Canada Aims to Force Owners of 'Military-Style Assault Weapons' to Turn Them In
Source: New York Times
OTTAWA Most owners of what Canada calls military-style assault weapons would be required to turn over their firearms to a government buyback program under legislation introduced on Monday, which would tighten the countrys already stringent control of firearms. The Canadian government also immediately imposed new regulations banning the sale, purchase, importation or transfer of handguns. As a government, as a society, we have a responsibility to act to prevent more tragedies, Mr. Trudeau told reporters on Monday.
The proposed buyback law is the latest in a series of steps Mr. Trudeau has taken to restrict firearms since 22 people were killed in rural Nova Scotia by a gunman in 2020, in the deadliest rampage in the countrys history. The gunman was killed by police. The Canadian legislation comes as another mass shooting in the United States has reignited an often searing debate on gun violence. Last week a gunman used a military-style rifle to kill 19 children and two teachers in the town of Uvalde, Tex.
Only 10 days earlier, a teenage gunman entranced by a white supremacist ideology opened fire at a supermarket in Buffalo, N.Y., shooting and killing 10 people and injuring three more, almost all of them Black. After 20 children and six adults were massacred in 2012 at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, there were widespread calls in the United States for stronger controls on powerful firearms. But in the intervening years almost nothing has happened, with many Republicans aligned with the gun lobby refusing to even allow a vote on any proposed legislation.
Mr. Trudeaus program echoes a semiautomatic weapons ban and buyback program launched by New Zealand in 2019, after a lone gunman stormed two mosques, killing 51 people and injuring dozens of others in Christchurch. After a mass shooting in 1996 in which a gunman killed 35 people in the town of Port Arthur, Australia, the government there collected more than 650,000 semiautomatic rifles and many shotguns after they were banned under new legislation. American lawmakers have failed to restore restrictions on military-style semiautomatic weapons that expired in 2004. But Mr. Trudeaus proposal, which could apply to tens of thousands of firearms, is expected to pass.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/30/world/canada/canada-gun-buyback.html
Man... wish we could do that here but... FREEDOMS (unless you are a woman and/or a POC).
IronLionZion
(45,462 posts)to at least focus on the "well regulated militia" more than just "shall not be infringed".
PSPS
(13,603 posts)IronLionZion
(45,462 posts)they might be able to influence change eventually
PSPS
(13,603 posts)The way the senate works, 40 senators that represent 11% of the population can block any legislation.
Bev54
(10,053 posts)PSPS
(13,603 posts)Even without the filibuster, senators representing a small minority of citizens can still block any legislation.
Bev54
(10,053 posts)within reach if they get another couple of senators. I have to admit, before Trump, I didn't know a lot about how your system of government worked and in the past 5 years have come to understand how skewed the system is. I prefer our parliamentary system now.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,626 posts)But then, we have five parties holding seats in parliament, and, in a crisis, a simple majority no confidence vote can dissolve the government and hold a snap election. No messy 2/3 impeachment trial shenanigans
PSPS
(13,603 posts)Parliamentary systems aren't "all or nothing" elections like they are in the US. That's why Canada has several different functioning political parties while the US has only two.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,626 posts)Thats how Trudeau holds power, despite only getting 40-something % of the popular vote.
ancianita
(36,101 posts)We cry "do something," and our neighbor to the north does it.
BumRushDaShow
(129,130 posts)is gonna try to regroup (whoever is left that hasn't been put away) to start up the turmoil again.
ancianita
(36,101 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,130 posts)begathons to continue.
But then once Canada got serious, they made mincemeat outta them and then the story fell out of the news cycle.
But then I just found this from a couple weeks ago -
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau condemned the protest as illegal. Now some of his key opponents are embracing it.
By Ian Austen
May 11, 2022
OTTAWA Canadians were shocked when a group of truckers rolled their rigs into the nations capital earlier this year, paralyzed the downtown area for weeks and demanded that the government lift all pandemic-related restrictions. The demonstrations spread to border crossings, forcing car manufacturing plants to shut down and disrupting billions of dollars in trade with the United States. In the end, the prime minister took the extraordinary step of invoking an emergencies act allowing the government, among other things, to freeze protesters bank accounts. But that was then.
Now, the truckers and their supporters have become an important constituency and are being courted by the countrys Conservative Party, Prime Minister Justin Trudeaus main political opposition. Many in the party are busy rewriting what happened on those chaotic days in February, glossing over the blockades illegality and an arms cache found at a protest in Alberta where the authorities said protesters were ready to use violence to block a border crossing there. And several would-be Conservative leaders are fighting each other to be seen as the true defender of the truckers and their claims that Canadians have lost their freedoms.
The truckers have more integrity in their pinky finger than you had in your entire scandal-plagued cabinet, said Pierre Poilievre, the front-runner for the now vacant party leadership as he challenged a former Quebec premier, Jean Charest, in a debate last week. With its multiparty system, Canada is not known for the kind of zero-sum politics that has come to define political life in the United States. But that is a narrative that obscures the struggles and intrigue that animates the contest for power in the country. That is especially true after the last elections in October, when Mr. Trudeau was returned to power for a third term as prime minister, with the far right party again failing to take any seats in the parliament.
The Conservatives, the only other party to form a government in Canada, are readying for a fight and see the truckers and their followers not as outcasts, but as political currency that can bring in votes and money. We should support our truckers and stand up for their freedoms, Mr. Poilievre said at a recent rally in Ottawa. Canadas next federal election is expected in 2025, which in the world of politics is an eternity. Anything can happen between now and then. But there are two factors that have unnerved some of those close to the current Liberal Party government.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/11/world/canada/trucker-convoy-protest-conservatives.html
Looks like someone is already working on the next round of astroturf manufacturing.
ancianita
(36,101 posts)The negative holier-than-thou patriotic contest is some christo-fascist stuff -- a lot like a contagious virus of authoritarian sickness.
NJCher
(35,688 posts)Canada has a plan for how they're going to deal with us if the republicans ever completely take down this government?
I read about it last week. Should have posted it. Maybe someone else did.
ancianita
(36,101 posts)NJCher
(35,688 posts)although there must be an update. I think I heard it on NPR. I'll research it later when I have more time.
Thanks for posting that; at least for now posters can see what I was talking about.
Take care.
Bev54
(10,053 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,196 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,743 posts)Bev54
(10,053 posts)here in Canada about it.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/national-security-us-fox-news-threat-report-1.6459660
ultralite001
(894 posts)That is all
Aussie105
(5,405 posts)have all done it.
Now Canada.
Your turn next America!
The rest of the civilized world is looking on and wondering how civilized you really are.
Not looking pretty as is.
(Apologies if I've missed out any other countries that have effective gun control, those three are just off the top of my head.)
BumRushDaShow
(129,130 posts)then the NRA changed tactics, and became an even worse menace upon the sunset of the Assault Weapon ban in 2004.
But they are being chipped away -
By Aimee Picchi, Kate Gibson
Updated on: May 27, 2022 / 7:48 AM / MoneyWatch
The National Rifle Association is promoting its annual convention in Houston over the Memorial Day weekend as a chance to "celebrate Freedom, Firearms and the Second Amendment!" But with two mass shootings just 10 days apart that killed 21 schoolchildren and teachers in Uvalde, Texas, and 10 grocery shoppers in Buffalo, New York, the annual celebrations are giving way to a renewed debate over gun rights and the influence of the 151-year-old NRA. The NRA has long used its ample coffers to fund lawmakers mostly Republicans on Capitol Hill and in statehouses across the U.S., in turn thwarting efforts to tighten gun control laws.
The advocacy organization has maintained that stance since the 1970s, when it shifted from focusing on gun safety and marksmanship to fending off gun-control regulations, supporting friendly lawmakers and filing lawsuits to challenge firearm restrictions. But IRS documents and legal filings show that the organization's finances have weakened significantly in recent years, while allegations of financial mismanagement, including misuse of funds and fraud by top leaders, threaten its future, according to experts.
Declining membership
The NRA's revenue declined 23% from roughly $367 million in 2016 to $282 million in 2020, the most recent year for which its tax filings are available. Contributions and grants from members and from corporations also have slipped 15% during that time. "The NRA relies on revenue from members, and they seem to be losing members," said Frank Smyth, the author of "The NRA: An Unauthorized History," noting that he is a gun owner and NRA member who also believes in gun regulations. "They are doing their best to cover that up. It's a trend that is probably going to continue." The NRA reached 5 million members in 2013, prompting its leader, Wayne LaPierre, to proclaim that the group would double its ranks to 10 million, according to USA Today. While its base swelled to 6 million members by 2018, it has lost ground since then, with LaPierre saying in a 2021 deposition that its membership was "under 4.9 million."
(snip)
The NRA is losing members for several reasons, experts say. The gun organization has been the focus of embarrassing allegations of financial mismanagement and fraud, with the group in its most recent IRS tax filing admitting that it paid for personal chartered jets for LaPierre, as well as "professional makeup and hair services" for his wife, Susan LaPierre, among other issues. "Dismantling the power that the gun lobby accumulated over the years was never going to happen overnight, but it's clear that this NRA consumed by chaos and mismanagement is in a weakened position," said Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action, a gun regulation group that Watts started in the wake of the Sandy Hook elementary school massacre, in an email to CBS MoneyWatch.
(snip)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nra-national-rifle-association-membership-revenue-2022/
Meanwhile NY Attorney General Letitia James' fraud suit against them continues despite the court rejection of her plan to put them out of business immediately.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)Otherwise, such a threat to our religious beliefs might lead to a movement to repeal the Second Amendment. Quick, everyone arm up and head north, except for Ted Cruz, who will, of course, head to Cancun.
'Cause some people just can't tell.
Bev54
(10,053 posts)cut us off mutual defenses.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,626 posts)Hopefully Trudeaus Liberals have done their homework, and understand that a clear majority of Canadians support the bill.
ancianita
(36,101 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,626 posts)ancianita
(36,101 posts)But Canadians are paying attention.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,626 posts)ancianita
(36,101 posts)Bev54
(10,053 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,626 posts)Bev54
(10,053 posts)I am sure the extremists are more vocal now but they do not have power.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,626 posts)But shutting down Ottawa and 2/3s of cross border commerce is definitely a form of power.
Bev54
(10,053 posts)They have zero power and only thought they did.
riversedge
(70,245 posts)Bev54
(10,053 posts)I am sure that is going out to the majority. Most of us do not want guns in our country, it is only the extreme right that do.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,626 posts)Hope the majoritys spines stay strong.
Bev54
(10,053 posts)just as stupid as those in the US and their leadership has been cut off at the knees.
Cha
(297,323 posts)Aussie105
(5,405 posts)Canada builds a wall to keep nutters from the Dangerous Place to the south out.
Mexico builds a wall to keep nutters from the Dangerous Place to the the north out.
Occasionally, scouting parties from Canada and Mexico can venture into the Dangerous Place to see if anyone is still alive.
BumRushDaShow
(129,130 posts)(almost 5500 miles/8900 km), which is way more than anything that Mexico would need from their end.
Maybe one of those deer fences.
radicalleft
(478 posts)This WILL be used by repukes in the run up to upcoming elections as "warning" as to what the liberals in DC will do to the U.S.