Greene sues to stop challenge to her reelection eligibility
Source: AP
ATLANTA (AP) U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene filed a lawsuit Friday challenging a state law that a group of voters is using to challenge her eligibility to run for reelection.
The challenge filed last month with the Georgia secretary of state's office alleges that Greene, a Republican, helped facilitate the Jan. 6, 2021, riot that disrupted Congress from certifying Joe Bidens presidential election victory. That violates a provision of the 14th Amendment and makes her ineligible to run for reelection, the challenge says.
Greenes lawsuit asks a judge to declare that the law that the voters are using to challenge her eligibility is itself unconstitutional and to prohibit state officials from enforcing it.
A rarely cited part of the 14th Amendment says no one can serve in Congress who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress . . . to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same. Ratified shortly after the Civil War, it was meant in part to keep representatives who had fought for the Confederacy from returning to Congress.
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brooklynite
(94,727 posts)oldsoftie
(12,597 posts)ck4829
(35,090 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,656 posts)Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs
Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)you know they've got nothing.
soldierant
(6,921 posts)She can only win if the judge deciding is corrupt, stupid, or both.
Jerry2144
(2,111 posts)But I repeated your list and only did it with one word.
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)cstanleytech
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and therefore she cannot be denied the right to run for elected office.
Of course its going to depend on what the amendment exactly says but if it does not specifically declare the need for a conviction the Conservative Republican stolen majority on SCOTUS will likely rule in her in her favor.
Just like how they have done for the 2nd to serve their own goals even though the 2nd clearly states the right to own guns is for a well regulated militias which we do have but only via the military which could be interpreted that to own guns you need to be part of the military.
cab67
(3,007 posts)azureblue
(2,150 posts)Because this would open the door to declaring any other part of the Constitution invalid..
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)It's what they do.
usaf-vet
(6,207 posts)Funny how the Constitution is twisted into pretzels to win in one case but with the next case, it is demanded, that it be kept straight as an arrow.
The entire lot of lawmakers are disingenuous at best if not out and out liars day after day.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)These fools want to end abortion but have no problem with crazy people owning guns and killing babies in school.
usaf-vet
(6,207 posts)After that, the newborn, the mother, and other siblings are ON THEIR OWN.
msfiddlestix
(7,286 posts)Couldn't have put it more clearly myself.
And what you said is a deplorable Truth.
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)DanieRains
(4,619 posts)I will bet the clumps in my cat box have more intelligence....
Hekate
(90,793 posts)trusty elf
(7,401 posts)intheflow
(28,501 posts)We want her to shut her damn pie hole! 😂
intheflow
(28,501 posts)I mean, we all know she was all in, but has the J6 committee formally linked her to the insurrection yet? Hopefully I missed that update, theres so much to keep track of.
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bucolic_frolic
(43,281 posts)It doesn't mention how to expel them, it says they shall not serve and provides a remedy to reinstate them by 2/3 vote.
If that literal interpretation could be made to stick, Congress would be 1/3 empty!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,281 posts)A14 says outta here unless reinstated by 2/3 vote. But the enforcement for not serving is unmentioned. Perhaps it's more geared to lawsuits preventing those disqualified from running?
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)True, the mechanism of enforcement is unmentioned; your theory that they expected lawsuits seems a fair guess.
liberalgunwilltravel
(336 posts)What I find interesting is that she isn't saying that she isn't an insurrectionist or seditious conspirator, what's she's apparently saying is I got caught and I don't like the fact that you want to enforce the laws I broke.
Farmer-Rick
(10,207 posts)It will be interesting what evidence and arguments she brings to court.
Won't she have to establish standing?
"Standing is a legal term which determines whether the party bringing the lawsuit has the right to do so. Standing is not about the issues, it's about who is bringing the lawsuit and whether they have a legal right to sue."
So she will have to prove she committed insurrection or rebellion against the United States to be able to bring this lawsuit successfully? Do you think she can prove it for the court that she is actually an insurrectionist?
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)We will not forgive her for this!
GB_RN
(2,373 posts)Eat Shit And Die.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Your Honor, I freely admit that I helped facilitate the attempt to stop Joe Biden from taking President Trumps rightful place. But I stopped my activities fifteen minutes before swearing the oath. The Constitution clearly states having previously taken an oath
and since I hadnt previously taken the oath you cant do a thing to me.
So
would you like to explain what you were doing in the Willard Hotel on the night of January 5, two days after you were sworn in?
AnnetteChaffee
(1,979 posts)We have Constitutional scholars out there - MSNBC should have one of them on there to discuss this. I'd be interested to see if this would be held up or if her challenge would be denied. Saying something is unconstitutional is a buzz word, WHY do they claim that a part of the Constitution is unconstitutional? Provide the details that you base this claim on.
You can't on one hand stand there and state that everything should be as the Constitutional states, and on the other hand say it isn't to protect yourself against a lawsuit. If you are going to challenge the Constitution, then you better bring a good case because this would be bigger than a state lawsuit.
Oh, and I eagerly await the results of the 1/6 commission who may take care of this in any event
Annette
oasis
(49,407 posts)Emile
(22,906 posts)brooklynite
(94,727 posts)Plaintiff: We want Marjorie Taylor Greene removed from the ballot for Insurrection under the 14th Amendment.
Judge: Has the Defendant been convicted of Insurrection under 18 U.S. Code § 2383?
Plaintiff: No.
Judge: Has the Defendant been indicted for Insurrection under 18 U.S. Code § 2383?
Plaintiff: No.
Defendant: Move for dismissal.