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Zorro

(15,749 posts)
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 01:16 PM Apr 2022

Tesla's Sales Jumped in the First Quarter, Bucking Industry Trend Again

Source: New York Times

The electric carmaker maintained its momentum from last year even as larger automakers continue to struggle with parts shortages.

Tesla, the world’s leading electric car company, on Saturday reported a steep increase in worldwide sales in the first three months of the year as it overcame supply chain problems and moved closer to production levels on a par with established luxury carmakers like BMW and Mercedes-Benz.

Tesla said it delivered 310,000 vehicles from January through March, up from 185,000 cars during the same period in 2021, roughly in line with Wall Street’s expectations. The nearly 70 percent increase was in contrast with major carmakers like General Motors and Toyota, which reported big sales declines on Friday because of shortages of key components.

The increase in the first quarter builds on Tesla’s momentum from last year, when it nearly doubled sales, to just short of 1 million cars, and overtook Volvo and Subaru. Tesla has coped better with an industrywide shortage of computer chips because its mastery of software allowed it to substitute chips that were available for ones that are scarce.

The first-quarter sales were “a positive step in the right direction for the next step of the Tesla growth,” Daniel Ives and John Katsingris of Wedbush Securities said in a note on Saturday, though they acknowledged that some analysts had expected more.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/02/business/tesla-sales-electric-vehicles.html

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cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
1. I read and article that said when battery dies on those things that its almost the price of a new
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 01:29 PM
Apr 2022

car such as a regular gasoline Kia Soul.
If true then I honestly do not foresee most consumers choosing to buy a Tesla while they have other options.

bucolic_frolic

(43,282 posts)
2. Makes sense, but I will say I don't know what to believe
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 01:35 PM
Apr 2022

I've heard batteries are better off with slow charging. And that Tesla have many more body parts than your average car. Bolted and bolted rather than unibody welded. And that leads to higher costs. Free marketers think consumers will find and reward the efficient. How do you do this when things are so complicated?

Miguelito Loveless

(4,473 posts)
10. Most charging with EVs is done "slow"
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 03:00 PM
Apr 2022

You generally only need fast charging on the road going for distance. Also, I have seen Teslas used as taxis which only fast charge and they had 85% capacity at 375K miles. They are expensive to repair after accidents, but the price is coming down.

That said, aside from cheap to fuel and maintain, they are incredibly robust in accidents. People have walked away from accidents that would have been fatal in other cars.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. The battery is typically guaranteed for 8 years or 100K miles.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 01:44 PM
Apr 2022

Tesla says battery will typically go 200K miles.

Cost to replace seems to be between $13K and $20K. Seems reasonable if you don’t want/have to buy gas.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
4. When does the battery ever die on these? I own one and it is rock solid
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 01:46 PM
Apr 2022

9 years and still going strong. I feel sorry for people who buy into the false claims about Teslas pushed by RW fossil-fuel owned media. There are many reasons to dump ICE vehicles.

I was skeptical too. But the reliability and performance is bucking everything the naysayers trumpet.

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
12. Well if it's like most batteries it depends on how you handle it as
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 04:12 PM
Apr 2022

for some it’s better to keep a charge between 20% to 80% rather than charge it to full so as to maximize the batteries lifespan.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,473 posts)
7. Anti EV nonsense
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 01:53 PM
Apr 2022

I have been driving EVs for 8 years without a battery failure. They are warranted for 100-120K miles, including motors and charging hardware.

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
14. " Anti EV" Actually I am more anti automobile and would
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 04:16 PM
Apr 2022

rather see a shift towards building a huge all electric rail system and trolley system in our country for mass transit. Probably won’t happen in my lifetime though as to many shortsighted people want their cars be it gas, diesel or electric.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,473 posts)
16. Well,
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 10:45 PM
Apr 2022

You transit the city with the vehicles you have, not the mass transit you don’t. I personally would use buses and such (I loved them when I lived in Europe), but they are scarce in this country outside major urban areas. In the meantime I am pushing my local school system to ditch their ICE buses.

JohnSJ

(92,394 posts)
13. Not if republicans win, and not unless infrastructure gets built, battery technology improves,
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 04:16 PM
Apr 2022

and the price comes down.

Also, Those who live in apartments it is not particularly practical. In those situations hybrids make more sense


paleotn

(17,956 posts)
15. Expense and relative short range will keep that from happening....
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 06:58 PM
Apr 2022

Funny thing is, if one can afford a Tesla, a jump in gas prices like we've seen recently isn't that much of a drag financially. And if it is a real hardship, chances are one can't afford a Tesla.

kimbutgar

(21,188 posts)
8. I want to buy an hybrid or EV in the future
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 01:58 PM
Apr 2022

But I can’t stomach paying for a Tesla and helping Elon Musk. Can’t stand the guy.

melm00se

(4,994 posts)
9. With an entry level
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 02:55 PM
Apr 2022

cost of $43k (but really ~$48K) that vehicle is more than I want to spend on a car which is a major depreciating asset.

JohnSJ

(92,394 posts)
11. No more tax credit on Tesla's, so expect to pay a minimum of 50K, all the way to greater than 75K.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 04:04 PM
Apr 2022

The vehicle for the everyday person

bucolic_frolic

(43,282 posts)
17. Competitors to Tesla do exist
Sun Apr 3, 2022, 06:35 AM
Apr 2022

Mullen Automotive, Lordstown Motors, Lucid to name a few. There are more than 30.
https://builtin.com/transportation-technology/electric-car-companies

Post WWI, as internal combustion replaced horsepower on farms, there were more than 600 manufacturers of farm tractors, some of them steam driven.

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