Energy Minister: Russian soldiers who were in Chornobyl have a year to live at most

[Native]

Source: Pravda (UA)

According to Energy Minister Herman Galushchenko, all the soldiers who have been to the Exclusion Zone have received large doses of radiation, and their military equipment has also been contaminated, the Ministry’s press service reports.

"The Russian soldiers’ ignorance went as far off the scale as the dosimeters we used to check the background radiation in the places where the invaders were deployed. They dug into contaminated soil with their bare hands, put radioactive sand into bags for fortifications, and inhaled the dust. After a month of that kind of exposure, they have at most a year to live. Or rather, they won’t be living, but slowly dying of their illnesses," said the minister.

He said the Russian military had looted the plant and the administrative offices, taking everything from crockery to spare parts and instruments.

"It’s not just all of the occupiers’ troops and their ‘trophies’ that are contaminated. So is all the military equipment that has passed through Chornobyl – about 10,000 items. Every Russian soldier will bring a piece of Chornobyl home, whether he’s alive or dead," Galushchenko said.

Read more: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/04/8/7338211/

[LiberalFighter]

1. I for one don't have any sympathy for them.

[GB_RN]

2. I'm Reminded Of An Old Joke...

"Nuke 'em 'till they glow and shoot 'em in the dark."

Sounds like there will be a lot of glowing Russian troops and equipment that can be used as night lights/street lights for a little while.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

4. I suppose their little corpses will glow!

[lagomorph777]

8. No doubt their families will get sick too.

Brilliant move, Poo Tin.

[GB_RN]

13. Quite Possibly...

If they take home "trophies" that are sufficiently contaminated, they're going to have a real mess on their hands.

[Karma13612]

20. Good one!

Yea, I’ve been calling him “Poo in a Tin” for a few years now. He is the worst excuse for a human I can think of. His best bud TFG comes in neck and neck with him. They both deserve to be in a jail cell with no possible way to commit suicide. Let them rot until they expire.

And we should have jail-cams available online for ANYONE to just sit and watch them 24/7

I am serious. I think that would be a great punishment for these two inhuman monsters. I also think it would provide those who have suffered at the hands of their actions to have some sort of closure and catharsis.

[Gilbert Moore]

63. Family members exposure

The type of radiation sickness wouldn't be transferred to those not given initial exposure unless clothes were brought back that weren't laundered. Even then, the family members dose would be less than lethal unless they inhaled lots and lots ofdirt / dust from clothes.

[wnylib]

52. Let's hope that none of that equipment

is among the items that Ukrainians have managed to rip off from the Russians.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

3. Will their skin fall off, like in the miniseries? Probably not...

But they'll be in a world of pain, nonetheless.



Fuck Russia.

[GB_RN]

9. Not Strictly Speaking, No...

But their hair will fall out and the lining of their digestive tract will slough off (which is what causes all the nausea/vomiting when you get chemo), teeth will come loose in the sockets/fall out, bone and blood cancers can develop quickly, etc., etc.

If skin came off of people at the Chernobyl incident, it was probably from severe radiation and/or heat burns melting the skin. This happened in the firebombing of Tokyo Japan (I know for a fact), and from the flash of the nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, IIRC.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

16. Yeah, it was the first responders, firefighters mostly...

Walking amongst the graphite fragments of the core, apparently with no one around to tell them how deadly it was.
They were all gone in like two weeks.
These idiots will last a while longer.

[irisblue]

5. Radiation exposure is an awful way to die. Hisashi Ouchi is the example

Wiki-Tokaimura nuclear accident
nuclear accident

[RussellCattle]

31. Just read the Wiki account of his death. Horrible. His body was so radioactive that it created.....

.....mutations in the stem cells he was given to try to restore his immune system.

[paleotn]

58. Reminds me of "tickling the dragon's tail" and the demon core.

Dahglian and Slotin knew they were dead men walking after two separate accidents with the plutonium demon core. Their passing wasn't pretty. There are very few worse ways to die.

[Warpy]

64. Yeah, :just jam a screwdriver under it, what could go wrong?"

It's one of my favorite stories of science gone horribly wrong because some guy in a hurry wanted to cut corners. My favorite part of the report about the whole thing is in the last sentence here:

An ambulance was called, and the lab was mostly evacuated. As the scientists waited for help to arrive, they tried to work out how much radiation they had received. Slotin made a sketch of where everyone had been standing when the slip occurred. He then tried to use a radiation detector on various items that were near the core—a bristle brush, an empty Coca-Cola bottle, a hammer, a measuring tape. But it proved difficult to get an accurate reading, because the detector itself had been heavily contaminated. Slotin instructed one of his colleagues to lay radioactivity-detecting film badges around the area, which required the scientist to go dangerously close to the still overheated core. The errand resulted in no useful data, and was mentioned in a later report as evidence that, after an exposure of this magnitude, human beings “are in no condition for rational behavior.”

And that wasn't the only time it killed people.

[brachism]

61. Some details... WARNING, some may find pictures upsetting

Details

https://icantbelieveitsnonfiction.com/2018/02/14/hisashi-ouchi-and-masato-shinohara/

[sir pball]

78. They kept him alive to try experimental treatments. Shades of Unit 731.

On the 59th day of his admission, the now nearly lifeless body of Ouchi suffered three heart attacks in under an hour. The doctors of the hospital resuscitated him after every hear failure, prolonging his pain. Only on the 83rd day after his admission would the technician die of multiple organ failure.

WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES

https://historyofyesterday.com/the-man-kept-alive-against-his-will-647c7a24784

[onecaliberal]

6. Play deadly games, win deadly prizes.

[Starfury]

7. Looks like we'll have serious contenders for next year's Darwin awards...

I know I'm supposed to feel sympathy here, but I don't think that's going to happen...

[irisblue]

12. Pretty good bet they will not be producing sperm. Those guys are out of the gene pool, forever

[paleotn]

59. Like most soldiers, they were probably young kids who didn't know any better.

Weren't told by their chain of command. Russia has always treated its soldiers like cannon fodder. There's always more serfs. What a country. And people wonder why I'm a bit of a Russaphobe.

[Deep State Witch]

10. F**k around with nukes

You find out.

[doc03]

11. I am confused Pravda has always been called the Russian state news agency. All the headlines are

anti-Russia. Are they now publishing from a different country Ukraine or some other country?

[wishstar]

22. "Pravda UA" is a Ukrainian news outlet started in Ukraine in 2000

It is not connected to Pravda Russia. The word pravda means "truth"

[LiberalLovinLug]

75. "The word pravda means "truth"

Trump should call his new platform "Pravda Social"

[Native]

23. This is a Ukrainian online newspaper. Has nothing to do with Russia.

[doc03]

24. Thanks that explains it nt

[Hekate]

25. I'm also confused. It sounds like the Russian Minister was saying this, but how on earth?

And just out of an abundance of caution, I think I won’t be clicking on the link to Pravda.

OTOH — what the Minister is saying is consistent with what we know about how radioactive Chernobyl is. Those young men were sent there by old men who knew damn well (or should have known) that they were being sent to their deaths. Which is another layer of war crimes.

[Native]

29. He is Ukraine's Minister of Energy. This is a Ukrainian news source.

It has nothing to do with Pravda, the state controlled Russian newspaper. You also don't have to worry about clicking on pravda.ru (not connected to the Communist party).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pravda

[Hekate]

38. Thank you for clearing that up

[Igel]

57. The Russia Pravda also has scant connection with the state.

It had internal problems, split, and for a while, at least, was sort of like "News of the World" or the National Inquirer.

TASS and RIA are the official bearers of Russian neuz.

[pecosbob]

14. Eff around and bring home unwanted souvenirs

[SKKY]

15. The fucked around and found out.

I don't wish bad things for them, but I don't wish them well either.

[BootinUp]

17. They earned it. Nt

[Jarqui]

18. I hope they all realize, before they die, that Vlad needs a

ride in their vehicle and a good long hug from each of them.

[Emile]

19. What the hell were they doing there anyways?

[Warpy]

21. I'm wondering just how many are showing the early signs

of GI problems, hair loss, and skin discoloration. I know the detail that dug those trenches have to be.

Of course, Putin will start shrieking about chemical weapons or something. No, dear, it was your stupidity and that of your generals who did this to them.

They will never admit the awful truth. We know it, but the Russians won't.

[jmbar2]

26. They are already sick from it

This article last week said that they were already being treated in Belarus. Not good.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/unprotected-russian-soldiers-disturbed-radioactive-dust-chernobyls-red-forest-2022-03-28/

[mopinko]

27. suspect those guys arent going home, home.

they'll want to hide that shit.

either that or, as mentioned above, come up w some story to blame it on ukr.

[Earthrise]

28. The article is in the English version of Pravda -

I wonder if it appears in the Russian version and whether the article is available to Russian citizens.

That's one hell of an admission.

[herding cats]

73. It's a Ukrainian online source. Not affiliated with Russia or it's official Pravada.

Two entirely separate entities.

[VGNonly]

30. Long term nuclear waste.

UMTRA, the Uranium Mill Tailings Remedial Action project near Moab UT will cost $750 million to clean up. As bad as that is, the Hanford Site in Washington will cost more than $100 billion. It will take about 20 years to complete.

[Backseat Driver]

47. Read generally about the Superfund Site, Fernald Feed Materials Production Center in SW OH

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernald_Feed_Materials_Production_Center#:~:text=The%20plant%20was%20located%20in%20the%20rural%20town,was%20accessible%20to%20the%20other%20main%20AEC%20sites.

Just surface clean up was an $4.4 billion (estimated from back in the 90s) effort that was transformed into a nature preserve as it will never again be habitable by humans and will require monitoring for the on-going future.

[Backseat Driver]

48. Was Mystery @ Blind Frog Ranch (reality show) nearby?

I know I got a kick out of that silliness - how will I ever get that time back, LOL!

[Bayard]

32. Where did they go after they left Chornobyl?

Did they roll into Ukrainian towns? Thinking about civilians being exposed.

[Codifer]

34. North, I think.

I have the sense that (or I think I read or heard) that they withdrew to Belarus to regroup. What ever the case they will probably redeploy to eastern Ukraine.

Of late, I am not certain what I know or think I know.

[getagrip_already]

56. They were sent to a mlitary hospital, but it wasn't clear where.....

The story I saw just said they were receiving treatment. Probably iodine ills. Not much of a treatment. Most likely just isolation somewhere remote.

[Mr. Evil]

33. I have no sympathy at all for those stupid idiots.

Anyone born in Russia after the Chernobyl accident was probably never taught about it. After the fall of the USSR in 1991 it most likely officially became Ukraine's problem. Those dipshits probably didn't have a clue where they were or what Chernobyl was/is. Well, they're going to know now for the rest of their short-ass lives.

This is just another example of what happens and can happen when you try to run a society based on lies. Those murderers and kiddie rapers are going to die a horrible death and that, I will drink to. They are getting just what they deserve. Fuck them!

[Native]

35. The gift that keeps on giving!

I was going to post that as a comment attached to my op, but I thought surely someone else would post that sentiment....

[Liberty Belle]

36. I hope none of their tanks were towed by Ukrainian farmers into their towns to contaminate others.

[wnylib]

60. That was my concern, too. I think that Ukranians would

know better than to tow them from anywhere near Chernobyl, but what if those tanks were used again by Russians in other areas beyond Chernobyl?

[Farmer-Rick]

37. OMG

The Russians used conscripts in the Red Forest and didn't tell them that it was a nuclear diaster area. The forced Ukrainian workers said the soldiers hadn't heard about the nuclear meltdown.

One of the workers reported that the Russian soldiers couldn't understand why the trees were red. Geez, and they forced the Ukrainian workers (in the safe zone) to work in the office 24/7 because the Russian convoys driving through a literal red forest didn't know what they were doing. Putin using slave labor already?

Then those radioactive Convoys went out into Ukraine cities. All those weapons and equipment are deadly just by standing next to them. Those men breathed in contaminated dust from the red forest the most radioactive area in Chernobyl.

Wow, just wow. How could Putin and his Generals have done this to their own soldiers? Did Putin send the Wagner unit through the red forest too? I kinda hope so. Then he won't have to pay them.

Man, Putin is treating his own soldiers like disposable waste.

[Native]

41. The Ukrainian workers at the reactor told the soldiers how dangerous it was.

[kairos12]

39. They dug their own graves. Convenient. Thanks.

[Native]

40. +1

[SergeStorms]

42. So, what's the bad news?

I hope they found a nice trophy for Putin's office, or better yet, a nice sweater or pair of shoes.

Vladimir Putin is the lowest human being on the planet. I wish him a slow, excruciating death. Soon.

[vlyons]

43. I feel sorry for them.

All that contaminated crap they looted, which will end up in the homes of their families and friends, in Russian flea markets, in pawn shops.

Those poor stupid boys.

Very sad.

[halfulglas]

44. Do they still bury the head separate from the body?

That's apparently what they did in the earlier days with nuclear poisoning accidents here in the US. I can't remember where I heard that (I think in the 70s or 80s, so it was a long time ago).

[BigmanPigman]

45. I said, "GREAT" when I just heard this in CNN.

Too bad all of their soldiers don't have to travel through that area coming out of Ukraine into Russia as they retreat. The more the better. I hope they all suffer more than the Ukrainians who they butchered. Karma.

[patphil]

46. This is the price paid for a nation that controls the flow of information.

Those Russian soldiers probably weren't taught about what happened in Chernobyl when they were in school.
Even their officers appear to have been entirely clueless as to the threat the radiation at that site was to them.

There's a site that you should see:

http://www.kiddofspeed.com/

It's about one person's motorcycle trips into Chernobyl; it's amazing, and tragic.

[CaptainTruth]

49. When they go low, sometimes they glow.

Thanks... I'll see myself out...

[BigmanPigman]

50. Too bad all the Russian troops don't have to go through

there at some point in the war.

[70sEraVet]

51. I will reserve judgement on whether those soldiers are deserving of their painful deaths

Young conscripts, little education, orders from cold blooded superiors.
It reminds me of my General Quarters drill assignment back in the Navy 50 years ago, in preparation for a nuclear attack. I was on the 'bucket of hot soapy water and sponge' detail. My assignment was to go out on deck and wash off radioactive particles.

[70sEraVet]

55. But, as a disclaimer, we weren't responsible for the murders of innocent civilians.

[thenelm1]

65. I have the same opinion to a degree. I'm reminded of any number of stories I've read...

on how the Soviets prosecuted their war against the Germans in WWII. The leadership would try and overwhelm the German lines by sending in thousands of massed infantry, mostly all young conscripts, little education, etc., with the Commissar troops behind them with orders to kill anyone who attempted to turn back. In the early years, the ill-trained conscripts were dead no matter what. Killed or captured by the Germans if they continued into the determined defense or by their own countrymen if they retreated. The Soviets were as vicious to their own men as they were the Germans. The Germans deserved what they got, their own troops? (The total numbers of Soviet military dead and missing from that war are still not known with any certainty. The totals vary from anywhere around nine million to upwards of 21 million...)

While there is a very long way to go to get to anywhere near those numbers, it would seem that the general attitude of the Putin gov't as regards the welfare of their troops hasn't really changed all that much from the days of Stalin.

[3825-87867]

53. Remember when the Russians and Fox said

that Ukraine was using chemical weapons? Probably some of the Russians started showing signs of radiation poisoning and Tucker and Company ran with the propaganda?

I think Fox (Murdoch) should send his crack team of anchor people over to report for themselves. We all know they're just wanting to go! Tucker on the front lines. Probably ASK where the nearest latrine was...if he could make it that far.

[RicROC]

54. Most of those Russian soldiers were young people.

I'm suspecting that over the next year, there will be an increase of mutations and birth defects in the progeny of these men and women.

[Martin68]

66. Karma is a Bitch!

[BrightKnight]

67. They "captured" the security staff and left it unprotected.

They were astonishingly irresponsible on a lot of levels.

Stupid can get you killed.

[TomWilm]

68. BS. There is not enough radiation left in the soil to die by anymore ...

Only way to release some radiation would be to burn wood from the contaminated forest and willfully inhale a lot of the smoke. Even then it would just give them a slightly higher risk of developing cancer.

Lots of animals are still living in that red soil around Chernobyl. Over their lifetime the do generate some mutation changes, but not anything visible or lethal.

[Native]

69. They were exposed for a full month & dug trenches with their bare hands.

And filled sacks of dirt with their bare hands. The levels increased dramatically just from vehicles moving thru the area. The soil is very contaminated, and they stirred it up and inhaled quite a bit. The experts disagree with you.

[TomWilm]

71. Let us wait for real independent experts ...

I have read a lot of BS about this, since we are all rightfully scared of radiation. But the International Atomic Energy Agency has politely contradicted most of the propaganda coming from the parties in this war.

I am quite sure they will conclude the same way after investigations, because it is extremely rare to "die within a year" from exposure to nuclear radiation. Even the rescue workers who drained out the radioactive containment pools during the Chernobyl incident survived and lived on for years!

[TheRickles]

77. Thank you.

[Blues Heron]

70. there is still half the Cesium 137 and Strontium 90 - the half life is about 30 years

They say dont wander off the path when in the zone, and definitely dont be digging. You are right though - a little radiation can give you a healthy glow - just dont overdo it or you wont last long!

[brooklynite]

74. Just a thought: some of that military equipment could be sitting on a Ukrainian road...

...or in someone's farm.

[llashram]

76. oh well

and does anyone think putin cares?