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packman

(16,296 posts)
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 02:08 PM Apr 2022

Matt Gaetz Blames Insulin Prices On Overweight People

Source: Crooks and Liars

Matt Gaetz actually sent an email newsletter to constituents (he's obviously sure they don't or can't read) which said the following:

While Democrat posturing of H.R. 6833 victimizes insulin payees as people with an uncontrollable disease that are being taken advantage of and need Big Brother to throw them a raft, lifestyle changes en masse would expeditiously lower demand and the subsequent prices of insulin. 90-95% of people with diabetes have type 2 diabetes, which “can be prevented or delayed with healthy lifestyle changes, such as losing weight, eating healthy food, and being active.” Arbitrary price controls are no substitute for individual weight control. Since 2000, the number of diabetes cases in the U.S. has nearly doubled. The demand for insulin has increased and the requisite price increase has followed suit. In other words, the price of insulin increases as waistlines increase.

No comment on the fact that a great many people struggling with the price of insulin are totally not-obese CHILDREN.

Matt just fat-shamed the 25% of Florida residents who fall in the "obese" category.

I guess he figures that since he's gotten away with underage sex trafficking so far, this isn't a big deal.

Matt would never call Donald Trump "obese" to his face, but he clearly blames fat Florida seniors like Donald for INSULIN PRICES.

Read more: https://crooksandliars.com/2022/04/matt-gaetz-blames-insulin-prices



Hey, Matt -When are you going to blame ALL health issues on the fact that people get those health issues? Can't afford cancer treatments? - Simple, don't get cancer.

Remember the famous saying from that Democratic congressman about the Republican solution to healthcare, " Hurry up and die"
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Matt Gaetz Blames Insulin Prices On Overweight People (Original Post) packman Apr 2022 OP
Gaetz is a pedophile piece of shit. PatrickforB Apr 2022 #1
I would not be surprised to learn leftieNanner Apr 2022 #4
Type 1 diabetic here jonstl08 Apr 2022 #2
Even though %90-95 of diabetics are Type 2... AllTooEasy Apr 2022 #14
Most type 2 diabetics don't take insulin. They take drugs like metformin and try to ratchiweenie Apr 2022 #17
was on that at first jonstl08 Apr 2022 #18
There's A Bit Of Confusion There. GB_RN Apr 2022 #28
My dilemma jonstl08 Apr 2022 #39
Oncologist? GB_RN Apr 2022 #40
I get them confused jonstl08 Apr 2022 #41
Thank you for this. It clears up my confusion about who takes insulin and why. ratchiweenie Apr 2022 #46
Mine was likely from Covid Blue_playwright Apr 2022 #32
I believe that many people on insulin have Type 1 diabetes. yardwork Apr 2022 #21
My hubby, too. Diagnosed in his 40s with adult onset Type I, tanyev Apr 2022 #22
Do you really think he cares at all? This is a sound byte to try to be relevant. Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #27
So now we know - he's taking money from the medical insurance carriers FakeNoose Apr 2022 #3
It's a big circular firing squad. Pharma blames Big AG who blames Big Chemical who blames......... mitch96 Apr 2022 #12
The pissant has no clue that type 1 diabetics often start using insulin as CHILDREN! Ziggysmom Apr 2022 #5
STFU . . ..... Lovie777 Apr 2022 #6
None of them are overweight though BeyondGeography Apr 2022 #13
The bulk of elderly diabetics I treat are not obese elias7 Apr 2022 #7
How is this supposed to help with his base? BlueIdaho Apr 2022 #8
Why isn't this POS in prison? Diamond_Dog Apr 2022 #9
THANK YOU Skittles Apr 2022 #24
dunkoff, there are skinny diabetics as well dont ya know AllaN01Bear Apr 2022 #10
Why, it only took him two words to insult... "Democrat posturing", no -ic? Akoto Apr 2022 #11
Wanna bet that he isn't the only con that thinks this way? icymist Apr 2022 #15
Kick dalton99a Apr 2022 #16
Gaetz must have another gig lined up, because he's not even TRYING to win over voters 70sEraVet Apr 2022 #19
I had Rebl2 Apr 2022 #20
the point should be, what the patients do or didn't do is IRRELEVANT Skittles Apr 2022 #25
So very true Rebl2 Apr 2022 #29
Exactly. Higher demand only leads to higher prices if the supply is constrained bhikkhu Apr 2022 #45
Oh look! Aussie105 Apr 2022 #23
Interesting question for creepy mattie. The Jungle 1 Apr 2022 #37
Why the heck is this sex trafficker not in jail & still allowed to walk in the hallowed halls of onetexan Apr 2022 #26
F PEDO GAETZ. n/t area51 Apr 2022 #30
Obesity is causing a huge spike in diabetes. BUT...... NickB79 Apr 2022 #31
Not his mouth he is talking out of . . . Aussie105 Apr 2022 #34
Obesity does not cause diabetes. Happy Hoosier Apr 2022 #43
doesn't this criminal have a traffic court to be in? Captain Zero Apr 2022 #33
I wonder what all of those obese Floridian Trump followers think of Gaetz's fat shaming assertions? msfiddlestix Apr 2022 #35
This theory was developed during a cocaine orgie at Matt's house. The Jungle 1 Apr 2022 #36
Wow not judgmental at all. Emile Apr 2022 #38
He's such a dick. zanana1 Apr 2022 #42
I think the blame goes to greedy pharmaceutical companies, not sick people who need the Luciferous Apr 2022 #44
It only takes a virus or bacteria to attack your pancreas Deminpenn Apr 2022 #47
Disclaimer ck4829 Apr 2022 #48

PatrickforB

(14,593 posts)
1. Gaetz is a pedophile piece of shit.
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 02:11 PM
Apr 2022

Why he is still in Congress after his child abuse, human trafficking and treason, I'll never know.

WHY is this guy even still running around free?

leftieNanner

(15,160 posts)
4. I would not be surprised to learn
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 02:21 PM
Apr 2022

That his "wingman" who is supposedly testifying in the case - and who keeps asking for more time to "cooperate" is doing the Donald J. Trump Delay Wiggle. That guy will be sentenced to prison, so as long as he keeps pretending to dish the dirt, then he stays out of jail. And maybe he's hoping if there are changes in DC with the next elections, he might get somebody to drop the charges or pardon him.

Just my latest conspiracy theory. And I'm stickin' to it!

jonstl08

(412 posts)
2. Type 1 diabetic here
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 02:21 PM
Apr 2022

First of all I do not live in Florida. Secondly Gaetz is an ass. Am 5'9" and weigh around 165-175 my entire life so I am not overweight. I am a type 1 insulin dependent diabetic who inherited from my family. Both sides have diabetics running rampart with it. Only family member of my generation who is diabetic but good chance the others could develop it later in life.

So Gaetz and others need to understand some of us cannot help getting this disease.

AllTooEasy

(1,261 posts)
14. Even though %90-95 of diabetics are Type 2...
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 03:24 PM
Apr 2022

...according to https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318472#:~:text=The%20most%20common%20of%20diabetes,of%20people%20have%20type%201.

...and, Type 2 is almost always preventable by a healthier lifestyle, these "Self Responsibility" Repukes are still full of crap!

First of all, Type 2 diabetes can result from advanced age, high cholesterol, and high blood pressure in "Skinny People". Do Repukes want people to die earlier, eat less beef, and work fewer hours? Ofcourse not. They fight every program for healthier school lunches, warning labels on food, saving gym classes in schools, and every other healthy lifestyle program. Remember when they ridiculed Michelle Obama's "Let's Move" program? Plus these oil-loving SOBs would rather you drive to your mailbox than walk there.

If these hypocrites want to lower the cost of insulin by lowering the demand (which I'm all for), then they should stop putting up roadblocks for legislation that would significantly help reduce the number of Type 2 diabetics, especially in our children.

ratchiweenie

(7,754 posts)
17. Most type 2 diabetics don't take insulin. They take drugs like metformin and try to
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 03:59 PM
Apr 2022

reduce their weight so they don't become type 1. At least that's what my husband's doctor told us when he was diagnosed.

jonstl08

(412 posts)
18. was on that at first
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 04:09 PM
Apr 2022

Was on Metformin trying to control it but it did not work even though I exercised and dieted so they switched me to insulin. So far it has helped but still costs me around $600 per month after insurance.

GB_RN

(2,386 posts)
28. There's A Bit Of Confusion There.
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 07:34 PM
Apr 2022

Type I is the result of an autoimmune response: The immune system attacks the islet cells that produce insulin. While anyone can technically become Type I, the odds of a Type II becoming Type I are really low. You don't become a Type I from weight issues, but you can be an insulin dependent Type II, just like Type Is are insulin dependent.

That's reason that Type IIs take metformin, etc., to reduce insulin resistance (meaning to make the cells sensitive to insulin - again - and thus, take up glucose from the blood stream) to try to prevent that person from becoming insulin dependent.

jonstl08

(412 posts)
39. My dilemma
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 09:38 AM
Apr 2022

My Oncologist who I see specifically for the diabetes told me I was type 2 then became type 1 because the meds were not working so put me on insulin.

Now for the confusing part. When the pandemic started my primary physician who I liked decided to quit practicing medicine. No other primary doctor would take new patients which my insurance would cover. About a year later I found one who would see me. He said what you are talking about with Type 2 insulin dependent. Asked my oncologist about that so. She said that was wrong. So I am confused because I have a good relationship with my oncologist.

I just take the meds they give me, exercise and diet. So far so good but insulin is expensive.

GB_RN

(2,386 posts)
40. Oncologist?
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 10:04 AM
Apr 2022

Or endocrinologist?

I ask because oncologists are cancer docs.

An endocrinologist is who you usually deal with for diabetes (and other diseases of the endocrine system).


yardwork

(61,712 posts)
21. I believe that many people on insulin have Type 1 diabetes.
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 05:01 PM
Apr 2022

Gaetz doesn't know what he's talking about. Even if he were correct, he's needlessly cruel.

tanyev

(42,626 posts)
22. My hubby, too. Diagnosed in his 40s with adult onset Type I,
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 05:02 PM
Apr 2022

which we didn’t even know existed. He was thin at the time and even thinner now. Still needs insulin to keep him alive.

mitch96

(13,926 posts)
12. It's a big circular firing squad. Pharma blames Big AG who blames Big Chemical who blames.........
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 03:01 PM
Apr 2022

pick one... they all play the blame game and it's the people who get screwed...
m

Ziggysmom

(3,418 posts)
5. The pissant has no clue that type 1 diabetics often start using insulin as CHILDREN!
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 02:26 PM
Apr 2022

According to The American Diabetes Association 18,436 youth are newly diagnosed with type 1 diabetes annually!

Screw him and ALL REPUBES!

elias7

(4,027 posts)
7. The bulk of elderly diabetics I treat are not obese
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 02:52 PM
Apr 2022

Also, Insulin is used much more commonly today for tight glycemic control and his pigeon holing of type 2 diabetics as not engaging in healthy lifestyle choices is pure victim shaming and wholly inaccurate.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
8. How is this supposed to help with his base?
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 02:53 PM
Apr 2022

Who are largely overweight and struggling to pay for their insulin? Are they so full of self loathing they can cheer this ass on?

icymist

(15,888 posts)
15. Wanna bet that he isn't the only con that thinks this way?
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 03:49 PM
Apr 2022

And blaming patients of many other ailments as not having a proper 'lifestyle' so they can be denied medical treatment being in the con agenda?

70sEraVet

(3,517 posts)
19. Gaetz must have another gig lined up, because he's not even TRYING to win over voters
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 04:23 PM
Apr 2022

And considering his legal problems, that gig just might be overseas (A country with no extradition treaty with U.S. preferable).

Rebl2

(13,563 posts)
20. I had
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 04:59 PM
Apr 2022

a friend who was type one diabetic since childhood. When I met her in college she was absolutely not overweight and doubtful she was as a childhood. I wish this asshole gaetz would keep his mouth closed about medical issues he knows nothing about.

Skittles

(153,202 posts)
25. the point should be, what the patients do or didn't do is IRRELEVANT
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 06:39 PM
Apr 2022

this is PRICE GOUGING no matter what

bhikkhu

(10,724 posts)
45. Exactly. Higher demand only leads to higher prices if the supply is constrained
Wed Apr 6, 2022, 05:17 AM
Apr 2022

The process is complicated, but the raw materials are pretty basic. Supply isn't hard to scale up if demand increases, and the costs of production don't change much.

If anything, like many products, it's cheaper per dose to make larger amounts than to make smaller amounts.

Aussie105

(5,437 posts)
23. Oh look!
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 06:12 PM
Apr 2022

Little Matty invented Victim Blaming!

It's true some diabetics are overweight. Like me.

But which comes first, overeating because you have no physical energy, don't know why, but eating something has given you energy in the past . . . but now, that food turns to fat.
So which is first, the fat or the cellular insulin resistance/lack of insulin production by the pancreas?

He is right though, healthy eating and exercise help.

So here is an idea or two, Matty boy!

Pass some laws to:

Close down all fast food places in Florida and the rest of the country.

Ban the addition of sugars of any kind to manufactured foods.

Supermarkets to stop selling sugar and any food over 10% sugar content.

Refrigerator/pantry police to visit homes and remove all unhealthy foods.
Check for presence of healthy foods like unprocessed foods, raw vegetables.

Compulsory exercise of prescribed types for everyone for a set number of hours per day.
(To help, TV stations and streaming media stop transmitting, social media on the Internetz shut down during daylight hours.)

. . . . Matty, you can thank me later.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
37. Interesting question for creepy mattie.
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 09:08 AM
Apr 2022

Do you get any campaign donations from the sugar industry?
In the United States, fewer than 4,500 farm businesses produce sugar. Yet they cost taxpayers up to $4 billion a year in subsidies. The U.S. sugar program is a Stalinist-style supply control initiative that limits imports through quotas and domestic production through what are called marketing allotments.
The entire sugar industry is sucking on the socialist corporate welfare teat.
How about we take that 4 billion socialist cor4porate welfare check and give it right to Medicare to treat sick people.

Also interestingly during the slave era the worst farm you could be on was a sugar plantation.

Sugar is an addiction.

onetexan

(13,063 posts)
26. Why the heck is this sex trafficker not in jail & still allowed to walk in the hallowed halls of
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 06:59 PM
Apr 2022

Congress?!

NickB79

(19,274 posts)
31. Obesity is causing a huge spike in diabetes. BUT......
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 10:51 PM
Apr 2022

If he was serious about addressing it, he'd be promoting ways to encourage healthy eating habits. Less crop subsidies to keep cheeseburgers cheap, and more subsidies to reduce costs for fresh fruits and vegetables. Promoting Michelle Obama's healthy school lunch program instead of fighting it.

But instead, he talks out both sides of his mouth.

Aussie105

(5,437 posts)
34. Not his mouth he is talking out of . . .
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 08:11 AM
Apr 2022

Matty likes media attention.

His words don't need to make sense, or be intelligent, or anything. They just need to elicit a response. Good or bad, it doesn't matter to him.

Happy Hoosier

(7,401 posts)
43. Obesity does not cause diabetes.
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 04:11 PM
Apr 2022

Insulin resistance causes Type II Diabetes. High insulin levels also promote obesity.

They are associated, but obesity does NOT cause T2 diabetes.

Massive intake of carbohydrates, including refined sugars, "grazing" style eating (which promotes a continuous high level of insulin), and the intake of processed seed oils that promote inflammation all contribute to insulin resistance.

Wanna clobber Type 2 diabetes? Cut out as much added sugar as possible, and drastically cut carbohydrates, especially refined carbs.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
35. I wonder what all of those obese Floridian Trump followers think of Gaetz's fat shaming assertions?
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 08:34 AM
Apr 2022

It's rather bizarre to me all through the debates of passing Obama Care (before and after) these effed up psychopathic Republican office holders in Congress act like most if not all of their constituents live well and are in perfect health.

But whenever I see pictures of those that turn out in rally's and such, the majority of rally attendees are significantly overweight to varying degrees, but most assuredly morbidly obese.

I never understand it. Do they applause these outrageous and obviously stupid lies?

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
36. This theory was developed during a cocaine orgie at Matt's house.
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 08:59 AM
Apr 2022

Five minutes after Matt packed his nose.
What a puke.

Luciferous

(6,086 posts)
44. I think the blame goes to greedy pharmaceutical companies, not sick people who need the
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 08:40 PM
Apr 2022

medicine to survive.

Deminpenn

(15,290 posts)
47. It only takes a virus or bacteria to attack your pancreas
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 12:55 PM
Apr 2022

and make you an insulin-dependent diabetic no matter your body size or type or family history of disease.

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