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Omaha Steve

(99,748 posts)
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:33 AM Jun 2022

Ernst & Young hit with $100 million fine over cheating on ethics tests

Source: Washington Post

Hundreds of employees at the accounting giant shared answers to exams required to maintain their licenses

By Tory Newmyer

Hundreds of auditors at accounting giant Ernst & Young cheated on ethics tests they were required to take to get or maintain their professional licenses, and the company withheld evidence of the misconduct from federal authorities investigating the matter, according to the Securities and Exchange Commission.

In response, the SEC is imposing a $100 million fine on the company, the largest ever on an audit firm, the agency announced Tuesday.

“This action involves breaches of trust by gatekeepers within the gatekeeper entrusted to audit many of our nation’s public companies,” Gurbir Grewal, SEC enforcement director, said in a statement. “It’s simply outrageous that the very professionals responsible for catching cheating by clients cheated on ethics exams of all things.”

In a statement, Ernst & Young admitted to the SEC’s charges and said it is complying with the agency’s penalty.



Ernst & Young's logo is seen in Zurich. (Arnd Wiegmann/Reuters)

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/06/28/ernst-young-cheating-sec-fine/

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Ernst & Young hit with $100 million fine over cheating on ethics tests (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jun 2022 OP
Ethics is for losers. Winners don't have time for ethics IronLionZion Jun 2022 #1
Lose their licenses, including any supervisors who knew or should have known. howardmappel Jun 2022 #2
Exactly. TexasTowelie Jun 2022 #6
Wow, BlueSky3 Jun 2022 #3
WOW! cheating on an ethics test RAB910 Jun 2022 #4
Cheating on an ethics test by an audit firm catrose Jun 2022 #12
That really gets to the heart of the matter. dchill Jun 2022 #5
I'm glad to see fines like this, but too often corporate leaders never get punished. Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #7
Nothing quite more ironic than cheating on an ethics exam. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #8
More ironic, and also moronic. :-) TheRickles Jun 2022 #11
My company had a worker injured at a 3 month injury free celebration. Not as bad, but okaawhatever Jun 2022 #20
I think that falls under "tempting fate". n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #22
Say it ain't so! They were Lehman Bros. accountant harumph Jun 2022 #9
This isn't adding up to me. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #10
Surprised Ernst & Young are complying. I figured they would take it to The Supreme Court. Midnight Writer Jun 2022 #13
Who gets the fine money? 3825-87867 Jun 2022 #14
"Well how else can we afford these fines if we don't cheat?" asked Mr. Ernst of Mr. Young. jaxexpat Jun 2022 #15
The SEC should NOT have fined the company! Wonder Why Jun 2022 #16
Holy shit Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #17
Still too small drmeow Jun 2022 #18
Ethics Exam Test. Question 1: Is it okay to cheat on this exam? Yavin4 Jun 2022 #19
The Ethics exam is one thing, but the MORALS exam? Well, that's different. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #21

howardmappel

(80 posts)
2. Lose their licenses, including any supervisors who knew or should have known.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:39 AM
Jun 2022

Persons involved should also lose their licenses, etc.

TexasTowelie

(112,465 posts)
6. Exactly.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:08 AM
Jun 2022

It's an obvious violation of ethical standards by the employees involved and each one should be fired.

catrose

(5,073 posts)
12. Cheating on an ethics test by an audit firm
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:28 AM
Jun 2022

And NOBODY in the company thought this was weird, not to say wrong?

Lonestarblue

(10,094 posts)
7. I'm glad to see fines like this, but too often corporate leaders never get punished.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:27 AM
Jun 2022

I don’t know that it has gotten worse—I still remember Enron—but I think that overall lawlessness got a lot worse with Trump in office. It was as if his followers and perhaps others knew that he was and is a criminal and, more importantly, always gets away with his crimes.So why should ‘t they?

I hope his impunity is about to come to an end.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
20. My company had a worker injured at a 3 month injury free celebration. Not as bad, but
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 01:56 PM
Jun 2022

an honorable mention.

Midnight Writer

(21,812 posts)
13. Surprised Ernst & Young are complying. I figured they would take it to The Supreme Court.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 12:02 PM
Jun 2022

Supreme Court would probably declare the SEC unconstitutional. I expect them to do that in due course anyway.

3825-87867

(855 posts)
14. Who gets the fine money?
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 12:19 PM
Jun 2022

and what about SEC fines and bank fines and especially when the gov fines corps. Where does the money go? To the general fund so it can be divied up again for business?

Just curious.

jaxexpat

(6,854 posts)
15. "Well how else can we afford these fines if we don't cheat?" asked Mr. Ernst of Mr. Young.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 12:21 PM
Jun 2022

"Shut up! You stupid bean counter. I'm tryin' to think,"" replied Mr. Young.

Wonder Why

(3,263 posts)
16. The SEC should NOT have fined the company!
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 12:43 PM
Jun 2022

They should have fined the top people involved in allowing employees to cheat and failing to report it to the government. And if those top people committed fraud by doing so, those individuals should be charged with crimes.

Now when companies get "convicted" or fined for wrongdoing, the executives walk off scot-free. Sure, they may receive smaller bonuses from the partnership but if they were individually fined, they would have to pay more in taxes when the company "awards" them bigger bonuses from the higher profits and the individuals would more likely become bigger targets of the IRS.

Imagine a personal fine of $10M. The hit to your greed would be a welcome pleasure (for the rest of us, at least) and a personal reminder of what ethics is all about.

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