a person may serve either (1) for a limited time period running from the date that the
vacancy occurred or (2) during the pendency of a nomination to that office, with some extensions
if the nomination is rejected, withdrawn, or returned. The Vacancies Act is primarily enforced
when a person who has been injured by an agency’s action challenges the action based on the
theory that it was taken in contravention of the Act.

There are, however, a few key limitations on the scope of the Vacancies Act. Notably, the
Vacancies Act has largely been interpreted to govern the ability of a person to perform only those
functions and duties of an office that are nondelegable. Unless a statute or regulation expressly
specifies that a duty must be performed by the absent officer, that duty may likely be delegated to
another government employee. In other words, delegable job responsibilities are outside the
purview of the Vacancies Act. In addition, if another statute expressly authorizes acting service,
that other statute may render the Vacancies Act nonexclusive, or possibly even inapplicable.

This report first describes how the Vacancies Act operates and outlines its scope, identifying
when the Vacancies Act applies to a given office and which offices are exempt from its
provisions. The report then explains who may serve as an acting officer and for how long,
focusing on the limitations the Vacancies Act places on acting service. Next, the report discusses
the Vacancies Act’s enforcement mechanisms. Finally, the report turns to evolving legal issues
regarding the application of the Vacancies Act, including a discussion of how other federal laws
may limit the Act’s reach. Specifically, the report concludes by examining the interaction of the
Vacancies Act with agency-specific statutes, the ability to delegate the duties of a vacant office,
and constitutional considerations.

(snip)


And it was the above that the previous administration ran afoul in violating (and lost in court for doing that).

However now that the official appointee appears to have had their confirmation fail due to not reaching the 51 vote Senate threshold for cloture to move to a full floor vote, some quick actions will need to happen to keep continuity.

Am not sure if Biden can have her detail extended again (assuming a new nominee is submitted quickly) or he might need to detail someone else as acting to start the clock over again. Alternately, if there is an individual who has already been Senate-confirmed, either in DOL or another Department (who has similar experience), that person could be transferred into the position without too much of a hassle.

Here is a good little discussion on the "appointment" strategies - https://federalnewsnetwork.com/commentary/2020/12/staffing-a-new-administration-worry-about-senate-confirmed-jobs-later/

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
7. I understand...
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 06:51 AM
Mar 2022

... Biden wants to respect the Advise and Consent responsibility, but this is getting silly... we're over a year into the Biden Admin. If there are any unfilled positions, we should appoint people and fill them until the Senate decides to act... they should work weekends and stop all vacation time until their job is completed.



groundloop

(11,518 posts)
10. Damned straight..... and these Senators need to quit holding out for "perfection"
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:55 AM
Mar 2022

This bullshit is killing us.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
15. They say the final vote failed cloture ... doesn't cloture require 60
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 08:58 AM
Mar 2022

If so, this was not a nomination likely to win. Even if only 50 were needed, Schumer would have known if 3 Democrats were against him making Politico's summary questionable.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
19. I don't think they're implying that he didn't know what the cloture threshold is for appointees.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 09:25 AM
Mar 2022

He helped create that lower threshold after all.

I think they're saying that the three D "no" votes may have caught him by surprise because leaders usually bring up such a vote if they know that they'll lose it.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
25. I was meaning that the 3 Dems surprised him
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 11:03 AM
Mar 2022

He and Durbin usually have very accurate. I wonder if the candidate preferred not to just withdraw as many do when their confirmation is in doubt. I suspect that the reason no earlier nominee failed is because some withdrew. I also think that Politico has overstated this as a major blow to Biden and Schumer. I don't recall them stating that some failed nominees were "major" blows to Trump.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
20. Has Mark Kelly explicitly said what he thinks was bad about Weil's work under Obama?
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 09:35 AM
Mar 2022

Last edited Fri Apr 1, 2022, 08:33 AM - Edit history (1)

Not just "employers' associations don't like him", but specific acts by Weil that he thinks makes him unsuitable for the same office? And did Kelly express this dissatisfaction with the Obama administration when he ran as a Democrat?

I've given up on expecting openness or integrity from Sinema and Manchin, but Kelly ought to have the guts to explain his opposition to President Biden's agenda, and I damn well hope it's not just "employers donate too much to me".

On edit: the OP article has been updated with a brief excuse from Kelly, which is pretty pathetic:

As Obama’s wage-and-hour chief from 2014 to 2017, Weil implemented several regulations that drew criticism from Republicans and business groups, including rules that dramatically expanded the number of workers eligible to earn overtime; increased the number of employers who could be held liable as so-called joint employers; and placed limits on which workers could qualify as independent contractors rather than employees.

“I heard from a lot of business owners, and being somebody who started a business myself, it’s hard,” Kelly told POLITICO. “There were concerns about how he’d interpret things — and he had served in the position before, so there’s precedent.”

Oooh - "concerns about how he’d interpret things ". God forbid a Democratic nominee actually sides with workers, Mark.

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
26. He must not want to work for big business.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:10 PM
Mar 2022
"Shortly after the vote concluded, Senate HELP Chair Patty Murray issued a statement lamenting the failure of “an exceptionally qualified nominee with a long track record fighting to ensure workers get the wages they have earned.”


The previous secretary was the GOP dream:

Eugene Scalia (born August 14, 1963) is an American attorney who is a partner at Gibson Dunn. He served as the United States secretary of labor during the final 16 months of the Donald Trump administration. Scalia previously served one year as solicitor of the Department of Labor during the George W. Bush administration. He is a son of the late Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia.

Scalia was described by The New York Times as "a skilled lawyer with a broadly conservative, pro-business and anti-regulatory agenda". During his tenure in the Department of Labor, he reversed Obama-era labor and employment regulations

During his tenure in the Department of Labor, he weakened labor and employment protections, drawing criticism from organized labor leaders.




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