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BumRushDaShow

(129,661 posts)
Fri May 27, 2022, 12:22 PM May 2022

Moderate Dem Congressman Loses to Progressive Challenger in Oregon

Source: Daily Beast

Progressive challenger Jamie McLeod-Skinner has defeated incumbent Rep. Kurt Schrader (D) in Oregon’s fifth congressional district, according to the Associated Press, kicking one of Congress’ most moderate Democrats to the curb. The two candidates were forced to wait more than a week for the results of the May 17 primary, in part caused by ballot-counting delays in Clackamas County, one of the state’s most populous.

The state is also navigating a new vote-by-mail provision that allows returned ballots to be postmarked as late as Election Day, meaning ballots could continue to arrive and shift the totals over the next few days. Schrader and McLeod-Skinner’s matchup followed a year of tribulation between moderates and progressives in Congress during talks on passing the party’s signature social spending bill, the Build Back Better Act.

Schrader was a member of the so-called “unbreakable nine” group of House members that said they would refuse to vote in favor of the Build Back Better package - filled with progressive priorities - unless the bipartisan infrastructure bill was passed first. Months later, the infrastructure bill became law, while the social spending package was essentially spiked. Schrader’s role in that legislative maneuver, in addition to his positions on pharmaceutical pricing and other Democratic priorities, were points of contention in the race.

His decision to hold the social spending bill hostage drove a number of local officials, including four county Democratic parties, to endorse McLeod-Skinner over Schrader. Some national figures also came to her backing, including the Working Families Party and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA).

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/incumbent-democrat-rep-kurt-schrader-falls-to-progressive-challenger-jamie-mcleod-skinner-in-oregon



I've been saying this for awhile now (since last year) but there is something "bubbling up" under the surface. I suppose it's what a tsunami does when it is deep out in the open ocean where at the surface, you don't see much, and it only gains strength as it gets closer to shore and the water is shallower, after which the huge wave crests.
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Moderate Dem Congressman Loses to Progressive Challenger in Oregon (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2022 OP
Hopeful sign.. mountain grammy May 2022 #1
+1,000 nt Peregrine Took May 2022 #40
People are f-ing tired of the stagnation and the hemming and hawing vlyons May 2022 #2
Here's The Problem Me. May 2022 #3
Gives who a 1/100 chance? quakerboy May 2022 #4
538 Me. May 2022 #8
You misread (and possibly mistyped?) quakerboy May 2022 #42
Her. JudyM May 2022 #5
538 llashram May 2022 #6
Let's Hope They Are Wrong Me. May 2022 #7
That appears to be from 2018 in what I'm assuming was a different district. Ace Rothstein May 2022 #9
In 2018 she ran in District 2, which is bright RED leftieNanner May 2022 #10
Really? Cook Political Report says the 5th is a toss-up, but on the Democratic side muriel_volestrangler May 2022 #11
Has The Race For The Cons Been Called Yet? Me. May 2022 #13
Yes - from your link: muriel_volestrangler May 2022 #15
You Are Quite Right Me. May 2022 #18
You are right about that. In fact, 538 gives Oregon's current 5th District a 3 point edge KPN May 2022 #23
That doesn't sound right. scipan May 2022 #16
Never Wise To Hold Your Breath Me. May 2022 #19
you are kidding! I hope that is not true. Why would anyone vote for someone who can't win a Demsrule86 May 2022 #37
Great news - hopefully 2022 will see the dismantling of the Sabotage Squad. Nt Fiendish Thingy May 2022 #12
Not So Fast Me. May 2022 #14
If anything can happen, then... Fiendish Thingy May 2022 #27
According To Univeral Rules, The Anything Can Happen Possibility Me. May 2022 #30
As an Oregonian the past 35 years, let me just say AWESOME. KPN May 2022 #17
Me to fellow Oregonian here Tree Lady May 2022 #21
Not if we lose the seat. It we lose the house, it will be a disaster. Demsrule86 May 2022 #38
If we lose the seat we were going to lose the seat anyway. quakerboy May 2022 #43
Well, the fact that the 4 County Democratic Party KPN May 2022 #44
Well, the fact that the 4 County Democratic Party KPN May 2022 #45
Good, but DownriverDem May 2022 #20
Well, apparently, Oregonians do. Including local Democratic Party leaders. Isn't that enough? KPN May 2022 #22
No DownriverDem May 2022 #24
Ah, sorry, I misunderstood you to say you are not a Progressive as opposed to KPN May 2022 #25
Shouldn't replacing Democrats who obstruct Biden's agenda and block legislation be a priority? Fiendish Thingy May 2022 #28
Not unless they can win the General...and as far as I can see those who have voted against Biden Demsrule86 May 2022 #39
President Biden didn't think so. former9thward May 2022 #46
Wasn't Schrader one of the "Problem Solvers" who pushed to de-link the BIF & BBB? Fiendish Thingy May 2022 #47
I didn't make the endorsement. former9thward May 2022 #48
Great! McCloud-Skinner's a good sensible liberal Democrat, not a faux prog. Hortensis May 2022 #26
What A Great Distinction & One More People Should Be Aware Of Me. May 2022 #29
I want more like that... liberal and sensible. ananda May 2022 #35
In any case, she's one of us.. mountain grammy May 2022 #41
'Most moderate' is bullshit framing. Voltaire2 May 2022 #31
She will be great! McKim May 2022 #32
The writing is on the wall! Lunabell May 2022 #33
Big Pharma Kurt. Glad to see his sorry ass going out the door. jalan48 May 2022 #34
As a resident of this district, good riddance to Kurt. He can take his pharma neverforget May 2022 #36
Another of the "Unbreakable Nine" who opposed the Biden progressive Hortensis May 2022 #50
Voters have the power! neverforget May 2022 #51
Yup. Joinfortmill May 2022 #49
OR-05 is a D+1 district brooklynite May 2022 #52
Good. Tarc May 2022 #53

Me.

(35,454 posts)
3. Here's The Problem
Fri May 27, 2022, 12:33 PM
May 2022

538 gives him 1/100 chance of winning against the con. We cannot afford to lose any seats.

quakerboy

(13,921 posts)
4. Gives who a 1/100 chance?
Fri May 27, 2022, 12:43 PM
May 2022

Because the apparent winner is Her, not him.


Also.. The apparent chances for the incumbent were not significantly different. Lets see what things look like when the GE contest actually gets going.

quakerboy

(13,921 posts)
42. You misread (and possibly mistyped?)
Fri May 27, 2022, 09:12 PM
May 2022

You said 538 gave "Him" a 1/100 chance.

But the apparent winner is a "Her".


Im also curious if you have a link to this, because multiple search queries into google and at fivethirtyeight are not getting me any results that remotely resemble what you are saying.

Edited to add... I responded, then read the rest of the thread below. My points have been more than adequately presented by others there, no need to respond to the same thing again

leftieNanner

(15,178 posts)
10. In 2018 she ran in District 2, which is bright RED
Fri May 27, 2022, 12:58 PM
May 2022

She ran against Greg Walden (who has since retired - replaced by the odious Cliff Bentz) and I worked on her campaign. She lost, but she did turn Walden's home county blue!

I think she can win this one.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
13. Has The Race For The Cons Been Called Yet?
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:04 PM
May 2022

It's not going to be easy whoever is the con candidate is

"“The redrawn 5th District leans Democratic, according to the Cook Political report. However, it’s less securely blue than it was before redistricting, and national Republican groups are expected to target the district’s voters in their effort to win a majority in the U.S. House.”

https://www.opb.org/article/2022/05/25/kurt-schrader-close-to-losing-seat-oregon-5th-district/

muriel_volestrangler

(101,390 posts)
15. Yes - from your link:
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:06 PM
May 2022
Democratic party voters in the state’s 5th Congressional District appear to have rejected the seven-term incumbent, and chosen Terrebonne attorney Jamie McLeod-Skinner to run against Republican candidate Lori Chavez-DeRemer in the November general election.

"Not easy" is a world away from "1 in 100 chance".

Me.

(35,454 posts)
18. You Are Quite Right
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:13 PM
May 2022

her hope is better but still...

“Cook Political Report, a noted national elections ratings agency that forecasts the likelihood of how congressional races will pan out, has moved the Oregon 5th from a “Lean Democrat” to a “toss-up” with McLeod-Skinner’s nomination.”

https://centraloregondaily.com/jamie-mcleod-skinner-liza-chavez-deremer-5th-district/


KPN

(15,665 posts)
23. You are right about that. In fact, 538 gives Oregon's current 5th District a 3 point edge
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:37 PM
May 2022

for Democrats in 2022. election.

[link:https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon%27s_5th_Congressional_District_election,_2022_(May_17_Democratic_primary)|

scipan

(2,361 posts)
16. That doesn't sound right.
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:07 PM
May 2022

538 has the district at D+3. A 1/100 chance for her to win is just not plausible.

I'd like to see your source for that. I won't hold my breath.

Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
37. you are kidding! I hope that is not true. Why would anyone vote for someone who can't win a
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:43 PM
May 2022

General.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,684 posts)
27. If anything can happen, then...
Fri May 27, 2022, 02:09 PM
May 2022

Dismantling the Sabotage Squad is one of those possible “anything’s”.

Tree Lady

(11,512 posts)
21. Me to fellow Oregonian here
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:26 PM
May 2022

I voted for her twice before and glad she won this time. I went in person to see her speak years ago and really liked what she had to say. She worked hard and went to every county no matter right or left.

quakerboy

(13,921 posts)
43. If we lose the seat we were going to lose the seat anyway.
Fri May 27, 2022, 09:17 PM
May 2022

Kurt was no more likely to win the post redistricting area than Jamie.

KPN

(15,665 posts)
44. Well, the fact that the 4 County Democratic Party
Fri May 27, 2022, 10:02 PM
May 2022

Organizations supported her over Schaefer is important and a good sign. I don’t think the County party orgs that comprise the district would have made the decision to support her if they thought she would lose. Now voters, without support of the county orgs, is perhaps a different story.

KPN

(15,665 posts)
45. Well, the fact that the 4 County Democratic Party
Fri May 27, 2022, 10:03 PM
May 2022

Organizations supported her over Schaefer is important and a good sign. I don’t think the County party orgs that comprise the district would have made the decision to support her if they thought she would lose. Now voters, without support of the county orgs, is perhaps a different story.

DownriverDem

(6,232 posts)
24. No
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:37 PM
May 2022

I'm a proud member of the Democratic Party. It's who we are. I don't think we should waste time with labels that aren't official. Watching the MAGA repubs shows what division does. Isn't that enough?

KPN

(15,665 posts)
25. Ah, sorry, I misunderstood you to say you are not a Progressive as opposed to
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:42 PM
May 2022

you identify with the label Democrat as opposed to a specific subset of Democrats. My mistake. That is good enough.

Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
39. Not unless they can win the General...and as far as I can see those who have voted against Biden
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:46 PM
May 2022

in the house did call themselves progressive? What am I missing?

former9thward

(32,097 posts)
46. President Biden didn't think so.
Fri May 27, 2022, 10:20 PM
May 2022

He traveled to Oregon and endorsed Schrader. It was his first endorsement of the 2022 primaries.

“We don’t always agree, but when it has mattered most, Kurt has been there for me,” Biden wrote in his announcement. “And in doing so, he has helped to pass much of my agenda into law — making a huge difference in the lives of the Oregonians he represents and all of America.”

https://www.opb.org/article/2022/04/23/president-joe-biden-endorses-incumbent-kurt-schrader-for-5th-congressional-district/

Fiendish Thingy

(15,684 posts)
47. Wasn't Schrader one of the "Problem Solvers" who pushed to de-link the BIF & BBB?
Sat May 28, 2022, 12:08 AM
May 2022

Thereby sabotaging the centrepiece of Biden’s legislative agenda?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Great! McCloud-Skinner's a good sensible liberal Democrat, not a faux prog.
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:52 PM
May 2022

Like many of us, left of Biden but same ideology and goals.

All liberal Democrats are progressive. But not everyone who identifies as "Progressive" is a Democrat, or liberal, or even progressive. In any case, she's one of us, not those who want to dismantle the Democratic Party and sabotage our progressive legislation to undermine support for us.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
29. What A Great Distinction & One More People Should Be Aware Of
Fri May 27, 2022, 02:18 PM
May 2022

"But not everyone who identifies as "Progressive" is a Democrat, or liberal, or even progressive"

Voltaire2

(13,213 posts)
31. 'Most moderate' is bullshit framing.
Fri May 27, 2022, 02:24 PM
May 2022

These are right wing Democrats. There are no ‘moderates’ in a polarized political system.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
32. She will be great!
Fri May 27, 2022, 02:25 PM
May 2022

She will be great! She has campaigned all over and won with new fresh ideas. Rep. Schrader voted agains Biden's agenda. He is a DINO. This is a liberal state.

Lunabell

(6,125 posts)
33. The writing is on the wall!
Fri May 27, 2022, 02:26 PM
May 2022

We're mad as hell and we ain't gonna take it any more! It may take longer than I have left on this earth, but change is a comin'!!

neverforget

(9,437 posts)
36. As a resident of this district, good riddance to Kurt. He can take his pharma
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:11 PM
May 2022

dollars and enjoy retirement but he'll probably be a pharma lobbyist.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
50. Another of the "Unbreakable Nine" who opposed the Biden progressive
Sat May 28, 2022, 10:04 AM
May 2022

infrastructure spending goes down or is already gone. They may end up only three or four before long.

"Unbreakable's" Carolyn Bourdeaux is voted out here in GA, lost in a redistricting race to Lucy McBath. Though fiscally more moderate than average, she's a solid liberal progressive who helped create and pass the Biden agenda and is well regarded by the couple hundred fellow house Democrats who also did.

The voters speak.

brooklynite

(94,789 posts)
52. OR-05 is a D+1 district
Sat May 28, 2022, 06:06 PM
May 2022

Cook Political has it as a TOSSUP. Sabato has it as LEAN D.

This could be a challenge to win without an incumbent.

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