Half of G.O.P. Voters Ready to Leave Trump Behind, Poll Finds
Source: NY Times
By Michael C. Bender
As Donald J. Trump weighs whether to open an unusually early White House campaign, a New York Times/Siena College poll shows that his post-presidential quest to consolidate his support within the Republican Party has instead left him weakened, with nearly half the partys primary voters seeking someone different for president in 2024 and a significant number vowing to abandon him if he wins the nomination.
By focusing on political payback inside his party instead of tending to wounds opened by his alarming attempts to cling to power after his 2020 defeat, Mr. Trump appears to have only deepened fault lines among Republicans during his yearlong revenge tour. A clear majority of primary voters under 35 years old, 64 percent, as well as 65 percent of those with at least a college degree a leading indicator of political preferences inside the donor class told pollsters they would vote against Mr. Trump in a presidential primary.
Mr. Trumps conduct on Jan. 6, 2021, appears to have contributed to the decline in his standing, including among a small but important segment of Republicans who could form the base of his opposition in a potential primary contest. While 75 percent of primary voters said Mr. Trump was just exercising his right to contest the election, nearly one in five said he went so far that he threatened American democracy.
Overall, Mr. Trump maintains his primacy in the party: In a hypothetical matchup against five other potential Republican presidential rivals, 49 percent of primary voters said they would support him for a third nomination.
Former President Donald J. Trump at a rally in Anchorage last weekend.Credit...Ash Adams for The New York Times
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/12/us/politics/trump-approval-polling-2024.html
Walleye
(31,028 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,918 posts)Anyone stupid enough to back Trump is just waiting for the next moron to rise up from the last director-wannabes ashes.
I have no more fucks to give. People with no character nor principles are dangerous with any amount of power. Catering to their whims is not politics its hero worship.
Novara
(5,844 posts)That would seal his political coffin.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)He's just waiting on the sideline, throwing Florida into the fascist states of America column, and waiting for Trump to self-destruct.
He's the GQP's new fair-haired fascist, and he'll be their nominee. Count on it.
Lovie777
(12,281 posts)especially the corporate polling's except when it comes to the recent President of the USA.
Same with major news papers.
Will corporate media finally announce that the GQP are in disarray.
joshdawg
(2,650 posts)desantis, abbott????? Both of them are worse than tfg, in my opinion. All are a waste of skin and oxygen.
ancianita
(36,100 posts)the deck of the GOP submarine.
If this poll is true, they'll be getting groomed for a smarter version of Trump, which is such a low bar that Biden can eat their breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Novara
(5,844 posts)He's an addiction to them. They'd be in serious withdrawal, as would be the chaos junkies.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)The media spends most of its time on Trump, the rest trying to convince us how low Bidens polls are. Yet Biden still wins, especially women and jhe young.
I wish someone, anyone would explain why These over 65 love Trump. He is against every program they depend on!
Diamond_Dog
(32,011 posts)All I can come up with is that he hates the same people they hate (immigrants, people of color, the poor, single moms, feminists, gays, liberals)
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)propaganda repackaged over and over.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Every story begins with, Amid falling ratings, no matter what he accomplishes.
Morning Joe actually contradicted them this morning. Biden is winning women, the young and pretty much every segment. He still beats Trump.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)the right wing indoctrination process began 35 years ago which is how it became so ingrained as to allow totally worthless crazy idiots to win elections and take over state politics. It explains some of the difficulty trying to bring them back to reality.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,130 posts)Madison Avenue has trained the American Public for more than a century to grow bored and tired with a product after a spell and to desire something to replace it. And Trump can't re-invent himself.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)... TFG is their fad. And fads come and go. How many still have their pet rocks.
no_hypocrisy
(46,130 posts)IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)... eom.
DFW
(54,411 posts)It would mean that half of Republican voters still DO support him. In other words, fully 50% of the voters for the opposition party are fully bonkers.
mucifer
(23,554 posts)they will all find another hateful candidate
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)Unless he only has one serious rival, no other single candidate has a chance of beating 49% support in the primaries. Though the primaries are by state, so it's possible that he could win big in states that have fewer delegates, and lose big in states that have more.
3Hotdogs
(12,393 posts)Another question... will there be another G.O.P. candidate with an ounce of sanity to enter the prima... Aw. silly me.
Jose Garcia
(2,598 posts)He clinched the nomination in 2016 with a much smaller percentage as the opposition to him was split.
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BumRushDaShow
(129,129 posts)to shit all over Biden and saved their GOP look for today.
Yet they left out a handy dandy graph of GOP respondents about their reasons for not supporting 45 and instead focused on "other candidates" that they might prefer.
Here is a no paywall link.
Herx
(46 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 12, 2022, 08:45 AM - Edit history (1)
Talking about record low unemployment is no fun to them.
BumRushDaShow
(129,129 posts)Plus as announced today - the dollar reached parity with the euro, so for a change, our currency is actually considered "strong" (at least for the moment).
gab13by13
(21,362 posts)the banners are still up and the flags flying.
Only saw 1 Oz sign though, lots of Mastriano signs.
czarjak
(11,278 posts)Was amazed to see the idiot at Gettysburg wearing a t-shirt emblazoned with the Confederate flag. It read "If this flag offends you, I've got a history lesson for you."
dchill
(38,505 posts)Flag of the losing side is a war against the US. It's not that hard.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,011 posts)SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,011 posts)True Blue American
(17,986 posts)And his niece, Mary is not far behind. Begging emails from her every day!
Martin68
(22,822 posts)Scott and Youngkin.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)How disappointing. Typical, but disappointing.
KS Toronado
(17,267 posts)Rs don't want him as President, plus he keeps them from getting organized as a party.
Polybius
(15,437 posts)Who would be easier to beat, Trump or DeSantis?
KS Toronado
(17,267 posts)His light is beginning to wane with Rs, while DeSantis is starting to grow brighter. Ronnie is smart
enough not to say stupid shit, donnie not so much. But I question if the RNC will give donnie
a second chance to screw everything up, we'd be siding with Putler against Ukraine.
Polybius
(15,437 posts)Trump has one talent and one talent only. He fires up a crowd in a remarkable way, and has loyal followers. DeSantis is way smarter, but not nearly as good as Trump is on this.
Ligyron
(7,636 posts)Divide and conquer.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)Leave Trump Behind?
Obviously RINOs and traitors to Donald.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Meanwhile the national media shys away from the obvious two words not verboten
Fascism
Big Lie
Come on, dont be shy! Everyone in America sees it, even blind Republicans,
America is not to special it cant be like every other country
democracy is vulnerable to evil, America no exception!
bucolic_frolic
(43,196 posts)machoneman
(4,007 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,196 posts)nycbos
(6,034 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)There are many polls.
Pick the one you like and swear by it.
Swear at the others.
.................... That's why candidates sometimes refer to mystery polls that no one can locate to check.
kimbutgar
(21,164 posts)Sky Jewels
(7,113 posts)Donald Trump's numbers have never been higher. He has the most support ever recorded for a president and for an individual lifeform in the 14+-billion-year history of the universe. People come up to him with tears in their eyes and say, "Sir, thank you for being so incredibly popular. Your support is just tremendous. It's as wide and high as the impenetrable wall you built across the entire Mexican border. We've never seen anything like it." And then they keel over just from being in the presence of such greatness.
cactusfractal
(496 posts)brooklynite
(94,603 posts)
but a story that a significant number of Democrats dont want Biden to run is right wing propaganda?
mahina
(17,669 posts)onetexan
(13,043 posts)voted for him, will deny they were ever associated with him, or supported him - the same way they did with Nixon.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)Torchlight
(3,342 posts)The other half are repentant idiots.