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brooklynite

(94,588 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 09:27 PM Jun 2022

A Day After a Portrait of Pence in Danger, Trump Attacks Him Again

Source: New York Times

A day after the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 assault illustrated the serious danger that rioters posed to Mike Pence, former President Donald J. Trump unleashed a new attack on the man who had served him as vice president, criticizing him for refusing to interfere with the Electoral College certification of the 2020 presidential contest.

Speaking on Friday afternoon before a faith-based group, Mr. Trump said that “Mike did not have the courage to act” in trying to unilaterally reject the Electoral College votes that were being cast for Joseph R. Biden Jr.

On Thursday, the House panel demonstrated that Mr. Trump and his advisers were told repeatedly that Mr. Pence had no power to block the certification and that doing so would violate the law, but pressed him to try anyway.

The committee also used witnesses to dismantle and debunk Mr. Trump’s false claims of widespread election fraud — arguments that he repeated in his keynote speech on Friday at the Faith and Freedom Coalition conference in Nashville.


Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/17/us/politics/donald-trump-pence-jan-6.html
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A Day After a Portrait of Pence in Danger, Trump Attacks Him Again (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2022 OP
faith based group is the giveaway phrase nt msongs Jun 2022 #1
He will never do this but I wonder whether Pence can sue Trump for question everything Jun 2022 #2
And slander blm Jun 2022 #4
A cult leader talking to a cult, and they love the hatred. Send money NOW. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2022 #3
FORGET ALL of the 'evidence' presented so far...... MyOwnPeace Jun 2022 #5
+1 2naSalit Jun 2022 #17
Big Blubbered Mouth Psycho.. Cha Jun 2022 #6
Criminal intent once more for the world to see. Justice matters. Jun 2022 #7
Lie, bully, bluster, threaten, and lie some more Alice Kramden Jun 2022 #8
The big lie continues and tfg supporters just lap it up. iluvtennis Jun 2022 #9
I find myself agreeing with Lawrence O'Donnell BigmanPigman Jun 2022 #10
Definitely so! He could have PREVENTED some of the BS. Since tRump called Pence a p*ssy, Ziggysmom Jun 2022 #11
I agree with Lawrence O'Donnell when he said Pence is NOT a profile BigmanPigman Jun 2022 #12
No faith in that group of believers Mblaze Jun 2022 #13
... trusty elf Jun 2022 #16
I'd put it the opposite way. Scientists and I change beliefs to fit the facts Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2022 #19
To publicly repeat lies after media show the truth, Trump continues to commit counts of fraud. ancianita Jun 2022 #14
I see why the evangelicals and TFG gravitate to each other captain queeg Jun 2022 #15
Dotard Seems to believe that if he insists loudly and long enough that something is the raccoon Jun 2022 #18
When LIES and EVIL INTENT are featured at a "Faith and Freedom" event Martin Eden Jun 2022 #20
"the man who served him as Vice President..." malthaussen Jun 2022 #21

question everything

(47,485 posts)
2. He will never do this but I wonder whether Pence can sue Trump for
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 09:37 PM
Jun 2022

endangering his life. As we saw, as soon as Trump twitted the crowd in the area called him a traitor. I still hope that the person on the clip was identified and charged.

MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
5. FORGET ALL of the 'evidence' presented so far......
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 09:43 PM
Jun 2022

With the WORLD seeing what the J6 Committee has presented - this MORON is STILL out there claiming such absurd statements/lies about ANYTHING?
Sad thing is - we can't even hit him with the 25th Amendment anymore - and maybe there should be a Congressional Hearing about the Cabinet that failed to do what was so obviously in need of happening...

Justice matters.

(6,929 posts)
7. Criminal intent once more for the world to see.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:50 PM
Jun 2022

DOJ should seek a search warrant for incriminating documents, stolen classified ones included, computers and phones at Mar-do-Largo for a Monday morning at 5 surprise raid.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
10. I find myself agreeing with Lawrence O'Donnell
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:07 PM
Jun 2022

and dare I say it, tRump himself. Lawrence said Pence could've help prevent Jan 6 a whole month earlier when he knew about their illegal coup plot but he stayed silent. And tRump said Pence is a "pussy" for not going along with his plot. Pence is a pussy for not speaking up and he still remains silent. Pence is a coward and another GQP asshole driven by personal ambition and the country can die as far as he is concerned. He is not a hero, brave or anything decent. He kept his GQP mouth shut and continues to do so. Fuck him!!!!!!! He is a pussy who doesn't give shit if our democracy dies !!!!!!!!!!!

Ziggysmom

(3,408 posts)
11. Definitely so! He could have PREVENTED some of the BS. Since tRump called Pence a p*ssy,
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:26 PM
Jun 2022

does that mean tRump will grab him there?


BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
12. I agree with Lawrence O'Donnell when he said Pence is NOT a profile
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:29 PM
Jun 2022

in courage but a profile in cowardice. The fucking moron was right, in a way. Pence is a pussy but not for the reason tRump says. He is a coward whose own personal ambition kept him in silence when he knew of the coup plot. He said NOTHINg to warn is. NOTHING! Pence is a pussy and a coward who only cares about his own political career. Fuck him!!!

Mblaze

(260 posts)
13. No faith in that group of believers
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:38 PM
Jun 2022

My man Alan Watts explains the difference between belief and faith.

“We must here make a clear distinction between belief and faith, because, in general practice, belief has come to mean a state of mind which is almost the opposite of faith. Belief, as I use the word here, is the insistence that the truth is what one would “lief” or wish it to be. The believer will open his mind to the truth on the condition that it fits in with his preconceived ideas and wishes. Faith, on the other hand, is an unreserved opening of the mind to the truth, whatever it may turn out to be. Faith has no preconceptions; it is a plunge into the unknown. Belief clings, but faith lets go. In this sense of the word, faith is the essential virtue of science, and likewise of any religion that is not self-deception.”

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
19. I'd put it the opposite way. Scientists and I change beliefs to fit the facts
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 06:13 AM
Jun 2022

Scientists say things like "I believe Newton is more correct about gravity than Einstein. Let's test that by an experiment. Wow, experiment backs Einstein. I now believe Einsein is more correct."

I have a slightly irrational faith in the perfectibility of humans. I get counter evidence from time to time and don't end up changing my faith.

ancianita

(36,060 posts)
14. To publicly repeat lies after media show the truth, Trump continues to commit counts of fraud.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 12:16 AM
Jun 2022

For money.

And sorry, I've not one bit of sympathy for Pence for continuing to put up with it while calling the Jan 6 Committee hearings a distraction theater to keep eyes off Biden.

captain queeg

(10,207 posts)
15. I see why the evangelicals and TFG gravitate to each other
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 12:37 AM
Jun 2022

Nothing to do with morals really, it’s just that the evangelicals are grifters just tile TFG.

raccoon

(31,111 posts)
18. Dotard Seems to believe that if he insists loudly and long enough that something is the
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 05:50 AM
Jun 2022

Seems to believe that if he insists loudly and long enough that something is the truth, It will magically become the truth.

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
20. When LIES and EVIL INTENT are featured at a "Faith and Freedom" event
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 06:44 AM
Jun 2022

It is clear sign of Orwellian dystopia.

malthaussen

(17,200 posts)
21. "the man who served him as Vice President..."
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 08:31 AM
Jun 2022

... Damn, and here I thought the VP was in service to the nation. Okay, a rhetorical quibble, but I think rhetoric can be important in shaping expectations. The Government does not "serve" Der Fuhrer.

-- Mal

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