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AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 08:42 PM Apr 2022

F.B.I. Preparing to Investigate How Classified Material Went to Trump's Home

Source: NY Times

WASHINGTON — Federal authorities are in the preliminary stages of investigating the handling of classified material found at former President Donald J. Trump’s Florida home after he left office, people familiar with the matter said on Thursday.

The effort, led by the F.B.I., stems from the discovery of classified information in 15 boxes that contained documents, mementos, gifts and letters that had been taken from the White House at the end of Mr. Trump’s term in apparent violation of the requirements for turning over all presidential records to the National Archives.

The development was reported earlier by The Washington Post.

The National Archives said in February that it had consulted with the Justice Department about the classified material, which it retrieved the previous month from Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home in Florida. The agency described the materials in question as “classified national security information.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/07/us/trump-classified-information.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

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F.B.I. Preparing to Investigate How Classified Material Went to Trump's Home (Original Post) AZProgressive Apr 2022 OP
But.... Hillary's emails!!!! garybeck Apr 2022 #1
Sorry, but I don't trust the FBI Cozmo Apr 2022 #2
Can't say I trust them either and I am not sorry. twodogsbarking Apr 2022 #18
It's run by a Trump appointee. The contraband was discovered in FEBRUARY. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #28
MF45 probably gave the best stuff to Putin, FoxNewsSucks Apr 2022 #3
no he didn't..the orange cretin agingdem Apr 2022 #9
While we wait ... dweller Apr 2022 #4
Hope there is something damning in the records. Love letters with Kim Jung Un Hoyt Apr 2022 #5
Probably to Putin: "Should I get on my knees or just bend over?" oldsoftie Apr 2022 #20
Documents with the highest security clearances just hanging around to be Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #21
They need to tell us what is in the documents. What do you think trump was going to do with them Hoyt Apr 2022 #33
There is no way to answer that unless someone looks at them. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #34
They've had them for 2 months. What the hell have they been doing? Having them in his house isn't Hoyt Apr 2022 #35
The two months is not proof of anything. January 6 was 16 months ago and nothing has happened. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #37
I'm saying this is another bombshell that has/will fizzle. I'm over trump, he lost. Screw him. Hoyt Apr 2022 #39
Sadly, none of us is over trump. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #40
None of the "I can't live, and Democracy is over, if trump is not indicted" crowd Hoyt Apr 2022 #41
You have completely - and I think intentionally - missed my point, but have a nice day. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #45
"Oh, yeah, that... We'll get right on it." RockRaven Apr 2022 #6
Maybe there is more. They should go search Moron Lago again. twodogsbarking Apr 2022 #7
Some of the classified material was the highest classification, gab13by13 Apr 2022 #8
Butter Emails IronLionZion Apr 2022 #10
Protecting upper class crooks for peace and safety bucolic_frolic Apr 2022 #11
"Golly, however did THIS come to pass???" Grokenstein Apr 2022 #12
How did they find out that the documents etc. had been sent there? Princess Turandot Apr 2022 #13
yet to be revealed RussBLib Apr 2022 #14
Theft, that's how. sarcasmo Apr 2022 #15
"F.B.I. Preparing to Investigate How Classified Material Went to Trump's Home" Botany Apr 2022 #16
Lock the Republican Traitor-in-Chief UP Achilleaze Apr 2022 #17
Obviously the deranged, radical left wing liberals twodogsbarking Apr 2022 #19
They'll slow-walk this too. yardwork Apr 2022 #22
How did it get to his home? louis-t Apr 2022 #23
TDFG has had plenty of time to auction the best stuff. NCjack Apr 2022 #24
I'm admitting my ignorance about classified material. But I thought I read somewhere presidents... usaf-vet Apr 2022 #25
How? Mz Pip Apr 2022 #26
"Preparing to Investigate..." "...stages of investigating..." dchill Apr 2022 #27
I wuz just fixin' to start thinkin' about plannin' to do sumpin' about it. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #29
There you go! Exactly! dchill Apr 2022 #30
How will there ever be an investigation (or report) ... dchill Apr 2022 #31
Preparing to Investigate... got it. msfiddlestix Apr 2022 #32
Oh noes! Not more investigations.. angrychair Apr 2022 #36
There was an old saying I learned while visiting relatives in Communist Poland in KPN Apr 2022 #44
Putin gave it all back to Trump after he lost the election. twodogsbarking Apr 2022 #38
Preliminary stages of investigating?? Puh-lease. The FBI's slow drag bias is showing. ancianita Apr 2022 #42
Preparing to investigate?! JHC! KPN Apr 2022 #43
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lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
28. It's run by a Trump appointee. The contraband was discovered in FEBRUARY.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 10:38 AM
Apr 2022

WTF has the FBI been doing about this between February and April? Waiting for the statute of limitations to expire?

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
9. no he didn't..the orange cretin
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 09:06 PM
Apr 2022

intends to display the top secret docs in his donor-fleeced presidential library...

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Hope there is something damning in the records. Love letters with Kim Jung Un
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 08:55 PM
Apr 2022

— or boxes movers took by mistake, whether true or trump’s explanation — ain’t going to look good.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
21. Documents with the highest security clearances just hanging around to be
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 08:20 AM
Apr 2022

picked up by the movers by mistake?

They aren't sitting around in old liquor boxes in the garage. This wasn't a movers' mistake.

The mere fact of those documents existing outside secure locations is damning. The damn is already cooked in.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
33. They need to tell us what is in the documents. What do you think trump was going to do with them
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 10:59 AM
Apr 2022

a year later, when the security aspect was likely of no value.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
34. There is no way to answer that unless someone looks at them.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 11:07 AM
Apr 2022

And no, they really don't need to tell us what is in them if they are of the highest security designation.

The crime is in their presence in tfg's house.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
35. They've had them for 2 months. What the hell have they been doing? Having them in his house isn't
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 11:19 AM
Apr 2022

going to get trump unless there was something in them.

My guess is that if there was something damning in the records, we would have heard about it.

If they are "high security" -- which is questionable -- officials can say trump had documents that showed where every missile and bomb is stored in the USA and he had been trying to sell it to Putin, China, Iran, etc. Yeah, they've got him. But I doubt that is what was stuck in the closet.


Remember Sandy Berger--

Sandy Berger-2003

Fifty-eight year old Sandy Berger, the former National Security Adviser under the Clinton Administration, illegally took classified documents from the National Archives on more than one occasion. During his visits to the Archives, it was determined that Berger folded the documents in his clothes, walked out of the National Archives building in Washington, D.C., and placed them under a nearby construction trailer for retrieval later on. Two years later Berger was sentenced to 100 hours of community service and probation and fined $50,000. He also also had to pay $6,905 for the administrative costs of his two-year probation. Berger also lost his security clearance and license to practice law.
________

Gotta admit, I'd settle for seeing trump in an orange vest picking up trash along the interstates.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
37. The two months is not proof of anything. January 6 was 16 months ago and nothing has happened.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 11:36 AM
Apr 2022

And Sandy Berger took a handful of documents.

But anyway, what are you saying? Is this another area where you think we should move on whistling, as if nothing happened?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
39. I'm saying this is another bombshell that has/will fizzle. I'm over trump, he lost. Screw him.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 11:52 AM
Apr 2022
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
41. None of the "I can't live, and Democracy is over, if trump is not indicted" crowd
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:57 PM
Apr 2022

are over trump.

I am, he lost, but he keeps winning as Democrats eat their own— Bragg, Garland, etc.

Sorry, I’m not letting that MFer keep me up at night. Learned my lesson with Fitzmas. There are issues that are more important in this country, other than trump.

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
8. Some of the classified material was the highest classification,
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 08:58 PM
Apr 2022

meaning if it fell into the wrong hands it would be a threat to our national security. After a month or so it's nice that DOJ found the time to do a preliminary investigation. WTF.

What about looking for the missing classified documents?

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
11. Protecting upper class crooks for peace and safety
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 09:13 PM
Apr 2022

HOW did the items get there? They were - follow me - STOLEN!

Can you believe it? They didn't walk there all by their baby selves. Santa and the Tooth Fairy didn't deliver them.

They were light-fingered! Grand larceny of national secrets. Theft.

Update: And note the tentative headline. "Preparing". Not actually doing it, just thinking about it. And the items traveled there of their own volition. Like the FBI doesn't want to touch this with a 10 foot pole, so don't expect too much out of it. WHAT ARE THEY HIDING? WHO ARE THEY PROTECTING? Why the weak effort??

Grokenstein

(5,723 posts)
12. "Golly, however did THIS come to pass???"
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 09:26 PM
Apr 2022

I'll take "Things You'll Never Hear a Cop Say When YOU Get Caught Red-Handed" for five million, Alex.

RussBLib

(9,011 posts)
14. yet to be revealed
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 09:48 PM
Apr 2022

that Orange Ass needs to suffer some real consequences for lifting Classified docs. I trust he will.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
16. "F.B.I. Preparing to Investigate How Classified Material Went to Trump's Home"
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 04:34 AM
Apr 2022

Ah, he illegally took it. End of story.

BTW I guarantee a lot had to do w/ Trump & Russia and other material he passed onto Vlad Putin.

usaf-vet

(6,186 posts)
25. I'm admitting my ignorance about classified material. But I thought I read somewhere presidents...
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 10:02 AM
Apr 2022

... are empowered to declassify any classified material they choose.

If this is true, how long before TFG claims he declassified all 15 boxes.

Mz Pip

(27,445 posts)
26. How?
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 10:11 AM
Apr 2022

It’s pretty straightforward. He told his movers to put those boxes in the van and no one stopped them.

dchill

(38,492 posts)
27. "Preparing to Investigate..." "...stages of investigating..."
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 10:21 AM
Apr 2022

Just wait until I get done preliminating!!! Then you'll see!!!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
29. I wuz just fixin' to start thinkin' about plannin' to do sumpin' about it.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 10:41 AM
Apr 2022

Just as soon as the mid-terms are over...

dchill

(38,492 posts)
31. How will there ever be an investigation (or report) ...
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 10:47 AM
Apr 2022

...about what they DON'T find in the probably moldy and dusty boxes of "evidence?"

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
36. Oh noes! Not more investigations..
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 11:30 AM
Apr 2022

This Kabuki theater is getting old. So far the FBI/DOJ plan to deal with trump and his inner circle is:

1) say your investigating

2) pretend to shuffle papers until press find another shinny object

3) insist "no one is above the law" to those few still paying attention/asking about accountability. Show no work or progress.

4) still do nothing but shuffle papers

5) quietly end investigation. Blame some non-specific reason that no one can do anything about it.

6) run out the clock on statute of limitations on even minor charges.

This is a rich, connected, old white man's world. People like me don't matter.

KPN

(15,645 posts)
44. There was an old saying I learned while visiting relatives in Communist Poland in
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:13 PM
Apr 2022

the 1970's; "we pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us".

Here in the US with the DOJ these days it seems more like: "we pretend to work, and they pay us." We being the DOJ.

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