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BumRushDaShow

(129,132 posts)
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:37 AM Jul 2022

Brittney Griner pleads guilty to drug charges in Russian court

Source: CNN

(CNN) Two-time US Olympic basketball gold medalist Brittney Griner has pleaded guilty to drug charges in a Russian court near Moscow, her lawyers confirmed to CNN on Thursday. Griner, 31, faces up to 10 years in prison under the charge. She left the courtroom without giving any comment to reporters, and her next hearing is set for July 14.

Griner was arrested in February at a Moscow airport after Russian officials say they found cannabis oil in her luggage. The basketball star, who plays in Russia during the WNBA's offseason, has been held since then on drug smuggling charges punishable by up to 10 years in prison. Her trial began last week.

The US State Department has classified Griner as wrongfully detained, and her supporters have called for her release over fears that she is being used as a political pawn amid Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Griner's plea came on the second day of her trial, which began last week, when a prosecutor accused her of smuggling less than a gram of cannabis oil in her luggage.

According to state media agency TASS, prosecutors argue Griner intended to import the drugs into Russia's territory and put the prohibited substances into a backpack and a suitcase. On Wednesday, the White House announced President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris spoke by phone with Griner's wife, Cherelle Griner. Cherelle Griner was "grateful" for the call from Biden and Harris, she said in a statement Wednesday.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/07/europe/brittney-griner-russia-pleads-guilty/index.html

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Brittney Griner pleads guilty to drug charges in Russian court (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 OP
For some marijuana vape cartridges? purr-rat beauty Jul 2022 #1
Dictatorial countries around the world don't play when it comes to what they bill as "illicit drugs" BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #3
And even some that are kind of "nice" bhikkhu Jul 2022 #22
I know growing up BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #24
"For some marijuana vape cartridges?" - The sad thing is... PoliticAverse Jul 2022 #11
empty Slammer Jul 2022 #41
According to reports it was 0.7 grams of oil... PoliticAverse Jul 2022 #47
In no state would she be put in a cage too small to straighten her legs. Sparky 1 Jul 2022 #49
They were probably planted Jilly_in_VA Jul 2022 #2
If they were planted, she'd never plead guilty. jimfields33 Jul 2022 #5
Of course she would obamanut2012 Jul 2022 #6
So instead of 10 years, she'll get 5 years? jimfields33 Jul 2022 #7
Then she would have been given 20 years of hard labor obamanut2012 Jul 2022 #12
You can't really fight in Russian courts. That's the problem. It's not like the USA. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2022 #18
Exactly obamanut2012 Jul 2022 #25
a good many defense lawyers would advise you strongly against such a course stopdiggin Jul 2022 #50
5 years Sgent Jul 2022 #51
I'm not so sure. maxsolomon Jul 2022 #8
She probably put them in her luggage like she said she did. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2022 #10
I think the problem is their conflating CDB to THC & marijuana (as a purposeful decision) BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #15
She admitted she brought them. LisaL Jul 2022 #42
She is a political prisoner just as certainly as Poot poisons and defenestrates his rivals Thomas Hurt Jul 2022 #4
"I was in a rush packing and the cartridges accidentally ended up in my bags." PoliticAverse Jul 2022 #9
My mom accidentally left three cartridges in her small carry-on bag obamanut2012 Jul 2022 #13
"She still does get pulled aside and searched almost every time now" PoliticAverse Jul 2022 #14
hahaha she did obamanut2012 Jul 2022 #27
I'm not sure of that, either 867-5309. Jul 2022 #20
We'll see what she says after she is free and back in the US. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2022 #23
Do they have a distinction Mr. Evil Jul 2022 #16
She has been playing basketball in Russia for the past SEVEN YEARS with no problems.... FM123 Jul 2022 #17
I have no doubt those were hers. People accidentally leave stuff in their bags all the time Dopers_Greed Jul 2022 #19
You never know what accidentally makes it into bags... PoliticAverse Jul 2022 #28
People leave their kids in their car NJCher Jul 2022 #32
I hate to hear this Marthe48 Jul 2022 #21
Considering what's happened to other Americans arrested in Russia... PoliticAverse Jul 2022 #30
Something y'all may not know Jilly_in_VA Jul 2022 #26
Please provide evidence for that claim. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2022 #29
I don't recall where I read it now Jilly_in_VA Jul 2022 #31
If she were in America, she would have been shot by police 60 times. Mawspam2 Jul 2022 #33
10 years for cannabis oil. barbtries Jul 2022 #34
Sorry you lost your daughter Marthe48 Jul 2022 #36
thank you. barbtries Jul 2022 #37
I'm sorry. Elessar Zappa Jul 2022 #38
thank you barbtries Jul 2022 #39
I'm so sorry mvd Jul 2022 #40
Supposedly this will accelerate any possibility for her being eligible for release or trade. mackdaddy Jul 2022 #35
U.S. Secretary Of State Reacts To Brittney Griner Decision Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #43
I believe she was coerced blue-wave Jul 2022 #44
Moscow wants Viktor Bout. It's been mentioned before. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #45
Yup BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #46
20 sounds right. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #48
I found last week's video this morning. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #52
I just found who I apparently saw mentioned who had been sentenced to 20 years BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #53
And a famous sports star gets special treatment ripcord Jul 2022 #54
Griner's support group MADE this into a headline stopdiggin Jul 2022 #55
Paul Whelan has been in a labor camp for over 3 years ripcord Jul 2022 #56
there's a line? like a queue? stopdiggin Jul 2022 #58
No line just Griner is getting special treatment ripcord Jul 2022 #59
because her SUPPORT group raised a big fat stink stopdiggin Jul 2022 #60
So Whelan's family should make a huge stink, I'm sure they could get the republicans behind them ripcord Jul 2022 #61
And Trevor Reed is feeding you stopdiggin Jul 2022 #62
So Whelan can just keep going in the work camp while Griner complains about being locked in a cell? ripcord Jul 2022 #63
"so it can be done, if the administration really wants to" stopdiggin Jul 2022 #64
So they could get Reed out ripcord Jul 2022 #65
Even just Mexico I just had My ID and a credit card and Passport. alphafemale Jul 2022 #57

purr-rat beauty

(543 posts)
1. For some marijuana vape cartridges?
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:39 AM
Jul 2022

That's a shame, I hope there's a way out of this

Don't be an idiot in other countries! Some have very bad consequences

I'm sure this is also political

BumRushDaShow

(129,132 posts)
3. Dictatorial countries around the world don't play when it comes to what they bill as "illicit drugs"
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:00 AM
Jul 2022

(even when they really aren't)

And in her case - she has everything going against her as something that Pootie would loathe - being an American black married gay woman now in his clutches, all while he is being pummeled with bruising sanctions from this country.

So it's definitely escalated into being "political".

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
22. And even some that are kind of "nice"
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:58 AM
Jul 2022

Like Singapore, for instance, where trafficking is potentially a death sentence. Of course it wasn't really trafficking, and it's absurd that it would come to that for a few vape cartridges, but you don't want to wind up having to tell that to a judge in a foreign country.

Russia is pretty backwards on drug policies, but then so is most of Asia, and so was the US until very recently. Still is, some places.

BumRushDaShow

(129,132 posts)
24. I know growing up
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:09 PM
Jul 2022

the "scary" warnings about overseas charges centered around the infamous "Turkish prisons". For example this incident that happened in the early '70s -

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
11. "For some marijuana vape cartridges?" - The sad thing is...
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:27 AM
Jul 2022

in some states in the US she could face a similar penalty for the same thing.

Slammer

(714 posts)
41. empty
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 05:19 PM
Jul 2022

For empty marijuana vape cartridges?

Might I inquire state you think has such a law on the books so I can look up that law and read it for myself?

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
47. According to reports it was 0.7 grams of oil...
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 09:35 PM
Jul 2022

I am unable to find the specific type/concentration of the oil allegedly involved.

In Texas (from: https://tylerflood.com/news/understanding-thc-concentrates-laws/ )

Section 481.002(26) of Texas Penal Code categorizes THC extract as a penalty group 2 drug, as a result of which the use, possession, and transportation of the substance is considered a felony, not a misdemeanor.

The quantum of punishment generally depends on the amount of THC concentrates you possess.

If the amount of THC you posses is less than one gram, it is considered a felony, the punishment for which can be up to two years in jail and a penalty of $10,000.
If it is between 1 to 4 grams, it is considered a third-degree felony, the punishment for which can be up to 10 years in prison and a penalty of $10,000.
If it is between 4 to 400 grams, it is considered a second-degree felony, the punishment for which can be up to 20 years in prison and a penalty of $10,000.
If it is 400 grams or more, it is considered a first-degree felony, the punishment for which can be anywhere from 5 to 99 years in prison and a penalty of $50,000.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,983 posts)
2. They were probably planted
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:53 AM
Jul 2022

but I think she did this to either lessen her sentence or get out sooner. I hope anyway.

jimfields33

(15,830 posts)
5. If they were planted, she'd never plead guilty.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:13 AM
Jul 2022

She now may end up with 10 years for not fighting for her innocence if she was? I’d fight to the end if I were innocent.

obamanut2012

(26,081 posts)
6. Of course she would
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:14 AM
Jul 2022

Plead guilty, a shorter sentence and maybe a chance to get traded.

Refuse to plead guilty, get longer sentence no chance of a trade.

She's played there for many years, she knows what's going on and so does her attorney.

This was a show trail, and I tend to believe she didn't have cannabis carts.

obamanut2012

(26,081 posts)
12. Then she would have been given 20 years of hard labor
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:31 AM
Jul 2022

In someplace like Siberia. You would have been fighting nothing except the cold and the miserableness.

That is what would have happened to her, and it would have also happened to you. This was a show trial, they want their arms dealer back. Griner and her attorney did the best they could in these circumstances.

stopdiggin

(11,320 posts)
50. a good many defense lawyers would advise you strongly against such a course
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:49 PM
Jul 2022

even in our US judicial system. You are plainly setting yourself up for a more onerous punishment. (both here and there)

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
51. 5 years
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 04:10 AM
Jul 2022

and is now eligible for a prisoner swap -- we want her and a former marine who was arrested on trumped up espionage charges back and have a prisoner that Russia wants back. She could be walking free within a month of her sentancing.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
8. I'm not so sure.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:20 AM
Jul 2022

I can see a scenario where she had CBD cartridges among the others and forgot that they're contraband - since they're not here. Or she thought she was a VIP (she is) and wouldn't be subject to a drug dog search.

We'll never know until she's out of the country, and maybe not then.

I feel like this is a necessary move, and will lead to a release fairly soon.

BumRushDaShow

(129,132 posts)
15. I think the problem is their conflating CDB to THC & marijuana (as a purposeful decision)
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:40 AM
Jul 2022

so I expect that is what she had with her... and for countries like Russia (even with her having played for teams there), that was going to be an issue.

She wasn't born when the film "White Knights" came out, and although it took place before glasnost and perestroika, it is still instructive on how blacks are treated there (as shown with the character that Gregory Hines played).

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
9. "I was in a rush packing and the cartridges accidentally ended up in my bags."
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:25 AM
Jul 2022

From: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brittney-griner-russia-guilty-court-marijuana-accidentally/

"I would like to plead guilty on the charges against me, but I had no intention on breaking any Russian law," she said in court. "I was in a rush packing and the cartridges accidentally ended up in my bags."

obamanut2012

(26,081 posts)
13. My mom accidentally left three cartridges in her small carry-on bag
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:36 AM
Jul 2022

She would also use it as her range bag, and the bullets were stuck under the flap bags can have on the bottom. TSA freaked the hell out and wanted her arrested, but the LEOs there (Pittsburgh) roared with laughter and let her go. She still does get pulled aside and searched almost every time now, even with Global Entry.

The best part: this was on the RETURN trip, so she made it through the TSA at Charlotte.

My mother is the most law abiding citizen I know, and she made this mistake. I believe Griner, especially since she has lived there for so long.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
14. "She still does get pulled aside and searched almost every time now"
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:39 AM
Jul 2022

Sounds like she made the TSA's naughty list.

 

867-5309.

(1,189 posts)
20. I'm not sure of that, either
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:51 AM
Jul 2022

Russia carries a 99% conviction rate, and acquitted people can be found guilty on appeal. She could be saying whatever she had to say for a shorter sentence and better conditions.

Mr. Evil

(2,849 posts)
16. Do they have a distinction
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:48 AM
Jul 2022

between simple possession and smuggling? Russia is a fucked up place so we won't know what's really going on until we hear it from her.

Per the article: "A prosecutor accused her of smuggling less than a gram of cannabis oil in her luggage." And, "prosecutors argue Griner intended to import the drugs into Russia's territory..."

Less than a gram!? Yeah, I'm so sure that's going to really fuck up Russia more than it already is. It just seems she's being railroaded and made to agree to this, that or the other as a political pawn and that they're so concerned about their people's well being.

Fucking Russia. Where it's ok to be an arm of an unscrupulous oligarch and/or member of the Russian Mob and wreak havoc every day but, allegedly possess less than a gram of cannabis oil and it's off to the gulag for you!

Sheesh!

FM123

(10,053 posts)
17. She has been playing basketball in Russia for the past SEVEN YEARS with no problems....
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:49 AM
Jul 2022

Then all of a sudden - seven days before they invade Ukraine - they find something in her luggage and take her into custody? Shady.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
19. I have no doubt those were hers. People accidentally leave stuff in their bags all the time
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:51 AM
Jul 2022

I flew last month and the person behind me in had a knife in their bag that they forgot about.

NJCher

(35,688 posts)
32. People leave their kids in their car
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:58 PM
Jul 2022

There was a story posted at DU about a week ago where a guy shot himself in the woods because he discovered he'd left his baby in the back seat and the infant died.

I read a lot of stories about memory because I think mine is so bad. My friends tell me otherwise, but I think it is. I do a lot of stuff on automatic pilot.

That might have been what happened to Brittney. Let's face it, packing is not the most scintillating task in the world. And maybe she didn't see any of those horrible movies about drug arrests in Turkey.

I just know every time I see her on TV or in a photograph, I think about this person with such talent and ability, sitting in a Russian prison cell, doing absolutely nothing with the talents and abilities she was born with. What a total waste of human potential.



Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
21. I hate to hear this
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:52 AM
Jul 2022

I hope she isn't mistreated. I hope she is deported rather than jailed. I really hate putin and his thugs.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
30. Considering what's happened to other Americans arrested in Russia...
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:47 PM
Jul 2022

and the current situation between the US and Russia it seems unlikely she will be deported (unless Putin wants to make a "grand gesture" ). Most likely she'd have to be swapped like Trevor Reed was (see: https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/politics/trevor-reed-russia/index.html ).


Jilly_in_VA

(9,983 posts)
26. Something y'all may not know
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:13 PM
Jul 2022

is that the owner of the team she played for in Ekaterinburg is currently on Vlad's "naughty list". She is/was pretty much the star of the team so this is a good way to get back at him.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,983 posts)
31. I don't recall where I read it now
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 12:53 PM
Jul 2022

His name is Iskander Makhmudov. He is an Uzbek-born businessman, tremendously wealthy (of course), from a Muslin family. IIRC he had a yacht seized somewhere. I can't lay hands on the article I read about him being on the naughty list, however.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
34. 10 years for cannabis oil.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 01:34 PM
Jul 2022

the woman who killed my daughter got 4.

i thought we handed out some draconian sentences. well, we do, but this? is fucked up.

mackdaddy

(1,527 posts)
35. Supposedly this will accelerate any possibility for her being eligible for release or trade.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 02:01 PM
Jul 2022

On the reporting on MSNBC this morning one reporter was saying the by pleading guilty and no intent to commit a crime that this accelerates the process and that she was going to be found guilty by the Russian system any way. They were saying that once she had gone through the court system that she could then be at a status where being expelled or traded would be possible.

If that is the case, then she is one step closer to getting out, politically at least.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,036 posts)
43. U.S. Secretary Of State Reacts To Brittney Griner Decision
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 06:45 PM
Jul 2022

WNBA superstar Brittney Griner pleaded guilty to drug charges in a Moscow court on Thursday. As a result, she could face up to 10 years in prison.

Despite her guilty plea, the United States government maintains that Griner was "wrongfully detained" by Russian officials.

U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken emphasized the government's commitment to getting Griner home.

"[U.S. Russian Embassy] officials again attended Brittney Griner’s trial today and delivered to her a letter from President Biden. We will not relent until Brittney, Paul Whelan, and all other wrongfully detained Americans are reunited with their loved ones," he wrote on Twitter after today's plea.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-secretary-of-state-reacts-to-brittney-griner-decision/ar-AAZkb9h

blue-wave

(4,356 posts)
44. I believe she was coerced
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 07:21 PM
Jul 2022

Likely for favored treatment in prison and/or for expediting her release and return home. The russians badly wanted and will use this guilty plea to rage with their anti-American, anti-west and anti-Ukrainian propaganda. Count on it.

BumRushDaShow

(129,132 posts)
53. I just found who I apparently saw mentioned who had been sentenced to 20 years
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 09:50 AM
Jul 2022

and released in a trade - Konstantin Yaroshenko...

Trevor Reed says US should trade Viktor Bout if it will free Americans held in Russia


By Patrick Reevell, James Hill, and Bill Hutchinson
May 23, 2022, 5:49 PM

(snip)

“With this determination, the Special Presidential Envoy for Hostage Affairs Roger Carstens will lead the interagency team for securing Brittney Griner’s release," a U.S. State Department spokesperson told ABC News this month.

Reed was released from a Russian prison on April 27 when the Biden administration orchestrated a prisoner exchange with the Russian government for Konstantin Yaroshenko, a pilot from Russia who was sentenced in 2011 to 20 years in prison for conspiring to smuggle cocaine into the United States.

(snip)

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trevor-reed-us-trade-viktor-bout-free-americans/story?id=84900081

ripcord

(5,409 posts)
54. And a famous sports star gets special treatment
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:20 AM
Jul 2022

The President is being very visible on this because she is a sports star, it is good that Paul Whelan's family is calling out the administration over the hypocrisy.

stopdiggin

(11,320 posts)
55. Griner's support group MADE this into a headline
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:04 PM
Jul 2022

not Joe Biden. Biden (and every part of his administration plus any channels or negotiations that might be entail) would have clearly preferred this stay low key. If there is any 'hypocrisy' involved here I think you need to be looking in another direction.

Meanwhile Griner's WNBA coach is giving interviews declaring that, "if this were LeBron - he's already home .."
So - that's real helpful ... According to this reading - the problem is that Brittney is not famous enough - or doesn't have the proper amount of testosterone in her bloodstream, or - whatever.

ripcord

(5,409 posts)
56. Paul Whelan has been in a labor camp for over 3 years
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:17 PM
Jul 2022

The U.S. has declared him to be wrongfully detained, why is Griner more important and moved to the front of the line? Why haven't the President and Vice President contacted his family by phone? Why was Whelan left behind in the last prisoner swap even though he had been detained longer than Reed?

stopdiggin

(11,320 posts)
58. there's a line? like a queue?
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:28 PM
Jul 2022

dear lord. Never mind! I don't think I feel like doing this ...
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stopdiggin

(11,320 posts)
60. because her SUPPORT group raised a big fat stink
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:39 PM
Jul 2022
publicly (which will probably end up being counterproductive - unless a phone call from Biden is your 'measure of success') And the media was gullible enough to pounce all over it. Where Biden ended up with his tit in a wringer about all this - I guess remains the province of the gullible and shiny trinkets.

But we've all got phone calls now, so .. Yippee!!

ripcord

(5,409 posts)
61. So Whelan's family should make a huge stink, I'm sure they could get the republicans behind them
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:48 PM
Jul 2022

since he was ignored in the last swap and Griner is taking center stage this time around. Even Trevor Reed said the first priority should be Whelan and that Biden hasn't done enough to get him out, you would think someone in the White House wouldn't be tone deaf.

stopdiggin

(11,320 posts)
62. And Trevor Reed is feeding you
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 11:16 PM
Jul 2022

(and the rest of the world who will listen) this assembly line, conveyor belt picture - that there is a queue, and people entitled to a place in the line, first come, first served (just like the drive up at Burger King) ...

And I am saying to you - that is a mountainous load of twaddle. It has nothing to do with an administration that is tone deaf (or unmotivated) - rather than a bunch of people bleating around on the media that really have little or no idea what they are talking about.

And - given the state of affairs between Washington and Moscow at this juncture ... Their blathering about makes even less sense than it did when we had more or less normal diplomatic relations.

But, yeah - let's all give Joe Biden a good healthy kick ... Because then I'm sure we'll all feel so much better! (won't do much for Griner, or anybody else in Putin's clutches right now. But, hey ..!)

ripcord

(5,409 posts)
63. So Whelan can just keep going in the work camp while Griner complains about being locked in a cell?
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 11:24 PM
Jul 2022

Biden was wrong to leave Whelan behind last time and now all the focus in on getting Griner out, the US has failed Whelan and gone on to someone else who is shiny and new. Who would have though getting released from wrongful detention in Russia was actually a popularity contest? Trevor Reed was released during in April during the invasion of Ukraine so it can be done, if the administration really wants to.

stopdiggin

(11,320 posts)
64. "so it can be done, if the administration really wants to"
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 11:50 PM
Jul 2022

Utter and complete bullsh*t! And I don't care who is feeding you the manure. It's still total crap.

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ripcord

(5,409 posts)
65. So they could get Reed out
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 12:05 AM
Jul 2022

And they are going full steam to get Griner out, hopefully Whelan will live through his time in the labor camp. It would be nice if the White House at least included Whelan in their statements about working to get Griner out but then they would have to publicly discuss leaving him hostage in Russia. Whelan asked the President why he was left behind, he received no response but of course the President is going to make the time to respond to Griner's letter, I wonder why Whelan, his family and supporters feel they are being ignored.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
57. Even just Mexico I just had My ID and a credit card and Passport.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:27 PM
Jul 2022

You do not ever try to sneak shit.

Oh my gawd.

I realize she maybe thought she had super special status.

And we are in no way giving that international terrorist arms dealer for her

No. Flat no. .

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