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(34,195 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:46 PM Mar 2022

Putin ordering draft of 135,000 amid difficulties in Ukraine war

Source: The Hill

Russian President Vladimir Putin is ordering a draft of nearly 135,000 individuals as Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has not been the easy success story the Kremlin was hoping for.

The government published a decree by Putin on Monday that stated 134,650 Russians who are not already in the military or reserves will be drafted, state media outlet TASS reported. The draft will run from April 1 to July 15 and choose from men ages 18 to 27, according to the document.

The move comes more than a month into Russia’s attack on Ukraine, a war many believed Russia would win in days. Western countries said the resistance of the Ukrainian people came as a shock to Moscow, and Russia has still been unable to capture any major cities. The slow progress and strong resistance have reportedly dampened the morale of Russian troops as tensions arise between the military and Putin.

The document from Monday also says military personnel will be discharged whose contracts are up, according to TASS.



Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/international/3012130-putin-ordering-draft-of-135000-amid-difficulties-in-ukraine-war/

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Putin ordering draft of 135,000 amid difficulties in Ukraine war (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 OP
This is insane . . Lovie777 Mar 2022 #1
More cannon fodder for the crazy butcher Justice matters. Mar 2022 #24
That's all they are... regnaD kciN Mar 2022 #34
I've been worried Putin would pull a WW2 Stalin and shoot conscripts in the back for not fighting. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2022 #39
Should really help turn Russian mothers/wives against the war in Ukraine Fresh_Start Mar 2022 #2
a million? getagrip_already Mar 2022 #12
yes, and that is a good thing for us Fresh_Start Mar 2022 #13
Will Russia's mothers and fathers..... SergeStorms Mar 2022 #3
This sounds like it will be popular... nt Gore1FL Mar 2022 #4
And sent to die with a day or two of training. Traildogbob Mar 2022 #5
More meat for the grinder C_U_L8R Mar 2022 #6
THIS BlueWavePsych Mar 2022 #9
From what I've read elsewhere online, this is one of the twice yearly drafts OnlinePoker Mar 2022 #7
They conscript 130-150K every spring and fall...this is nothing new. But yes, sad..more bodies PortTack Mar 2022 #8
And 18-27 yr old men will start to vanish from their homes....... oldsoftie Mar 2022 #10
what makes me suspect.... getagrip_already Mar 2022 #11
From what I hear that is not out of the ordinary. You doc03 Mar 2022 #14
...or until killed or maimed. Harker Mar 2022 #21
That sounds like an escalation, not a retreat. ffr Mar 2022 #15
They should all tell him "You first" IronLionZion Mar 2022 #16
I wonder how many of those drafted will quietly slip across a border somewhere. Lonestarblue Mar 2022 #17
This is routine sarisataka Mar 2022 #18
Cue the draft riots ! nt eppur_se_muova Mar 2022 #19
I'm sure that'll boost his popularity. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #20
Ah yes the cannon fodder regime....so how was there day in Russia ..... turbinetree Mar 2022 #22
Enemy at the Gate Aviation Pro Mar 2022 #23
Or the better variant, Igel Mar 2022 #35
Can the foot doctor multigraincracker Mar 2022 #25
I bet most of the 18 to 27 that are supporting "de-nazifying" Ukraine ToxMarz Mar 2022 #26
That is going to be popular. What do you bet we see the first draft riots in Moscow within PatrickforB Mar 2022 #27
I'll take that bet sarisataka Mar 2022 #31
How did that song go again? DFW Mar 2022 #28
how many will show up? how many will fight? how many will run away? Javaman Mar 2022 #29
Moms must not be happy darosky Mar 2022 #30
I'd like to think Mr. Evil Mar 2022 #32
I'm sure these draftees will be happy to fight Putins war in Ukraine. patphil Mar 2022 #33
His current army is so professional and well trained. LudwigPastorius Mar 2022 #36
Hair cut, uniform, and a gun. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #37
Sort of like the US in the Vietnam era. Didn't work out too well for us either. olddad65 Apr 2022 #38

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
34. That's all they are...
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 07:27 PM
Mar 2022

These conscripts will be taken off the street, handed a rifle, and sent to Ukraine. No training, no experience. They'll be an order of magnitude worse than the troops he already sent in.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
2. Should really help turn Russian mothers/wives against the war in Ukraine
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:48 PM
Mar 2022

so Putin..why don't you increase the draft number to a million

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
7. From what I've read elsewhere online, this is one of the twice yearly drafts
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:56 PM
Mar 2022

They do one in spring and one in autumn. I don't know if the number drafted this spring is higher than average, though.

PortTack

(32,750 posts)
8. They conscript 130-150K every spring and fall...this is nothing new. But yes, sad..more bodies
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 01:57 PM
Mar 2022

To maintain his murderous ego

getagrip_already

(14,676 posts)
11. what makes me suspect....
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 02:02 PM
Mar 2022

that they have also indefinately extended all contracts, or that contracts don't include enlisted troops.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
15. That sounds like an escalation, not a retreat.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 02:27 PM
Mar 2022

Putin's known for constantly doubling down.

Unfortunately for these draftees, they'll have little to no training before being sent to die in this brutal senseless war. And maybe at some point down the road when he calls up another 135,000, they'll team up and decide to stage their own war on him. Far better odds at survival there.

Lonestarblue

(9,959 posts)
17. I wonder how many of those drafted will quietly slip across a border somewhere.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 02:33 PM
Mar 2022

It’s one thing to be drafted when no war is going on and quite another when you know the kill rate for Russian troops is high.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
20. I'm sure that'll boost his popularity.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:19 PM
Mar 2022

Also it's bound to improve the quality of his shitty military, to have a bunch of conscripts on board.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
22. Ah yes the cannon fodder regime....so how was there day in Russia .....
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:37 PM
Mar 2022

wonder how many jumped right at the chance to go....and be first .... I know we had song from the Fish, I wonder if they have one...

Aviation Pro

(12,140 posts)
23. Enemy at the Gate
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:40 PM
Mar 2022

"When the one with the rifle gets killed, the one who is following picks up the rifle and shoots!"

Igel

(35,293 posts)
35. Or the better variant,
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 08:11 PM
Mar 2022

"When the one with the rifle gets killed, the one who is following picks up the rifle and gets shot!"

ToxMarz

(2,166 posts)
26. I bet most of the 18 to 27 that are supporting "de-nazifying" Ukraine
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:52 PM
Mar 2022

wholly support ANYONE BUT THEMSELVES doing it.

sarisataka

(18,539 posts)
31. I'll take that bet
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:24 PM
Mar 2022

There is nothing unusual about the timing or number of draftees

conscripts [by recruiting campaign]
Year Spring. Autumn. Total
2012 155,570 140,140 295,710
2013 153,200 150,000 303,200
2014 154,000 154,100 308,100
2015 150,145 147,100 297,245
2016 155,000 152 000 307,000
2017 142,000 134,000 276,000
2018 128,000 132,500 260,500
2019 135,000 132,000 267,000
2020 135,000 128,000 263,000
2021 134,000 127,500 261,500

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/personnel-draft.htm

DFW

(54,326 posts)
28. How did that song go again?
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:21 PM
Mar 2022

And it's один, два, три, зачем are we fightin' for...........?
не спросте, it's just a royal pain,
Next остановка is Ukraine!

Country Джозеф and the Рыба, where are you when we need you?

Mr. Evil

(2,832 posts)
32. I'd like to think
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:28 PM
Mar 2022

and be willing to bet that a significant portion of those conscripts will surrender to Ukrainian forces the first chance they get.

patphil

(6,158 posts)
33. I'm sure these draftees will be happy to fight Putins war in Ukraine.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:45 PM
Mar 2022

We did this in Vietnam and it didn't turn out well.
Expect the Russian Army shit show to get a lot worse.

Well come on comrades throughout the land
Uncle Vlad needs your help again
He's got himself in a terrible pain
Way down west in Ukraine
So put away your books and pick up a gun
We're gonna have a whole lot of fun.
And it's 1.2.3.4 what are we fightin' for?
Don't ask me, It's too insane
Next stop is Ukraine.
And it's 5,6,7,8 open up the Pearly Gates
Well there ain't no use in wonderin' why
Whoopie! We're all gonna die.

With apologies to Country Joe and the Fish.

LudwigPastorius

(9,126 posts)
36. His current army is so professional and well trained.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 10:37 PM
Mar 2022

Last edited Thu Mar 31, 2022, 11:18 PM - Edit history (1)

I wonder what the new conscripts will be like.


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