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speak easy

(9,259 posts)
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 06:26 PM Apr 2022

More than 20 countries will meet to assess Ukrainian military's needs

Source: Washington Post

Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said Friday that more than 20 countries already have agreed to participate in a “consultative” meeting next week at Ramstein Air Base in Germany. Defense ministers and senior military officers from the United States and partner nations will discuss what long-term assistance Ukraine’s military needs to remain potent, including after the war with Russia.

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin does not have a specific outcome in mind for the meeting, first announced Thursday, Kirby said.

“He’s not going into this meeting on Tuesday with a preset list of things that we have to drive to,” Kirby said. “He wants to hear from allies and partners, and from the Ukrainians themselves about what they are doing and what they will need going forward.

Kirby said the meeting is not meant to get security guarantees for Ukraine.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/22/russia-ukraine-war-news-mariupol-live-updates/#link-L6VTXQCHXRHDNK322MMY5HCTBM

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More than 20 countries will meet to assess Ukrainian military's needs (Original Post) speak easy Apr 2022 OP
Great news ! The West will never get a better chance. OnDoutside Apr 2022 #1
Someday an own goal will be knows as 'a putin' speak easy Apr 2022 #2
Planes and tanks LiberalLovinLug Apr 2022 #3
Heavy artillery/ammo, troop carriers and SAMs speak easy Apr 2022 #4
A clandestine factor. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2022 #5
Another thing that differentiates the Russian Army from the Red Army speak easy Apr 2022 #6
Zelenskii has TOLD them what he needs, many, many times. for WEEKS !!! HUAJIAO Apr 2022 #7
Yes. And the point of the conference to to co-ordinate speak easy Apr 2022 #8
We agree.. I didn't know about the Mig-29s. HUAJIAO Apr 2022 #9
The MiGs? speak easy Apr 2022 #10
Another example - Norway ships air defence system to Ukraine speak easy Apr 2022 #11
A-10 Warthog should be on list Pachamama Apr 2022 #12
What are these Warthogs of which you speak? cuddly kittens? :hi: speak easy Apr 2022 #13
Much better than that Pachamama Apr 2022 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author speak easy Apr 2022 #15
oh my ... would the Warthogs need an escort in Ukraine ... speak easy Apr 2022 #16
Nope - they are the escorts o the Ground troops Pachamama Apr 2022 #17
I am an ordinary man speak easy Apr 2022 #18

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
5. A clandestine factor.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:50 AM
Apr 2022

The backstory that's being executed right now is the intelligence-gathering shared by western alliances and UKR. Ukrainian military commanders likely are being fed information on Russian troop movements around-the-clock. And because a large slice of the Russian Army is reluctant to fight, it's safe to assume that it's a rich environment to recruit informants. So there may already be a contingent of the military who are informing others of officer movements. This is how the Russians will be defeated, IMO. They will crumble from within.

speak easy

(9,259 posts)
6. Another thing that differentiates the Russian Army from the Red Army
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:08 AM
Apr 2022

is the pervasive corruption. How do you police it when the FSB is on the take?

HUAJIAO

(2,386 posts)
7. Zelenskii has TOLD them what he needs, many, many times. for WEEKS !!!
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 10:31 AM
Apr 2022

They need to open their ears. Stop talking so much and get as move on.

Ukrainians are fighting and dying for all of us!

speak easy

(9,259 posts)
8. Yes. And the point of the conference to to co-ordinate
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 10:41 AM
Apr 2022

who will be supplying what Ukraine needs. 200 tons of ammunition are heading from Spain now for example. MiG-29s are mysteriously turning up at Ukraine airbases. Howitzers are arriving - as are armored troop carriers. Ukraine now has more tanks than the Russians.

The delays are unconscionable, but better than never.

speak easy

(9,259 posts)
11. Another example - Norway ships air defence system to Ukraine
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 11:05 AM
Apr 2022

Norway has shipped approximately 100 Mistral air defence missiles, and multiple launchers, to Ukraine..
https://www.army-technology.com/news/norway-mistral-ukraine/

The outrageous thing is that Ukrainians could have started training on western weapons two months ago. The Brits, for example, had people in Ukraine trying them on NLAWS in January.

Here is something else. Ukraine want to being training it's pilots on F-15s ASAP.

Response to Pachamama (Reply #14)

speak easy

(9,259 posts)
16. oh my ... would the Warthogs need an escort in Ukraine ...
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 09:14 AM
Apr 2022

F-15/16s? F-35s?

and ... who is wanna be holed up in a T-72?

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
17. Nope - they are the escorts o the Ground troops
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 09:26 AM
Apr 2022

And the end for Russian T-72 Tanks they were designed to be the last thing they encounter…

I have this secret wish that they get delivered to Ukrainian Pilots who have been training on them and swoop in going right at all of the miles of Russian Tanks and trucks planning to try to take Ukraine.

speak easy

(9,259 posts)
18. I am an ordinary man
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 09:34 AM
Apr 2022

butl your 'secret wish' corresponds with what I am feeling toward the 'Russian Army'. Animals.

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