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PSPS

(13,614 posts)
Tue May 31, 2022, 06:05 PM May 2022

One dead, two injured after gunfire breaks out after Morris Jeff graduation; 'This is horrible'

Source: NOLA

One dead, two injured after gunfire breaks out after Morris Jeff graduation; 'This is horrible'
GABRIELLA KILLET and MISSY WILKINSON | Staff writers

A woman was killed and two others were injured after gunfire broke out Tuesday following the Morris Jeff Community School graduation on the Xavier University campus, New Orleans police said.

The bloodshed comes just two weeks after four people were injured in an eerily similar shooting outside of the commencement ceremonies for Hammond High School. That graduation was also held at a college campus: Southeastern Louisiana University.

At a news conference, NOPD Deputy Superintendent Christopher Goodly said two women began fighting in the parking lot of Xavier's convocation center after elated graduates and their loved ones spilled out of the 10 a.m. ceremony. The fight escalated, and at least one person pulled out a weapon and began firing.

At least three subjects were detained at the scene, police said, though it's not clear what their involvement may have been. A witness told WDSU-TV that the woman who was shot and later died was the grandmother of a graduate.

Read more: https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/article_76eb0a12-e10c-11ec-9845-232257a58b96.html

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One dead, two injured after gunfire breaks out after Morris Jeff graduation; 'This is horrible' (Original Post) PSPS May 2022 OP
Why do people feel this is an acceptable form of discourse? BlueTsunami2018 May 2022 #1
This Is How Americans Always Have Settled Disputes SoCalDavidS May 2022 #3
Or, at least, it goes back to popular culture about the Old West... regnaD kciN May 2022 #5
Yes and no, much of that is myth. See content: TeamProg May 2022 #6
The story says possibly gang related. jimfields33 May 2022 #4
This Is Horrible? No, This Is America!! nt SoCalDavidS May 2022 #2
Special place in hell for all the gunhumpers and Moscow Mitch. Fuck 'em all. n/t Evolve Dammit May 2022 #7
Gun Culture Roy Rolling May 2022 #8
This kind of shoot out is getting more and more common leftyladyfrommo Jun 2022 #9

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
1. Why do people feel this is an acceptable form of discourse?
Tue May 31, 2022, 06:15 PM
May 2022

I mean, what the fuck are you doing fighting at a college graduation in the first place, let alone lighting it up with gunfire?

It’s ridiculous that this goes on every single day.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
3. This Is How Americans Always Have Settled Disputes
Tue May 31, 2022, 06:26 PM
May 2022

It goes back to the Old West.

And it will be the way going forward as well.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
5. Or, at least, it goes back to popular culture about the Old West...
Tue May 31, 2022, 06:42 PM
May 2022

In particular, lots of movies culminating in a "showdown on Main Street" (in which the good guy invariably won).

TeamProg

(6,237 posts)
6. Yes and no, much of that is myth. See content:
Tue May 31, 2022, 07:53 PM
May 2022
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gun-control-old-west-180968013/


Gun Control Is as Old as the Old West

Contrary to the popular imagination, bearing arms on the frontier was a heavily regulated business


It's October 26, 1881, in Tombstone, and Arizona is not yet a state. The O.K. Corral is quiet, and it's had an unremarkable existence for the two years it's been standing—although it's about to become famous.

Marshall Virgil Earp, having deputized his brothers Wyatt and Morgan and his pal Doc Holliday, is having a gun control problem. Long-running tensions between the lawmen and a faction of cowboys – represented this morning by Billy Claiborne, the Clanton brothers, and the McLaury brothers – will come to a head over Tombstone's gun law.

The laws of Tombstone at the time required visitors, upon entering town to disarm, either at a hotel or a lawman's office. (Residents of many famed cattle towns, such as Dodge City, Abilene, and Deadwood, had similar restrictions.) But these cowboys had no intention of doing so as they strolled around town with Colt revolvers and Winchester rifles in plain sight. Earlier on this fateful day, Virgil had disarmed one cowboy forcefully, while Wyatt confronted another and county sheriff Johnny Behan failed to persuade two more to turn in their firearms.

When the Earps and Holliday met the cowboys on Fremont Street in the early afternoon, Virgil once again called on them to disarm. Nobody knows who fired first. Ike Clanton and Billy Claiborne, who were unarmed, ran at the start of the fight and survived. Billy Clanton and the McLaury brothers, who stood and fought, were killed by the lawmen, all of whom walked away.

The “Old West” conjures up all sorts of imagery, but broadly, the term is used to evoke life among the crusty prospectors, threadbare gold panners, madams of brothels, and six-shooter-packing cowboys in small frontier towns – such as Tombstone, Deadwood, Dodge City, or Abilene, to name a few. One other thing these cities had in common: strict gun control laws.



"Tombstone had much more restrictive laws on carrying guns in public in the 1880s than it has today,” says Adam Winkler, a professor and specialist in American constitutional law at UCLA School of Law. “Today, you're allowed to carry a gun without a license or permit on Tombstone streets. Back in the 1880s, you weren't.” Same goes for most of the New West, to varying degrees, in the once-rowdy frontier towns of Nevada, Kansas, Montana, and South Dakota.

Dodge City, Kansas, formed a municipal government in 1878. According to Stephen Aron, a professor of history at UCLA, the first law passed was one prohibiting the carry of guns in town, likely by civic leaders and influential merchants who wanted people to move there, invest their time and resources, and bring their families. Cultivating a reputation of peace and stability was necessary, even in boisterous towns, if it were to become anything more transient than a one-industry boom town.

Laws regulating ownership and carry of firearms, apart from the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment, were passed at a local level rather than by Congress. “Gun control laws were adopted pretty quickly in these places,” says Winkler. “Most were adopted by municipal governments exercising self-control and self-determination.” Carrying any kind of weapon, guns or knives, was not allowed other than outside town borders and inside the home. When visitors left their weapons with a law officer upon entering town, they'd receive a token, like a coat check, which they'd exchange for their guns when leaving town.


CONT'D..



Roy Rolling

(6,933 posts)
8. Gun Culture
Tue May 31, 2022, 08:41 PM
May 2022

Too many guns, too many gun “heroes”.

I’m from New Orleans. We’ve had it…I don’t think the outrage from this will die down. Fuck these gun humpers.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,870 posts)
9. This kind of shoot out is getting more and more common
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 05:49 PM
Jun 2022

with the gangs. They go in shooting at social gatherings like birthday parties or weddings or funerals.

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