Before Jan. 6, Aide Warned Secret Service of Security Risk to Pence

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Source: New York Times


By Maggie Haberman

The day before a mob of President Donald J. Trump’s supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence’s chief of staff called Mr. Pence’s lead Secret Service agent to his West Wing office.

The chief of staff, Marc Short, had a message for the agent, Tim Giebels: The president was going to turn publicly against the vice president, and there could be a security risk to Mr. Pence because of it.

The stark warning — the only time Mr. Short flagged a security concern during his tenure as Mr. Pence’s top aide — was uncovered recently during research by this reporter for an upcoming book, “Confidence Man: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America,” to be published in October.

Mr. Short did not know what form such a security risk might take, according to people familiar with the events. But after days of intensifying pressure from Mr. Trump on Mr. Pence to take the extraordinary step of intervening in the certification of the Electoral College count to forestall Mr. Trump’s defeat, Mr. Short seemed to have good reason for concern. The vice president’s refusal to go along was exploding into an open and bitter breach between the two men at a time when the president was stoking the fury of his supporters who were streaming into Washington.

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[dchill]

1. Intent proved.

[Ms. Toad]

17. ?

A security aide to Pence accurately reading the risk is hardly proof of someone else's intent.

[Escurumbele]

22. I have to think that for that person to accurately read the risk to Pence was based on some info

I have to agree that if, and I say if, that person had any knowledge of what was being planned and thus became worried about Pence, that would prove intent.

[dchill]

23. Exactly.

[Ms. Toad]

24. From a legal perspective - you're stretching.

Anyone charged with protecting Pence who was aware that Trump wanted him to act one way and he planned to (or did) act another way would warn Pence to be cautious. Trump was pretty vocal both about his expectations and Pence's hesitancy. It's not rocket science for those charged with protecting Pence to realize he might be in danger from the mob.

[sop]

2. Lately I'm seeing "Trump Pence 2020" bumper stickers with "Pence" crossed out with a Sharpie.

One even had a little hangman's noose drawn next to the crossed-out "Pence."

[ZonkerHarris]

3. Thank you for the link that allows us to read the article

[swag]

6. You're welcome. I will share articles up to my monthly limit.

The trick is figuring out which 10 articles are the most important to "share" as the month goes by.

[bucolic_frolic]

4. Many in high circles knew plus 80 million Americans, but no one could stop the freight train

Easier said than done, I guess.

[swag]

5. I wonder what Maggie means by "uncovered recently".

[agingdem]

8. You can bet Maggie's had a little

sit-down with the J6 committee..I suspect this isn't Breaking News to them.

[Raster]

13. When Habberman* comments "uncovered recently," she means...

...she isn't able to get an mileage out of the piece of information for her next book, so she'll just have to write about it in the NYT.

[msfiddlestix]

14. well, the answer to that question apparently will be in her new book to be published in Oct.

per the statement in her report.

he stark warning — the only time Mr. Short flagged a security concern during his tenure as Mr. Pence’s top aide — was uncovered recently during research by this reporter for an upcoming book, “Confidence Man: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America,” to be published in October.

that's how I read it anyway...

recently uncovered my ass.

[sanatanadharma]

7. Puts Pence's "I'm not getting in that car!" in a context

Vice President Mike Pence’s chief of staff called Mr. Pence’s lead Secret Service agent to his West Wing office, telling Tim Giebels: The president was going to turn publicly against the vice president, and there could be a security risk to Mr. Pence because of it.

Pence knew. Short put the Secret Service on notice that the VP office knew stuff.

[RussBLib]

11. so, where were those guys going to take the VP?

who was behind it?

why did Pence refuse to get in that car?

fucking kidnapping?

[Auggie]

19. +1

[C Moon]

9. That's one of the areas where tfg screwed up: if he'd been kind/respectful toward Pence,

we'd be living in a different world, right now after January 6th.

[Raster]

15. No, we would not. No matter what the tRump* politicos say, Pence had no authority to change...

... the outcome of the election. He asked.

[C Moon]

16. I think things would have been a lot messier, more unruly, and prolonged,

if they went ahead as planned.
But it's a relief to hear they would have failed in the end.

[Raster]

18. Agreed, but he would NOT have been able to change the outcome of the election.

And he did ask... Dan Quayle

[sarcasmo]

10. Didn't Mr. Short already talk with the Jan. Committee?

[msfiddlestix]

12. Interresting self promotion.

The stark warning — the only time Mr. Short flagged a security concern during his tenure as Mr. Pence’s top aide — was uncovered recently during research by this reporter for an upcoming book, “Confidence Man: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America,” to be published in October.

By inserting "This Reporter" seems to imply she's referring to her self, as the reporter who uncovered this back story, and promoting her upcoming book.

So Maggie. sheesh.

[swag]

20. That's how she do.

[Evolve Dammit]

21. I don't know if Pence realized how close he was to being killed. Is he that stupid??

45 was excited to watch the violence and could have cared less if Pence was executed, as he was the one who was doing the certification.

[Captain Zero]

26. Pence dying would've been reason for Martial Law

Trump didn't care if Pence died.

The old fascist play book . Cause a problem and then claim to be the only one who can solve it.

False flag operations work great for this.

Imagine Pence died. Blame it on leftists or BLM, or LGBTQ radicals. Bingo. Martial Law. No transfer of office. Have the military rerun elections in close states.

Voila! All of that was other things his inside cadre discussed.

[Evolve Dammit]

27. I think you are absolutely correct.

[question everything]

25. Maggie Haberman was on the ABC show and told the story. What else is there?