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andricv

(51 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 02:48 PM Jun 2022

SpaceX Fires Employees Involved in Letter Critical of Musk, Company

Source: Wall Street Journal

SpaceX fired several employees involved in a letter that criticized Chief Executive Elon Musk and the way the company applies internal rules, according to an email to staff from SpaceX’s president and people familiar with it.

Gwynne Shotwell, SpaceX’s president, said the company conducted an investigation and decided to terminate a number of employees who participated in the effort, according to the email, a copy of which was viewed by The Wall Street Journal. Her email didn’t say how many people the company let go, and that number couldn’t immediately be determined.

Some employees at the company recently wrote a letter that called Mr. Musk’s public statements and behavior, particularly during the past several weeks, embarrassing and distracting. The letter asked SpaceX management to publicly separate the company from Mr. Musk’s personal brand, and to take steps to address what it said was a gap between SpaceX’s stated values and its current systems and company culture.

Read more: https://www.wsj.com/articles/spacex-fires-employees-involved-in-letter-critical-of-musk-company-11655471021



Well well well, Mr. Freedom of Speech. We hardly knew ye.
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SpaceX Fires Employees Involved in Letter Critical of Musk, Company (Original Post) andricv Jun 2022 OP
Well that's certainly not going to improve the work environment at SpaceX VMA131Marine Jun 2022 #1
he's trying to turn himself into an Ayn Rand protagonist paulkienitz Jun 2022 #13
Go to love that Miguelito Loveless Jun 2022 #2
I hope they contacted the NLRB, and are proceeding to sue the ever livin' fuck out of him. LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #3
For What? ruet Jun 2022 #8
Yeah, Space-X should probably Unionize... druidity33 Jun 2022 #11
You have rights under the National Lobor Relations act ... DBoon Jun 2022 #12
Thanks, I was going to post that. LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #17
"Elon Musk's comments are embarrassing us" doesn't really rise to the level of "working conditions" brooklynite Jun 2022 #21
The law specifically states that employees, union or not, cannot be fired in retaliation for... LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #18
The Letter and Pressure Campaign Isn't Any of Those Things. ruet Jun 2022 #19
OK, counselor. LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #20
Well guess Elon's gone full MAGA Q nut now. Initech Jun 2022 #4
yup, he now says he may support DeSantis paulkienitz Jun 2022 #15
Totally gross, they can have each other. Initech Jun 2022 #16
Did they use company resources? JohnSJ Jun 2022 #5
Another rich dick wants people to bow down to him. pwb Jun 2022 #6
free speech, Elon? RussBLib Jun 2022 #7
Sounds like another butthead......... Ziggysmom Jun 2022 #9
Hopefully once Boeing and Sierra Nevada Corp. get their spacecraft ready, we can then cut ties... Crowman2009 Jun 2022 #10
Well seta1950 Jun 2022 #14

VMA131Marine

(4,162 posts)
1. Well that's certainly not going to improve the work environment at SpaceX
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 02:54 PM
Jun 2022

Elon is starting to believe his own press releases about what a stable genius he is. At least he can’t run for President.

paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
13. he's trying to turn himself into an Ayn Rand protagonist
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 06:17 PM
Jun 2022

and her essential thesis was that the little people do not matter.

druidity33

(6,453 posts)
11. Yeah, Space-X should probably Unionize...
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:22 PM
Jun 2022

my contract includes a "manager review" process. Not to mention the fact that employment moves from an "at will" stand to a "just cause" stand... and the Union has lawyers too.

DBoon

(22,457 posts)
12. You have rights under the National Lobor Relations act ...
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 05:53 PM
Jun 2022

... to discuss working conditions and similar matters.

Employees who are not represented by a union also have rights under the NLRA. Specifically, the National Labor Relations Board protects the rights of employees to engage in “concerted activity”, which is when two or more employees take action for their mutual aid or protection regarding terms and conditions of employment. A single employee may also engage in protected concerted activity if he or she is acting on the authority of other employees, bringing group complaints to the employer’s attention, trying to induce group action, or seeking to prepare for group action.

A few examples of protected concerted activities are:

Two or more employees addressing their employer about improving their pay.
Two or more employees discussing work-related issues beyond pay, such as safety concerns, with each other.
An employee speaking to an employer on behalf of one or more co-workers about improving workplace conditions.

More information, including descriptions of actual concerted activity cases, is available on the protected concerted activity page.


from the NLRB's own Web site https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/your-rights/employee-rights

I'm sure the fired employees can easily find other employment with one of Musk's competitors

brooklynite

(95,210 posts)
21. "Elon Musk's comments are embarrassing us" doesn't really rise to the level of "working conditions"
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 10:29 AM
Jun 2022

LudwigPastorius

(9,337 posts)
18. The law specifically states that employees, union or not, cannot be fired in retaliation for...
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 06:40 PM
Jun 2022

joining with coworkers to talk directly to their employer, or the media, about problems in their workplace. The open letter they posted clearly does that.

Helpfully for lawsuit purposes, an email sent by COO Gwynne Shotwell in response definitively says that the reason they were fired was because of the critical letter.




Initech

(100,194 posts)
16. Totally gross, they can have each other.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 06:28 PM
Jun 2022

That’s one of those things like “tell me you watch Tucker Carlson without telling me you watch Tucker Carlson”.

Ziggysmom

(3,445 posts)
9. Sounds like another butthead.........
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 04:44 PM
Jun 2022
https://www.vox.com/first-person/2017/5/17/15626704/trump-comey-firing-recorded-phone-calls


"'I’ll never know for sure what’s behind Trump’s actions. But based on my experience working for him, this behavior is not surprising. It’s completely within character for Trump to demand utter loyalty from those with whom he surrounds himself — the concept of a “subordinate” as a check on his power is foreign to him. His insecurity feeds this desire to do all he can to remain the most powerful guy in the room."

Crowman2009

(2,514 posts)
10. Hopefully once Boeing and Sierra Nevada Corp. get their spacecraft ready, we can then cut ties...
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 04:51 PM
Jun 2022

...with SpaceX.

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