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Omaha Steve

(99,642 posts)
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 08:07 AM Apr 2022

Amazon says landmark Staten Island union vote should be thrown out

Source: NY Times

The company listed a series of complaints against an upstart union’s organizing efforts. Both Amazon and another union noted objections to another vote in Alabama.

By Karen Weise

Amazon objected on Friday to a landmark union election at its Staten Island fulfillment center, saying an upstart union’s unorthodox tactics there crossed legal lines, according to a copy of its filing to the National Labor Relations Board obtained by The New York Times.

The company argued that the result should be thrown out because the labor board had conducted the election in a way that favored the union and members of the union had coerced workers into supporting their cause.

In the final tally last Friday, workers cast 2,654 votes to be represented by the Amazon Labor Union and 2,131 voted against it, giving the union a win by 11 percentage points.

The result of another Amazon election, at a warehouse in Alabama, is also being challenged by both the company and a union seeking to represent workers there, according to filings submitted late Thursday. That union argued that the problems “both separately and cumulatively constitute grounds to set the election aside,” but Amazon stopped short of calling for the result to be tossed. The union trails in the initial tally.



Workers in line to cast ballots last month at Amazon’s fullfillment center on Staten Island, where they voted to join a union. The company objected to the resuit in a filing on Friday.Credit...DeSean McClinton-Holland for The New York Times

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/08/business/amazon-alabama-union-vote-objections.html

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oldsoftie

(12,548 posts)
1. And how many here will keep that "Prime" membership & getting boxes every day?
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 08:32 AM
Apr 2022

I quit using Amazon many years ago after seeing how they affected local businesses & controlled those selling on their site. Then comes the ridiculous "contract drivers" to make my point even better. Add to it all the money they pour into Chinese slave workers
I have used them as a search engine to find a particular item I couldn't find locally. But then I buy from the actual seller.

STOP USING AMAZON.

Akoto

(4,266 posts)
15. I will. They get medical stuff for my disability at prices I can afford. Sorry.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 03:45 PM
Apr 2022

People need to realize, on this and any other subject where they demand someone stop using X business or supporting Y individual, there may be very real and serious reasons we can't take such stands and to suggest we support everything wrong being done because we continue to do business is not fair.

I would challenge you to find a single business out there that is 100% ethical in everything it does and can in no way be further improved. If you can't, then we're all held to this Amazon standard and all business must cease. I'd bet cash you can't.

oldsoftie

(12,548 posts)
16. 100%? Of course not. But it takes a bit to reach the level of impact Amazon has.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 05:06 PM
Apr 2022

As for you, medicine is in its own league IMO. We HAVE to have medication. We DONT have to have that lamp or blanket for a dollar cheaper

2naSalit

(86,634 posts)
4. Aww, is Jeffy having a sad?
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 08:53 AM
Apr 2022

I have NEVER used Amazon for anything and I plan to never go there for any reason.

F'ck Bezos and his gargantuan ego.

Farmer-Rick

(10,175 posts)
5. Well, of course they are going to complain.
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 09:25 AM
Apr 2022

Capitalism demands that workers be abused for some already filthy rich a**hole to get richer. Capitalism, the next best economy since slavery.

Bezos, preventing democracy everywhere especially at the workplace.

Magoo48

(4,711 posts)
17. Like Bucky suggested many moons ago:
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 08:45 AM
Apr 2022

It’s tough to fight them; we must find ways to make the morbidly rich irrelevant. (Paraphrasing)

Farmer-Rick

(10,175 posts)
18. Morbidly Rich
Sun Apr 10, 2022, 09:04 AM
Apr 2022

Good way of describing it. If they treated food like they treat our national wealth, they would be morbidly obese.

I think of it as hoarders, with houses stuffed with trash, or pet hoarders who have over 50 cats. They are wealth hoarders just like the trash hoarders. Only because we worship capital, we don't see it for what it is.

KS Toronado

(17,242 posts)
7. I'm shocked it was an 11% difference
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 09:46 AM
Apr 2022

with New York being a blue state, thought it would have been higher.
Appears Amazon is the one who coerced workers.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
9. New York State is blue for sure BUT
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 09:55 AM
Apr 2022

There is quite a large section of Red in Staten Island. Not sure the dynamics of that, but it might have kept the percentage for union low.

paleotn

(17,918 posts)
13. Staten Island is the "red borough"
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 10:24 AM
Apr 2022

Won by Trump in 2020. It's like Orange County in the greater LA area. Not Alabama levels of stupid, but by no means blue.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
8. I have severed all ties with Amazon
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 09:50 AM
Apr 2022

Prime, credit card, and online buying-selling accounts. They are NOT a necessity, merely a convenience. And very often, convenience comes at a price that goes well beyond cost. Jeff can get his yacht money elsewhere. In the meantime, I wish the union organizers the best of luck, given the union-busting tactics they are faced with.

JohnSJ

(92,192 posts)
10. It won't be thrown out. They are using the same reason the union wanted a do over in Alabama
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 10:05 AM
Apr 2022

It isn’t going to happen

The National Labor Relations Board will not rule in favor of Amazon


JohnSJ

(92,192 posts)
11. Just for information purposes, Bezos no longer runs Amazon. He left in July 2021
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 10:08 AM
Apr 2022

It is someone named Andrew Jassy

paleotn

(17,918 posts)
12. "members of the union had coerced workers"? Oh, that's rich...
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 10:18 AM
Apr 2022

After spending nearly my entire career in management within "the bowels of corporate America", that's funny as hell. Like companies haven't been doing exactly that for ages, and far worse. Seen it with my own eyes. What Amazon should have filed was..."They can't do that! That's OUR job!!"

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
14. Amazon should be required to pay all back taxes since it's inception....
Sat Apr 9, 2022, 12:39 PM
Apr 2022

how's that for a complaint....so making employees watch and hear anti-union BS is just fine and dandy....FU Amazon, seriously FU, you broke the backs of mom and pop institutions when it came to books.....you had no problem doing that just cutting and gutting the middle small businesses...again FU......go to the end of the line.....and has for the scab state of Alabama more threatening and intimidation tactic's at play....

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