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BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 08:33 AM Jul 2022

June jobs report: Payrolls rise by 372,000 as unemployment holds at 3.6%

Source: Yahoo! Finance

The U.S. labor market remained strong in June, even as the Federal Reserve tightened monetary conditions and some companies warned of layoffs. The Labor Department released its latest monthly jobs report at 8:30 a.m. ET on Friday. Here were the main metrics from the print, compared to consensus estimates compiled by Bloomberg:

  • Non-farm payrolls: +372,000 vs. +268,000 expected

  • Unemployment rate: 3.6% vs. 3.6% expected

  • Average hourly earnings, month-over-month: +0.3% vs. +0.3% expected

  • Average hourly earnings, year-over-year: +5.1% vs. +5.0% expected


  • In the previous jobs report, U.S. payrolls rose by 390,000 in May, while the unemployment rate held at a steady 3.6%. Prior to June and May's releases, the U.S. economy had added at least 400,000 jobs each month over the last year, bringing employment within 1% of pre-pandemic levels. Although employment growth is showing signs of abating, monthly figures remain robust on a historical basis -- monthly payroll averaged about 164,000 per month in 2019.

    The Labor Department's June report comes as investors worry about rising costs associated with inflation and higher interest rates, raising the specter of a potential recession hitting the labor market.

    Read more: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/june-jobs-report-july-8-2022-211628954.html



    TGIF to all and stand by for DU's resident economy watchers to provide the data and deep dives.

    WaPo (live update) -

    Unemployment rate remains at pandemic low of 3.6 percent

    By Abha Bhattarai8:31 a.m.


    Job growth remained strong even as it continued to slow in June, with U.S. employers adding 372,000 new positions, according to a new Labor Department report released this morning. The unemployment rate remained unchanged at 3.6 percent.

    “The labor market is still running hot even though the temperature has come down by a few degrees,” said Daniel Zhao, senior economist at Glassdoor. “We did see recession concerns pick up significantly in June, but labor demand seems to be holding up.”

    The latest figures underscore the strength of a labor market that has rapidly rebounded after more than 20 million people lost their jobs in the first months of the pandemic. But after months of unprecedented growth and decades-high inflation, the focus has shifted to cooling the economy enough to a more even-keeled pace.

    “What we see in the last few months of data are a strong labor market and also one that’s beginning to make the transition from historic economic recovery to steady, stable growth,” a senior White House official said in a Thursday media briefing ahead of the unemployment report.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/07/08/jobs-report-june-2022/#link-DUCGSIDJZBB6VLUVS5Z73Z6WPE
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    June jobs report: Payrolls rise by 372,000 as unemployment holds at 3.6% (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 OP
    Links to earlier reports: mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2022 #1
    Links to some BLS Data Series Numbers and Graphs progree Jul 2022 #2
    Good morning. From the source: mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2022 #3
    Good morning BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #5
    This is the best job market in US history Johnny2X2X Jul 2022 #4
    Woohoo! truthisfreedom Jul 2022 #6
    My oldest son's partner was laid off from his job yesterday mnhtnbb Jul 2022 #7
    And yet the Atlanta Federal Reserve is predicting Q2 GDP will decline 1.9% progree Jul 2022 #8
    I like this article from a couple years ago from the Philly Fed BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #10
    this stuck out -- progree Jul 2022 #11
    As a longtime weather hobbyist BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #12
    He said that? progree Jul 2022 #13
    "But maybe he's calling January and February of 2020 pandemic era," BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #16
    Or he said we recovered all of the PRIVATE sector jobs lost, which is true without any stretching progree Jul 2022 #17
    LOL BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #19
    Thanks for those links everyone! LittleGirl Jul 2022 #9
    Yahoo Finance: Jobs data 'make a mockery' of recession fears: Economists react to Jobs report progree Jul 2022 #14
    Oh, here's what Roach is talking about: "Not In Labor Force" increased by 4.8 million since Jan 2020 progree Jul 2022 #15
    Prime age Labor Force Participation Rate down 0.8 percentage points from pre-pandemic peak progree Jul 2022 #20
    What is also interesting that is going on BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #18
    The worker shortage: Looks like older workers retiring or not finding jobs progree Jul 2022 #21
    Jobs data 'make a mockery' of recession fears: Economists react to June's employment report mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2022 #22

    mahatmakanejeeves

    (57,489 posts)
    1. Links to earlier reports:
    Fri Jul 8, 2022, 08:38 AM
    Jul 2022

    Fri Jul 8, 2022: Links to earlier reports (this one):

    Wed Jul 6, 2022: ADP has suspended its report until September.

    Fri Jun 3, 2022: Links to earlier reports:

    Wed Jun 1, 2022: Links to earlier reports:

    Fri May 6, 2022: Links to earlier reports

    Wed May 4, 2022: Links to earlier reports:

    Fri Apr 1, 2022: Links to earlier reports:

    Wed Mar 30, 2022: Links to earlier reports:

    Fri Mar 4, 2022: Links to earlier reports:

    Wed Mar 2, 2022: Links to earlier reports:

    Fri Feb 4, 2022: Links to earlier reports:

    Wed Feb 2, 2022: Links to earlier reports:

    Wed Jan 12, 2022: Links to earlier reports:

    Wed Jan 5, 2022: Links to earlier reports:

    Sat Dec 4, 2021: Links to earlier reports:

    Wed Dec 1, 2021: Links to additional earlier reports:

    Fri Nov 5, 2021: (I had to split the links into two posts, due to "Forbidden 403" issues)

    Links to earlier reports:

    Links to additional earlier reports:

    Wed Nov 3, 2021: Links to earlier reports:

    Fri Oct 8, 2021: Links to earlier reports:

    Wed Oct 6, 2021: Links to earlier reports:

    Fri Sep 3, 2021: Links to earlier reports:

    Thu Sep 2, 2021 (in the Friday, August 6, BLS thread): Links to earlier reports:

    Wed Aug 4, 2021: Links to earlier reports:

    Sat Jul 10, 2021: Links to earlier reports:

    Wed Jun 30, 2021: Links to earlier reports:

    Fri Jun 4, 2021: Links to earlier reports:

    Thu Jun 3, 2021: Links to earlier reports:

    -- -- -- -- -- --

    [center]Past Performance is Not a Guarantee of Future Results.[/center]

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, for employment in June 2022 (this one):

    June jobs report: Payrolls rise by 372,000 as unemployment holds at 3.6%

    ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in May 2022:

    ADP has suspended its report until September.

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, for employment in May 2022:

    May jobs report: Payrolls rise by 390,000 as unemployment holds at 3.6%

    ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in May 2022:

    U.S. Treasury yields fall as data show slowest job growth in pandemic recovery

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, for employment in April 2022:

    April jobs report: Payrolls rise by 428,000 as unemployment rate holds at 3.6%

    [ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in April 2022:

    U.S. Companies Added 247,000 Jobs in April, ADP Data Show

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, for employment in March 2022:

    U.S. economy adds 431,000 jobs in March

    ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in March 2022:

    Private payrolls rose by 455,000 in March, topping expectations: ADP

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, for employment in February 2022:

    February jobs report: Payrolls rise by 678,000 as unemployment rate falls to 3.8%

    ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in February 2022:

    Private payrolls rose by 475,000 in February, topping expectations: ADP

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, for employment in January 2022:

    January jobs report: Payrolls jump by 467,000 as unemployment rate rises to 4.0%

    ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in January 2022:

    Companies unexpectedly cut 301,000 jobs in January as omicron slams jobs market, ADP says

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, for employment in December 2021:

    December jobs report: Payrolls rise by 199,000 as unemployment rate falls to 3.9%

    ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in December 2021:

    December private payrolls rose by 807,000, far exceeding expectations: ADP

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, for employment in November 2021:

    U.S. economy adds just 210,000 jobs in November

    ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in November 2021:

    November private payrolls rose by 534,000 topping expectations: ADP

    Nonetheless, what is important is not this month's results, but the trend. Let’s look at some earlier numbers:

    ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in November 2021:

    November private payrolls rose by 534,000 topping expectations: ADP

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, for employment in October 2021:

    October jobs report: Payrolls grew by 531,000 as unemployment rate fell to 4.6%

    ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in October 2021:

    October private payrolls rose by 571,000, topping expectations: ADP

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, for employment in September 2021:

    Yahoo Finance September jobs report: Economy adds back disappointing 194,000 jobs, unemployment rate

    ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in September 2021

    September private payrolls rose by 568,000, topping estimates: ADP

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, for employment in August 2021:

    August jobs report: Payrolls rise by disappointing 235,000 while unemployment rate falls to 5.2%

    ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in August 2021:

    August private payrolls rose by 374,000, missing estimates: ADP

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, for employment in July 2021:

    July jobs report: Economy adds back 943,000 payrolls, unemployment rate falls to 5.4%

    ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in July 2021:

    Private payrolls rose by 330,000 in July, missing estimates: ADP

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, for employment in June 2021:

    U.S. economy added 850,000 jobs in June as labor market showed renewed strength

    ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in June 2021:

    Private payrolls increased by 692,000 in June, beating expectations: ADP

    Bureau of Labor Statistics, for employment in May 2021:

    U.S. economy adds 559,000 jobs in May, as the recovery shows signs of strength

    ADP® (Automatic Data Processing), for employment in May 2021:

    Private-sector employment increased by 978,000 from April to May, on a seasonally adjusted basis.

    progree

    (10,909 posts)
    2. Links to some BLS Data Series Numbers and Graphs
    Fri Jul 8, 2022, 08:41 AM
    Jul 2022

    Last edited Sun Jul 10, 2022, 10:46 PM - Edit history (3)

    Every one of these data series comes with a table and graph.

    # Nonfarm Employment (Establishment Survey, https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001
    Monthly changes (in thousands): https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth
       NOT SEASONALLY ADJUSTED: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CEU0000000001

    # Employed in thousands from the separate Household Survey, http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12000000
    Monthly changes (in thousands): http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12000000?output_view=net_1mth
       NOT SEASONALLY ADJUSTED: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU02000000

    # Nonfarm PRIVATE Employment (Establishment Survey, https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001
    Monthly changes: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001?output_view=net_1mth
        ^-Good for comparison to the ADP report that typically comes out a few days earlier
    NOT SEASONALLY ADJUSTED: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CEU0500000001

    # INFLATION ADJUSTED Weekly Earnings of Production and Non-Supervisory Workers http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000031

    # Labor Force http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11000000?output_view=net_1mth

    The labor force is the sum of employed and unemployed. To count as unemployed, one must have actively sought work in the past 4 weeks (just looking at want ads and job postings doesn't count)

    # ETPR (Employment-To-Population Ratio) aka Employment Rate http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12300000

    # LFPR (Labor Force Participation rate) http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

    Unemployed, Unemployment Rate
    # Unemployed http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS13000000
    # Unemployment rate http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
        # Black unemployment rate (%), https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006
        # Hispanic or Latino unemployment rate (%), https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000009
        # White unemployment rate (%), https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000003
    # U-6 unemployment rate http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS13327709
    ------------ end unemployed, unemployment rates --------

    # NILF -- Not in Labor Forcehttp://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS15000000

    # NILF-WJ -- Not in Labor Force, Wants Job http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS15026639

    # Part-Time Workers who want Full-Time Jobs (Table A-8's Part-Time For Economic Reasons) http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12032194

    # Part-Time Workers (Table A-9) http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12600000

    # Full-Time Workers (Table A-9) http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12500000

    # Multiple Jobholders as a Percent of Employed (Table A-9) https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12026620

    # Civilian non-institutional population
    Seasonally adjusted (they seem to have gotten rid of this) https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS10000000
    NOT seasonally adjusted: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU00000000


    LFPR - Labor Force Participation Rate for some age groups
    The LFPR is the Employed + jobless people who have looked for work in the last 4 weeks (and say they want a job and are able to take one if offered). All divided by the civilian non-institutional population age 16+.
    SA means Seasonally adjusted. NSA means Not Seasonally Adjusted
    16+: SA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000 NSA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU01300000
    25-34: SA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300089 NSA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU01300089
    25-54: SA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300060 NSA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU01300060
    55-64: -------------------- NSA: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU01300095
    55+: SA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11324230 NSA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU01324230
    65+: SA: ---------------- NSA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU01300097

    LFPR - Labor Force Particpation Rate (prime age 25-54) by gender
    All: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300060
    Men: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300061
    Women: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300062

    ETPR - Employment to Population Ratio for some age groups
    SA means Seasonally adjusted. NSA means Not Seasonally Adjusted
    16+: SA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12300000 NSA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU02300000
    25-34: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12300089 NSA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU02300089
    25-54: SA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12300060 NSA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU02300060
    55-64: SA: ---------------- NSA: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU02300095
    55+: SA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12324230 NSA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU02324230
    65+: SA: ---------------- NSA: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU02300097

    Inflation rate (CPI)
    . . . Monthly report: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm
    . . . The Data Series: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR0000SA0
    . . . . . . Monthly changes: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR0000SA0?output_view=pct_1mth
    . . . Calculator at: https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

    Grocery prices (food at home) inflation compared to overall inflation rate
    . . . . . https://www.in2013dollars.com/Food-at-home/price-inflation
    . . . From 1947 to 2021 and from 2000 to 2021, food at home inflation very slightly lagged the overall inflation rate
    . . . . . https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142735789

    Data series finder: https://www.bls.gov/data/#employment

    The entire report: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

    Archives of previous reports - The monthly payroll employment reports from the BLS are archived at Archived News Releases (https://www.bls.gov/bls/news-release/ ). In the list up at the top, under Major Economic Indicators, select Employment Situation ( https://www.bls.gov/bls/news-release/empsit.htm ). That opens up links to reports going back to 1994. Hat tip Mahatmakanejeeves.

    mahatmakanejeeves

    (57,489 posts)
    3. Good morning. From the source:
    Fri Jul 8, 2022, 08:46 AM
    Jul 2022
    Payroll employment rises by 372,000 in June; unemployment rate remains at 3.6%

    Economic News Release USDL-22-1443

    Employment Situation Summary
    Transmission of material in this news release is embargoed until 8:30 a.m. (ET) Friday, July 8, 2022

    Technical information:
    Household data: (202) 691-6378 * cpsinfo@bls.gov * www.bls.gov/cps
    Establishment data: (202) 691-6555 * cesinfo@bls.gov * www.bls.gov/ces

    Media contact: (202) 691-5902 * PressOffice@bls.gov


    THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- JUNE 2022


    Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 372,000 in June, and the unemployment rate remained at 3.6 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Notable job gains occurred in professional and business services, leisure and hospitality, and health care.

    This news release presents statistics from two monthly surveys. The household survey measures labor force status, including unemployment, by demographic characteristics. The establishment survey measures nonfarm employment, hours, and earnings by industry. For more information about the concepts and statistical methodology used in these two surveys, see the Technical Note.

    Household Survey Data

    The unemployment rate was 3.6 percent for the fourth month in a row, and the number of unemployed persons was essentially unchanged at 5.9 million in June. These measures are little different from their values in February 2020 (3.5 percent and 5.7 million, respectively), prior to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic. (See table A-1.)

    Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rate for Asians increased to 3.0 percent in June. The jobless rates for adult men (3.3 percent), adult women (3.3 percent), teenagers (11.0 percent), Whites (3.3 percent), Blacks (5.8 percent), and Hispanics (4.3 percent) showed little or no change over the month. (See tables A-1, A-2, and A-3.)

    Among the unemployed, both the number of permanent job losers, at 1.3 million in June, and the number of persons on temporary layoff, at 827,000, changed little over the month. These measures are little different from their values in February 2020. (See table A-11.)

    In June, the number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks or more) was essentially unchanged at 1.3 million. This measure is 215,000 higher than in February 2020. The long-term unemployed accounted for 22.6 percent of all unemployed persons in June. (See table A-12.)

    The labor force participation rate, at 62.2 percent, and the employment-population ratio,
    at 59.9 percent, were little changed over the month. Both measures remain below their
    February 2020 values (63.4 percent and 61.2 percent, respectively). (See table A-1.)

    The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons declined by 707,000 to 3.6 million in June and is below its February 2020 level of 4.4 million. These individuals, who would have preferred full-time employment, were working part time because their hours had been reduced or they were unable to find full-time jobs. (See table A-8.)

    The number of persons not in the labor force who currently want a job was essentially unchanged at 5.7 million in June. This measure is above its February 2020 level of 5.0 million. These individuals were not counted as unemployed because they were not actively looking for work during the 4 weeks preceding the survey or were unavailable to take a job. (See table A-1.)

    Among those not in the labor force who wanted a job, the number of persons marginally attached to the labor force, at 1.5 million, was essentially unchanged in June. These individuals wanted and were available for work and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months but had not looked for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey. Discouraged workers, a subset of the marginally attached who believed that no jobs were available for them, numbered 364,000 in June, little changed from the prior month. (See Summary table A.)

    Household Survey Supplemental Data

    In June, 7.1 percent of employed persons teleworked because of the coronavirus pandemic, down from 7.4 percent in the prior month. These data refer to employed persons who teleworked or worked at home for pay at some point in the 4 weeks preceding the survey specifically because of the pandemic.

    In June, 2.1 million persons reported that they had been unable to work because their employer closed or lost business due to the pandemic--that is, they did not work at all or worked fewer hours at some point in the 4 weeks preceding the survey due to the pandemic. This measure is up from 1.8 million in the previous month. Among those who reported in June that they were unable to work because of pandemic-related closures or lost business, 24.8 percent received at least some pay from their employer for the hours not worked, little different from the previous month.

    Among those not in the labor force in June, 610,000 persons were prevented from looking for work due to the pandemic, up from 455,000 in the prior month. (To be counted as unemployed, by definition, individuals must be either actively looking for work or on temporary layoff.)

    These supplemental data come from questions added to the household survey beginning in May 2020 to help gauge the effects of the pandemic on the labor market. The data are not seasonally adjusted. Tables with estimates from the supplemental questions for all months are available online at www.bls.gov/cps/effects-of-the-coronavirus-covid-19-pandemic.htm.

    Establishment Survey Data

    Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 372,000 in June, in line with the average monthly gain over the prior 3 months (+383,000). In June, notable job growth occurred in professional and business services, leisure and hospitality, and health care. (See table B-1.)

    Total nonfarm employment is down by 524,000, or 0.3 percent, from its pre-pandemic level in February 2020. Private-sector employment has recovered the net job losses due to the pandemic and is 140,000 higher than in February 2020, while government employment is 664,000 lower.

    Employment in professional and business services continued to grow, with an increase of 74,000 in June. Within the industry, job growth occurred in management of companies and enterprises (+12,000), computer systems design and related services (+10,000), office administrative services (+8,000), and scientific research and development services (+6,000). Employment in professional and business services is 880,000 higher than in February 2020.

    In June, leisure and hospitality added 67,000 jobs, as growth continued in food services and drinking places (+41,000). However, employment in leisure and hospitality is down by 1.3 million, or 7.8 percent, since February 2020.

    Employment in health care rose by 57,000 in June, including gains in ambulatory health care services (+28,000), hospitals (+21,000), and nursing and residential care facilities (+8,000). Employment in health care overall is below its February 2020 level by 176,000, or 1.1 percent.

    In June, transportation and warehousing added 36,000 jobs. Employment rose in warehousing and storage (+18,000) and air transportation (+8,000). Employment in transportation and warehousing is 759,000 above its February 2020 level.

    Employment in manufacturing increased by 29,000 in June and has returned to its February 2020 level.

    Information added 25,000 jobs in June, including a gain of 9,000 jobs in publishing industries, except Internet. Employment in information is 105,000 higher than in February 2020.

    In June, employment in social assistance rose by 21,000. Employment continued to trend up in child day care services (+11,000) and in individual and family services (+10,000). Employment in social assistance is down by 87,000, or 2.0 percent, since February 2020.

    Wholesale trade added 16,000 jobs in June, including 8,000 in nondurable goods. Employment in wholesale trade is down by 18,000, or 0.3 percent, since February 2020.

    Mining employment rose by 5,000 in June, with a gain in oil and gas extraction (+2,000). Mining employment is 86,000 above a recent low in February 2021.

    Employment showed little change over the month in other major industries, including construction, retail trade, financial activities, other services, and government.

    In June, average hourly earnings for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls rose by 10 cents, or 0.3 percent, to $32.08. Over the past 12 months, average hourly earnings have increased by 5.1 percent. In June, average hourly earnings of private-sector production and nonsupervisory employees rose by 13 cents, or 0.5 percent, to $27.45. (See tables B-3 and B-8.)

    The average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls held at 34.5 hours in June. In manufacturing, the average workweek for all employees was little changed at 40.3 hours, and overtime fell by 0.1 hour to 3.2 hours. The average workweek for production and nonsupervisory employees on private nonfarm payrolls remained at 34.0 hours. (See tables B-2 and B-7.)

    The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for April was revised down by 68,000, from +436,000 to +368,000, and the change for May was revised down by 6,000, from +390,000 to +384,000. With these revisions, employment in April and May combined is 74,000 lower than previously reported. (Monthly revisions result from additional reports received from businesses and government agencies since the last published estimates and from the recalculation of seasonal factors.)

    _____________
    The Employment Situation for July is scheduled to be released on Friday, August 5, 2022, at 8:30 a.m. (ET).

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    BumRushDaShow

    (129,096 posts)
    5. Good morning
    Fri Jul 8, 2022, 09:05 AM
    Jul 2022

    and the prognosticators are honing in on being able to get closer to actuals... well... except for being off by 100,000!

    I did just find the revisions for previous months, which seemed to be somewhat small for last month -

    The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for April was revised down by 68,000, from +436,000
    to +368,000
    , and the change for May was revised down by 6,000, from +390,000 to +384,000. With
    these revisions, employment in April and May combined is 74,000 lower than previously reported.
    (Monthly revisions result from additional reports received from businesses and government agencies
    since the last published estimates and from the recalculation of seasonal factors.)

    mnhtnbb

    (31,392 posts)
    7. My oldest son's partner was laid off from his job yesterday
    Fri Jul 8, 2022, 09:29 AM
    Jul 2022

    working for a software company here in NC which provides services to real estate firms. My son reported that his partner already has several leads. IT is supposed to be hiring here in the Triangle area.

    progree

    (10,909 posts)
    8. And yet the Atlanta Federal Reserve is predicting Q2 GDP will decline 1.9%
    Fri Jul 8, 2022, 09:40 AM
    Jul 2022

    (annualized rate), which would make two back-to-back quarters of negative growth, the unofficial definition of a recession until the official arbiters -- the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) -- comes up with its official determination which can take a year.

    https://www.atlantafed.org/cqer/research/gdpnow

    The GDPNow model is running well-below consensus forecasts, which according to the chart, is about +3.0% with the latest on that being June 27. The latest GDPNow number is -1.9% in its July 7 update.

    The Commerce Department first estimate of Q2 GDP is July 28. The 2nd estimate is in late August and the final estimate is in late September.

    BumRushDaShow

    (129,096 posts)
    10. I like this article from a couple years ago from the Philly Fed
    Fri Jul 8, 2022, 02:14 PM
    Jul 2022
    Why Are Recessions So Hard to Predict? Random Shocks and Business Cycles


    by Thorsten Drautzburg

    Economic Advisor and Economist

    Q1 2019

    Economic Insights — Economists aren't soothsayers. They can't pinpoint the start of the next recession. But as Thorsten Drautzburg explains, their models can at least help us understand why a recession is happening, and what can be done about it.



    Economists can't tell you when the next downturn is coming [...]. Expansions don't die of old age: They're murdered by bubbles, central-bank mistakes or some unforeseen shock to the economy's supply (e.g., energy price spike, credit disruption) and/or demand slide (e.g., income/wealth losses).
    —Jared Bernstein, Washington Post, 7/5/2018


    Economists cannot predict the timing of the next recession because forecasting business cycles is hard. For example, at the onset of the 2001 recession, the median forecaster in the Survey of Professional Forecasters (SPF) expected real U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) growth of 2.5 percent over the next year, while in reality output barely grew. Again, on the eve of the Great Recession, forecasters were expecting GDP to grow 2.2 percent over the next four quarters, and we all know how that worked out.(1) Why is it so hard to predict downturns—even while they are happening?

    Most economists view business cycle fluctuations—contractions and expansions in economic output—as being driven by random forces—unforeseen shocks or mistakes, as Bernstein writes. As I will show, a model in which purely random events interact with economic forces can resemble U.S. business cycles. This randomness of economic ups and downs poses a challenge for macroeconomic forecasters because random events, by their very nature, are unpredictable.

    One might be tempted to conclude that if the origins of business cycles are random forces, then analyzing business cycles must be a pointless endeavor. However, not all random forces are alike. For our purposes, economists distinguish between two main types of random forces—demand shocks and supply shocks.(2) As the term implies, shocks are surprise events that, when put into a mathematical model of the economy, generate patterns in economic variables that resemble those of business cycles.

    (snip)

    https://www.philadelphiafed.org/the-economy/macroeconomics/why-are-recessions-so-hard-to-predict-random-shocks-and-business-cycles

    progree

    (10,909 posts)
    11. this stuck out --
    Fri Jul 8, 2022, 02:35 PM
    Jul 2022
    on the eve of the Great Recession, forecasters were expecting GDP to grow 2.2 percent over the next four quarters, and we all know how that worked out


    My problem with financial advisors is they are ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS saying things are great near the peak of a bull market, or at least they won't be too bad for very long (if there's been a bit of a downturn), so load up on what I'm selling.

    Similarly media pundits, except for a few permabears who are of course worthless when it comes to decisions about recessions and whether to underweight or overweight equities.

    BumRushDaShow

    (129,096 posts)
    12. As a longtime weather hobbyist
    Fri Jul 8, 2022, 03:08 PM
    Jul 2022

    where you have a similar situation of interpreting "models" (that are based on statistics), need I say more about how that often goes?

    In the case of weather, they will look at the model output and then will go back historically to try to find analog years where conditions were similar and then try to come up with some forecasts, and sometimes that helps a bit (but not always).

    So in this case with economic conditions, I'm not sure if there is an analog to what we are going through.

    Some 20 years ago, there were dire predictions of baby boomers suddenly leaving the marketplace about 10 years ago as the oldest turned 65 but that didn't happen. The pandemic certainly became a trigger for that type of forecast exodus but then it seems many are deciding to creep back into the marketplace - on their own terms.

    We have inflated prices and very low unemployment and as the President noted at his E.O. signing today - we have now "recovered all of the pre-pandemic jobs that were lost (in terms of numbers - not necessarily types), and then some". That isn't the same as having high unemployment and high inflation, or even high interest rates, where some pundits were trying to insist we were undergoing "stagflation" like was seen in the '70s, to define what was going on now, and that isn't panning out.

    There is a concern about all the "liquidity" the Fed pumped into the system but what also happened was that money was sent out to the populace during the pandemic and people actually used it to pay down or pay off their credit cards and in some cases, start saving (and the pundits whined about that because people "weren't buying" ).

    But now that people ARE buying again, the complaint is "why are people using their credit cards and not saving!!11!11!!!!

    So they really don't know what is going to happen and what they always say in forecasting weather - "the trend is your friend" (but you have to pick the correct features to look at).

    progree

    (10,909 posts)
    13. He said that?
    Fri Jul 8, 2022, 05:30 PM
    Jul 2022

    Last edited Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:38 PM - Edit history (1)

    as the President noted at his E.O. signing today - we have now "recovered all of the pre-pandemic jobs that were lost and then some".

    The usual barometer and the big headline number for number of jobs is the non-farm payroll which is headlined for being 372,000 more jobs in June than May
    https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001

    YEAR January February yada ...     *In thousands*
    2019 150100 150124 150348 150636 150713 150843 150921 151081 151244 151337 151589 151789
    2020 152128 152504 151006 130513 133155 137660 139048 140713 141632 142279 142612 142497
    2021 143017 143727 144431 144694 145141 145698 146387 146904 147328 148005 148652 149240
    2022 149744 150458 150856 151224 151608(P) 151980(P)
    (P)=Preliminary

    which in February 2020 was 152,504,000. The latest is 151,980,000, which is 524,000 less.

    But maybe he's calling January and February of 2020 pandemic era, and technically it was. (Today's number is higher than any before January 2020).

    The other is the Household Survey's "Employed" which hardly anybody mentions because of its month-to-month volatility, but does cover 4% more workers --

    https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12000000
    YEAR January February yada ...     *In thousands*
    2019 156614 156992 156869 156744 156868 157123 157488 157780 158249 158356 158504 158772
    2020 158653 158866 155599 133320 137182 142218 143727 147176 147569 149719 149761 149883
    2021 150004 150367 150940 151259 151550 151612 152704 153167 153806 154234 155324 155975
    2022 157174 157722 158458 158105 158426 158111
    January of every year is "Data affected by changes in population controls."

    Which was higher in several months of 2019 and January and February of 2020 than the latest

    Also interesting that it dropped by 315,000 from May to June, but well, it is a volatile data series, so we emphasize this series as THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE AND INCLUSIVE only when it helps our narrative. Otherwise it's just another of the tens of thousands of statistics the BLS compiles.

    The labor force fell by 353,000 from May to June and has only risen by 336,000 total in the last 5 months (67,200/month) (Another volatile Household Survey number). https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11000000

    Edited to add

    The labor force is 610,000 below its pre-pandemic peak of 164,633,000 in December 2019. Explaining why pundits say the labor market is tighter now than it did back then.
    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11000000
    YEAR January February yada ...     *In thousands*
    2019 163072 163114 163035 162642 162803 163029 163472 163774 164015 164336 164434 164633
    2020 164479 164583 162764 156358 158122 159834 160015 160707 160153 160834 160539 160671
    2021 160184 160359 160631 160978 160801 161114 161375 161505 161471 161610 162126 162294
    2022 163687 163991 164409 164046 164376 164023
    January of every year is "Data affected by changes in population controls."

    BumRushDaShow

    (129,096 posts)
    16. "But maybe he's calling January and February of 2020 pandemic era,"
    Sat Jul 9, 2022, 05:44 AM
    Jul 2022

    I expect so since despite W.H.O.'s waffling, the U.S. was actually preparing for what would be an incoming pandemic (but then chose to ignore the pre-existing plan, which put Fauci into a bind).

    Still - W.H.O.'s timeline begins the last day of December 2019 and goes forward from there - https://www.who.int/news/item/29-06-2020-covidtimeline

    CDC has its timeline that covers the same "start in December 2019" period (and includes the first confirmed case in the U.S. on 1/20/20) - https://www.cdc.gov/museum/timeline/covid19.html

    progree

    (10,909 posts)
    17. Or he said we recovered all of the PRIVATE sector jobs lost, which is true without any stretching
    Sat Jul 9, 2022, 07:15 AM
    Jul 2022

    and most importantly, beating any Slobfather era number.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=biden%3A+%22recovered+all+of+the+pre-pandemic+jobs+that+were+lost+and+then+some%22&sxsrf=ALiCzsYa1ECFAQLRJa54PiEuL_O7GTYYyw%3A1657364429147&source=hp&ei=zV_JYonRBO2kptQPjcak-As&iflsig=AJiK0e8AAAAAYslt3R79Rcgh3KPF2er1Gfr9JjWkiYzt&ved=0ahUKEwjJ67vQ0-v4AhVtkokEHQ0jCb8Q4dUDCAk&uact=5&oq=biden%3A+%22recovered+all+of+the+pre-pandemic+jobs+that+were+lost+and+then+some%22&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EANQAFgAYPgXaABwAHgAgAGAAYgBgAGSAQMwLjGYAQCgAQKgAQE&sclient=gws-wiz

    Private Sector Jobs, IN THOUSANDS
    https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001
    YEAR January February March Yada     *IN THOUSANDS*
    2019 127581 127595 127787 128037 128117 128246 128364 128482 128589 128657 128875 129058
    2020 129344 129625 128181 108609 111734 116244 117537 118750 119709 120508 120914 120806
    2021 121229 121922 122572 122784 123165 123673 124311 124808 125217 125911 126538 127099
    2022 127591 128295 128680 129048 129384(P) 129765(P)
    (P)=Preliminary
    Clearly beating the Slobfather high of February 2020 of 129,625,000

    Odd that government jobs are still below SlobFather highs ... you'd have thought that "Biden and the Squad" would have done away with the private sector by now, according to conventional political stereotypes

    ==============

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/07/08/statement-by-president-biden-on-the-june-jobs-report/

    Today, we learned that our private sector has recovered all of the jobs lost during the pandemic, and added jobs on top of that. This has been the fastest and strongest jobs recovery in American history, and it would not have been possible without the decisive action my Administration took last year to fix a broken COVID response, and pass the American Rescue Plan to get our economy back on track.

    In the second quarter of this year, we created more jobs than in any quarter under any of my predecessors in the nearly 40 years before the pandemic. We have more Americans working in the private sector today than any day during Donald Trump’s Presidency – more people than any time in our history.

    BumRushDaShow

    (129,096 posts)
    19. LOL
    Sat Jul 9, 2022, 08:09 AM
    Jul 2022

    I do know that initially, many state and local governments were forced to lay off employees (and also lost many of them to COVID) but then they were all given gobs of money to deal with that and many are still trying to set up their plans to use the funding and get their staffing back up.

    It's been hard because you still had (and continue to have) that segment of the public sector who were refusing to get vaccinated when the mandates were put in place but that issue has slowly been unwinding. Plus you may have a reshuffling of opportunities for sectors like those who are "gig workers", who might want to consider public sector jobs.

    progree

    (10,909 posts)
    14. Yahoo Finance: Jobs data 'make a mockery' of recession fears: Economists react to Jobs report
    Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:32 PM
    Jul 2022

    Some people have commented in the past several months on various threads that Yahoo Finance is a RW source, and people who post from this source are "Yahoos" ha ha ha. Well this story doesn't sound like one designed to make the Biden economy look bad.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/economists-react-to-junes-blowout-report-180922367.html
    Jobs data 'make a mockery' of recession fears: Economists react to June's employment report, Alexandra Semenova, Yahoo Finance, 7/8/22

    ... June’s blowout payroll gain

    ... “The strong 372,000 gain in non-farm payrolls in June appears to make a mockery of claims the economy is heading into, let alone already in, a recession. That may be enough to solidify the case for another 75bp rate hike at the Fed’s meeting later this month, although signs that wage growth is cooling and the recent plunge in commodity prices both suggest the inflation outlook could improve more quickly than officials had feared.”

    ...“Overall, the jobs data support our view that talk of the economy being in recession right now is fanciful,


    And on and on similarly with analyst after analyst opinion. But it does end with this:

    LPL Financial Chief Economist Jeffrey Roach:
    "In contrast to what some pundits are suggesting, the economy is not currently in recession and we should expect the labor market to expand but at a slower pace as firms still struggle with finding suitable workers. Firms will still likely be increasing wages as they deal with a shortage of qualified workers and elevated quit rates. The high number of people not returning to the work force is one of the nagging problems with the labor market right now. Relative to pre-pandemic levels, the economy has 4.8 million more people out of the labor force. Some likely took early retirements but that does not explain the rest of the story. The labor market will remain tight with low unemployment as roughly 5 million people have not yet rejoined the workforce."


    The BLS numbers of Labor Force Level are different. The labor force is 610,000 below its pre-pandemic peak of 164,633,000 in December 2019.

    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11000000
    YEAR January February yada ...     *In thousands*
    2019 163072 163114 163035 162642 162803 163029 163472 163774 164015 164336 164434 164633
    2020 164479 164583 162764 156358 158122 159834 160015 160707 160153 160834 160539 160671
    2021 160184 160359 160631 160978 160801 161114 161375 161505 161471 161610 162126 162294
    2022 163687 163991 164409 164046 164376 164023
    January of every year is "Data affected by changes in population controls."

    progree

    (10,909 posts)
    15. Oh, here's what Roach is talking about: "Not In Labor Force" increased by 4.8 million since Jan 2020
    Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:46 PM
    Jul 2022

    NILF -- Not in Labor Force
    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS15000000
    YEAR January February yada ... *In thousands*
    2019 95168 95278 95502 96051 96058 96008 95753 95658 95623 95509 95586 95549
    2020 95023 95045 96994 103538 101925 100370 100358 99851 100590 100091 100546 100559
    2021 100667 100560 100372 100125 100409 100224 100094 100106 100294 100298 99902 99842
    2022 99516 99333 99035 99513 99302 99812

    So the lowest NILF was 95,023,000 in January 2020
    The current (June) NILF is 99,812,000
    For an increase of 4,789,000 NILFies

    Edited to add
    The civilian non-institutional population age 16+ increased by 4,333,000 since January 2020
    https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU00000000
    Note this one is NOT seasonally adjusted. They seem to have gotten rid of the seasonally adjusted version of this data series.
    All the other series I posted in this thread, except where explicitly noted otherwise, are seasonally adjusted.

    progree

    (10,909 posts)
    20. Prime age Labor Force Participation Rate down 0.8 percentage points from pre-pandemic peak
    Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:12 PM
    Jul 2022

    Last edited Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:55 PM - Edit history (1)

    Prime age (25-54) Labor Force Participation Rate
    https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300060
    YEAR January February yada ... In Percent
    2019 82.5 82.5 82.5 82.3 82.2 82.2 82.1 82.6 82.7 82.8 82.8 82.9
    2020 83.1 83.0 82.5 79.9 80.6 81.5 81.2 81.4 81.0 81.2 80.9 81.0
    2021 81.1 81.2 81.3 81.4 81.4 81.7 81.9 81.8 81.6 81.7 81.9 81.9
    2022 82.0 82.2 82.5 82.4 82.6 82.3

    Especially from men, which has been wavering of late. and 0.9 percentage points below their Jan 2020 levels (they had a couple even higher months in 2019)
    https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300061
    2019 89.3 89.4 89.6 89.2 88.9 88.8 88.9 89.0 89.2 89.1 89.2 89.1
    2020 89.3 89.2 89.0 86.4 87.2 87.8 87.5 87.9 87.7 87.8 87.3 87.4
    2021 87.6 87.6 87.6 87.9 87.9 88.1 88.3 88.3 88.2 88.1 88.2 88.0
    2022 88.2 88.8 88.7 88.7 88.7 88.4

    Women are more on a straight recovery trajectory, though still 0.5 percentage points from the pre-pandemic peak
    https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300061
    2019 75.8 75.8 75.5 75.5 75.7 75.9 75.4 76.3 76.4 76.7 76.6 76.8
    2020 76.9 76.9 76.1 73.5 74.3 75.3 75.1 74.9 74.4 74.8 74.6 74.7
    2021 74.7 74.9 75.2 75.1 75.0 75.4 75.6 75.4 75.3 75.4 75.7 75.9
    2022 76.0 75.8 76.5 76.2 76.6 76.4

    (Easier to see these things on the graph -- all the links includes graphs)

    ON EDIT - Repeating the first one, but subtracting 80 from all the numbers to see the variation better -

    Prime age (25-54) Labor Force Participation Rate
    https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300060
    YEAR January February yada ... In Percent with 80% subtracted from all numbers
    2019 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.3 2.2 2.2 2.1 2.6 2.7 2.8 2.8 2.9
    2020 3.1 3.0 2.5 -.1 0.6 1.5 1.2 1.4 1.0 1.2 0.9 1.0
    2021 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.4 1.7 1.9 1.8 1.6 1.7 1.9 1.9
    2022 2.0 2.2 2.5 2.4 2.6 2.3

    BumRushDaShow

    (129,096 posts)
    18. What is also interesting that is going on
    Sat Jul 9, 2022, 08:00 AM
    Jul 2022

    and it goes back to that quote I posted above from the Philly Fed about "shocks" - there is one "shock" that happened during the early part of the pandemic and that is the supply chain issue. What ended up happening was an extreme backup of cargo ships at ports - notably in California, where pictures were routinely shown of hundreds of ships waiting to dock and tens of thousands of containers waiting to be trucked away.



    And the assumption it seems, was that this was still going on and that those same ships were STILL sitting out there 2 years later (above pic was from October 2021), rather than the reality of the result of an E.O. requiring 24/7 operations at the biggest hung-up port in Los Angeles, where stuff DID finally start moving, and went on its way to wholesalers, distributors, and retailers, en masse.

    What would be a different "shock" would be actual "NEW" supply source disruptions from China due to their continued on and off COVID lockdown protocols, but the stuff that was shipped before and during the early and mid-parts of the pandemic, had finally reached the warehouses months ago.

    And you have this as a result -

    Walmart, Gap and Others Amass $45 Billion in Extra Stuff to Sell


    By Brendan Case and Allison Nicole Smith
    May 28, 2022, 1:00 PM EDT


    Big retailers rushed to build up inventories last year amid soaring consumer demand and transportation bottlenecks -- going so far in some cases as to rent their own cargo ships. Now, they’re trying to figure out how to sell all their stuff.

    Inventories rose $44.8 billion for companies on S&P consumer indexes with a market value of at least $1 billion that reported earnings over the last two weeks, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. That’s up 26% from this time last year. The glut dented profits at some retailers, with Walmart Inc. paying more for storage and Target Corp. and Gap Inc. cutting prices on key goods.

    It’s far from clear what comes next. In the past, ballooning retail inventories have signaled economic slowdowns or recessions as shoppers bought less. But consumer spending in April climbed at the quickest pace in three months after adjusting for inflation, the Commerce Department said Friday. As long as Americans keep shopping, well-stocked warehouses could buoy retailers if port congestion worsens this summer.

    “The just-in-time mentality is broken now,” said Jen Bartashus, a retail analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence. “So you’re seeing retailers carry more inventory than they traditionally carried.” Economists expected money allocated toward services would outpace merchandise as pandemic concerns subsided, but both categories have continued to move upward. Inflation-adjusted spending on services increased 0.5% in April from the prior month while goods rose 1%.

    (snip)

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-28/walmart-gap-and-others-amass-45-billion-in-extra-stuff-to-sell#xj4y7vzkg


    In fact, it seems those ports apparently caught up quite a bit several months ago and are only now seeing an uptick - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2022-06-07/supply-chain-latest-los-angeles-ports-see-container-volumes-rise

    “Inventory levels are unseasonably high, packing warehouses to the gills and driving costs up for both inventory and warehousing,” according to the US Logistics Managers’ Index released Tuesday. (There’s more here on the latest LMI.)


    And it is now to the point where I heard a business report on the radio last evening that noted the embarrassment of big box retailers like Target, admitting they were sitting on what they called upwards of a "30%" overage of goods, which is going to force them to slash prices in order to "right-size" or "re-balance" their inventories. And THAT was actually a story that came out a month ago that didn't seem to rise above the drumbeat of "inflation inflation recession recession".

    Now they are paying for storage.

    The latest talking points to uphold "The Narrative®" is this - "Well hiring is going to slow!!!!111!! REALLY!!!!11!!1!!!"

    I suppose it will as the economy eventually starts to settle into something of a steady-state after what was a triple-shock (pandemic + recession + war abroad), which are outside of the annual smaller "shocks" that impact commodities, like droughts/heat/floods impacting crops and large livestock, and animal diseases (like bird flu) affecting poultry.

    But as I mentioned earlier, there is no good "analog" situation to work off of to help predict the outcomes.

    I saw this article defining some of the things that contribute to "inflation" (just did the bullet points from it) -

    What to know about the 6 main causes of inflation


    Kevin L. Matthews II Updated Mar 16, 2022, 3:03 PM

    (snip)

    Here are the major causes of inflation:

    1. Demand-pull inflation

    (snip)

    2. Cost-push inflation

    (snip)

    3. Increased money supply

    (snip)

    4. Devaluation

    (snip)

    5. Rising wages

    (snip)

    6. Policies and regulations

    (snip)

    https://www.businessinsider.com/personal-finance/causes-of-inflation


    #1 seems to fluctuate but I think once people got what they needed for essentials, they shifted to looking at discretionary purchases.

    #2 seems to be associated with various things like weather conditions and labor shortages in certain industries but then also points to wage increases to adjust for that and a refusal to allow profits to take an initial hit because the business media will excoriate them.

    #3 was done to deal with the recession at the beginning of the pandemic and this is where we see the Fed interest rate hikes being used to reign it in

    #4 is NOT happening despite #3, to the point where so far, the dollar has been amazingly resilient

    #5 wage hikes continue to be multi-decade bullshit argument when the wage growth time and time and time again has been shown to have been stagnant for nearly half a century

    #6 are policies where many of those put in place the past year were done to buffer from the shocks

    (sorry this is long as I try to sip the coffee - I blame you guys for this! )

    progree

    (10,909 posts)
    21. The worker shortage: Looks like older workers retiring or not finding jobs
    Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:00 PM
    Jul 2022

    Employment to Population Ratio, NOT Seasonally Adjusted (but I'm comparing June 2019 to June 2022 so S.A. shouldn't be a big factor)

    In Percent
    June 2019 -> June 2022
    Age 25-54: 79.5 -> 79.6 so-called "Prime Age" https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU02300060
    Age 55-64: 63.2 -> 63.0 https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU02300095
    '' Age 55+: 38.7 -> 37.3 https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU02324230
    '' Age 65+: 19.0 -> 18.3 https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNU02300097

    I used Not Seasonally Adjusted because there isn't a Seasonally Adjusted data series for age 65+ or age 55-64.

    Since I don't have Seasonally Adjusted for all the series, I have to use NSA throughout for consistency, and I'm having to compare the same month in different years to have the best shot at meaningful comparisons.

    Boomers, born between 1946 and 1964, are ages 58 to 76.

    Some data series: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142940239#post2

    Data series finder: https://www.bls.gov/data/#employment

    Note: the self-employed are counted in these statistics the same as the employed-by-others. These numbers come from the Household Survey where they call up households and ask many questions, including are you working for pay or profit? (the latter for the self-employed). The Household Survey is NOT a payroll survey.

    I put this together in response to
    Maraya1969
    I have a question about the shortage of workers since Covid
    https://www.democraticunderground.com/10021691050

    I could also look at Labor Force Participation Rate (LFPR) which is the same as Emptoyment To Population Ratio (above), PLUS the officially unemployed (as a percentage of the civilian non-institutional population), where the officially unemployed are those who are jobless and who have looked for work sometime in the last 4 weeks, and are able to take a job and whatever else. All the same links are available for LFPR as for Employment to Population Ratio in https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142940239#post2 above.

    mahatmakanejeeves

    (57,489 posts)
    22. Jobs data 'make a mockery' of recession fears: Economists react to June's employment report
    Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:55 AM
    Jul 2022
    Yahoo Finance

    Jobs data 'make a mockery' of recession fears: Economists react to June's employment report

    Alexandra Semenova · Reporter
    Fri, July 8, 2022, 2:09 PM · 5 min read

    The latest jobs report showed that the U.S. labor market continued its streak of strong hiring in June, undermining recent warnings among some strategists of an economic downturn.

    The Labor Department reported Friday that non-farm payrolls rose by 372,000 last month, far exceeding the 268,000 jobs Bloomberg economists had forecasted. Unemployment stayed at 3.6%, in line with economist estimates and slightly above February 2020's level of 3.5% before the pandemic tipped the economy into recession.

    June’s blowout payroll gain comes amid growing concerns of a potential recession hitting the labor market as the Federal Reserve raises interest rates to tame surging inflation and as some companies announce hiring freezes and layoffs. But economic data has so far failed to suggest a broader slowdown in employment.

    A flurry of Wall Street reactions followed Friday’s data. Yahoo Finance rounded up some of what we got in our inbox and what experts said on our Live show below:

    {snip}
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