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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:13 PM Jun 2022

Bitcoin drops below $20,000 as crypto meltdown continues

Source: CNN

The price of bitcoin breached $19,000 and ethereum fell below $1,000 Saturday morning, extending the brutal crypto bear market to new lows.

Bitcoin plunged nearly 10% in less than 24 hours, adding to a series of sustained losses over the last several months. It now sits below $20,000 for the first time since November 2020, down more than 70% from an all-time high of $68,000 per coin in November 2021. B itcoin has lost $900 billion in value since that peak.

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This week, the Federal Reserve increased interest rates by 75 basis points, the largest hike since 1994. The change led to a retreat from all assets. The S&P 500 is also in a bear market and posted its worst week on record since 2020.

The crypto world is reeling from the $60 billion collapse last month of two other major tokens, Terra-Luna and Celsius. Those losses have increased doubts about the general stability of digital currency.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/18/investing/bitcoin-ether-cyrpto-drop/index.html



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Journeyman

(15,035 posts)
1. "Those losses have increased doubts about the general stability of digital currency." . . .
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:16 PM
Jun 2022

As though bitcoin itself weren't enough to foster doubts.

Ocelot II

(115,719 posts)
2. I still don't really know what crypto is, and I'd never buy something
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:19 PM
Jun 2022

I don't understand. But I've even been hearing radio ads about buying crypto for your IRA, which strikes me as monumentally stupid. I suspect a lot of people bought into it without knowing what it was. At least you can have a nice garden if you've bought too many expensive tulip bulbs, but crypto is likely to leave you with bupkes.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
5. It's a virtual currency who's value is determined by the faith
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 02:06 PM
Jun 2022

of people but then so are all currencies.
If people no longer believe in it then it will crash and burn.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
9. Its like the tulip craze of the 1600s all
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 04:59 PM
Jun 2022

over again. At least back then you got some nice tulips out of the deal - something tangible.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
11. "something tangible" Depends on if "our" the universe is real or if its some sort of simulation.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 05:34 PM
Jun 2022

If its a simulation hopefully someone in the "real" world will kick the fucking ass (assuming they have ones) of said programmers along with breaking a few their limbs..................repeatedly.

hunter

(38,316 posts)
12. That's just not true.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 07:57 PM
Jun 2022

The value of actual currencies like the dollar are based on the government's ability to collect taxes, regulate markets, and enforce contracts (defining what sort of contacts are lawful, and which are not...), among other things.

That's not "faith." Nations with so-called "hard" currencies do these things very well and with great consistency. Nations with softer currencies don't.

Cryptocurrencies have none of that backing.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
13. "doubts about the general stability of digital currency"
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 08:49 PM
Jun 2022

Somebody thinks there's stability in digital currency?

Here's how traditional currency is valued: https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/economics/how-is-currency-valued/

Summary:
Currency value is determined by aggregate supply and demand.
Supply and demand are influenced by a number of factors, including interest rates, inflation, capital flow, and money supply.
The most common method to value currency is through exchange rates. The two main exchange rate systems are fixed rate and floating rate systems.


How do people value digital currency?

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
14. Digital currency is too broad a term....
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 09:57 PM
Jun 2022

bitcoin, et.al. is not just "digital currency", it is decentralized and basically unregulated digital currency. Digital currency that is issued and centrally controlled by a legitimate authority, that is, a government, would not have such problems. Or at least not to any greater extent than any other such currency.

Aussie105

(5,401 posts)
15. It was never real money.
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 10:25 PM
Jun 2022

It's value depended entirely on those who wanted to exchange real money for crypto, thinking they were going to turn a profit.

Sorry for your loss, gamblers.

My crypto stash hasn't changed in value. Still $0.


brush

(53,784 posts)
17. Agreed. It's always been a crap shoot, what with the volatility...
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 11:14 AM
Jun 2022

and the many, sudden abscondings and disappearances of funds, never to be seen again.

I'll stick with greenbacks.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
16. Heard an astute comment yesterday from
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 06:27 AM
Jun 2022

a business or market analyst on CNN, iirc. He said what this crash shows is that the cryptocurrencies aren't independent of each other as their marketers claim because not only are the cryptos themselves crashing but so are the companies that trade and sell them. Maybe crypto isn't a traditional Ponzi scheme, but it sure looks similar.

Peachhead22

(1,078 posts)
18. Greater fool theory meets MLMs
Sun Jun 19, 2022, 08:38 PM
Jun 2022

The only way to make money from crypto is to convince someone dumber than you to buy your crypto. That's why you see so many crypto owners evangelizing for crypto and telling people to "hodl" [sic] onto their crypto. They're not hoping for you to get rich. They're trying to leave others holding the bag.

And it's unregulated. So pump and dump schemes are common and totally legal.

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