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Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,231 posts)
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 07:45 PM Jul 2022

Parkland survivor David Hogg was kicked out of a House gun control meeting after tearing into Rep. A

Source: Insider

(Complete Headline: Parkland survivor David Hogg was kicked out of a House gun control meeting after tearing into Rep. Andy Biggs for using the same logic of 'mass shooters in your manifesto')

Parkland survivor David Hogg was thrown out of a House gun control meeting on Wednesday after he accused GOP Rep. Andy Biggs of parroting the same rhetoric employed by gunmen in mass shootings.

The House Judiciary Committee gathered on Wednesday to discuss gun control policies, including the 2021 Assault Weapons Ban and the Equal Access for Victims of Gun Violence Act.

During the meeting, Biggs, a Republican from Arizona, claimed Americans, specifically residents of his state, need assault weapons to protect themselves against an "invasion" of undocumented migrants, whom the conservative lawmaker said posed "a danger or threat."

/snip

Biggs' remarks prompted Hogg to rise from his seat in the gallery and yell: "You're reiterating the points of mass shooters in your manifesto!"

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/david-hogg-accused-andy-biggs-reiterating-points-of-mass-shooter-2022-7



It seems to be getting more difficult to speak truth to power.
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Parkland survivor David Hogg was kicked out of a House gun control meeting after tearing into Rep. A (Original Post) Tom Yossarian Joad Jul 2022 OP
God, the blood lust. They think it's OK just to shoot people down cause they don't like them Walleye Jul 2022 #1
Maybe David Hogg will now realize this isn't about "both parties do it". One party has overwhelming JohnSJ Jul 2022 #2
Young David doesn't seem to be too bright. I don't think he has comradebillyboy Jul 2022 #5
He seems to be bright enough to be getting his message out better than most. Tom Yossarian Joad Jul 2022 #7
Yes, what you said x 1B. Magoo48 Jul 2022 #10
He's brighter than every republican candidate housecat Jul 2022 #17
show me azureblue Jul 2022 #23
I'll show you. Watch this video. BaronChocula Jul 2022 #30
He's an exceptionally bright young man. intheflow Jul 2022 #36
Please expand the conversation? Going to Canada Jul 2022 #43
I keep thinking he will turn a corner... DURHAM D Jul 2022 #6
Curious. What corner would you have him turn? Tom Yossarian Joad Jul 2022 #29
I think it's pretty damn sad to question his intellect. 2Gingersnaps Jul 2022 #37
David Hogg..go for it....Biggs been watching resident evil...???...Effing asshole Biggs is..always asiliveandbreathe Jul 2022 #3
Run for office here in Florida, Mr Hogg Deuxcents Jul 2022 #4
Just guessing..... MyOwnPeace Jul 2022 #9
I was wondering so.. Deuxcents Jul 2022 #11
so lets rent him a shack in a red district and run him Captain Zero Jul 2022 #34
You don't have to be very old to run locally & it's a good way to get your name out there w voters... Hekate Jul 2022 #14
Dennis Kucinich was an embarrassment housecat Jul 2022 #19
Yes, like being outspoken on the environment. I wish they were all that embarrassing. mjvpi Jul 2022 #21
And? Never heard of him myself until he ran for potus, didn't care for him, & only remember him as... Hekate Jul 2022 #26
I was an activist for years in Ohio. Met him. 2Gingersnaps Jul 2022 #38
Let him finish his education first. He's a brilliant young man onetexan Jul 2022 #31
Using assault weapons to kill undocumented immigrants? area51 Jul 2022 #8
Pigs, human beings, it's all slaughter to the death cult. Hekate Jul 2022 #15
The white nationalist at Indiana mall targeted Hispanic people blm Jul 2022 #12
Right On, David Hogg marieo1 Jul 2022 #13
Biggs is one of those Freedumb Caucus members 2Gingersnaps Jul 2022 #39
Cheezas! I wish DU would lay off this young man tulipsandroses Jul 2022 #16
What you said Hekate Jul 2022 #27
X1000 2Gingersnaps Jul 2022 #40
Assault weapons were designed for hunting humans dlk Jul 2022 #18
David Hogg FelineOverlord Jul 2022 #20
Do Not We The People Have The Right COL Mustard Jul 2022 #22
good for him. better than hiding behind a computer keyboard nt msongs Jul 2022 #24
As he was tossed out . . . AverageOldGuy Jul 2022 #25
being kicked out of a house meeting for calling out ethnic cleansing is an honor DBoon Jul 2022 #28
Kudos to David Hogg for his activism. raccoon Jul 2022 #32
Good Trouble. When you've got them on the ropes, go for the jugular. Brave young man! bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #33
Good for David blogslug Jul 2022 #35
Was this televised? Polybius Jul 2022 #41
See post 35 Tom Yossarian Joad Jul 2022 #44
He's just so young and so passionate. He will figure leftyladyfrommo Jul 2022 #42

JohnSJ

(92,395 posts)
2. Maybe David Hogg will now realize this isn't about "both parties do it". One party has overwhelming
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 07:50 PM
Jul 2022

been against any restrictions on guns, and it isn’t the Democrats


comradebillyboy

(10,175 posts)
5. Young David doesn't seem to be too bright. I don't think he has
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 07:55 PM
Jul 2022

figured out who the actual roadblocks are.

Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,231 posts)
7. He seems to be bright enough to be getting his message out better than most.
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 08:07 PM
Jul 2022

I wish I had half his "brightness" and chutzpah back in the days I protested Nixon and the Viet Nam war.

azureblue

(2,150 posts)
23. show me
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 09:54 PM
Jul 2022

where he says "both parties do it". He never did - he attacks the people who pass laws that enable guns to get into the hands of crazies. And those people are ALWAYS Republicans. Then you come on with the personal attacks for a person who survived a horrible massacre, and devoted his life, in honor of his fallen classmates, to trying to prevent it from happening again. He has more honor than you every will. . Dare I use the T word?

BaronChocula

(1,586 posts)
30. I'll show you. Watch this video.
Thu Jul 21, 2022, 01:07 AM
Jul 2022
https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/david-hogg-demands-congress-gets-one-thing-done-on-gun-safety-140762181967

At about 1:41 he says Republicans and Democrats have failed.

It's just a fact. He said it. And it's not true. I personally don't see Republican roadblocks as Democratic "failure."

intheflow

(28,501 posts)
36. He's an exceptionally bright young man.
Thu Jul 21, 2022, 10:26 AM
Jul 2022

If he's been critical of Democrats' failure on gun control, it's 100% justified since he's a survivor of a mass shooting. Also, he was yelling at Andy Biggs - one of the actual roadblocks.

Going to Canada

(169 posts)
43. Please expand the conversation?
Thu Jul 21, 2022, 04:02 PM
Jul 2022

David is speaking up for every death that has been taken unnecessarily by guns in America. He is asking for regulations so that families will not be forever scarred because the Republicans can't agree on basic regulations, that will make everyone safer in this country. He does not want to take guns. We have to get the semi automatic weapons off the streets.

Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,231 posts)
29. Curious. What corner would you have him turn?
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 11:50 PM
Jul 2022

Have you or do you know of anyone else who have had such an effect on putting gun control in the public eye such as this young man?

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
37. I think it's pretty damn sad to question his intellect.
Thu Jul 21, 2022, 11:48 AM
Jul 2022

The people on the front lines of standing up and making "good trouble" in the gun debate seem to be those who dodged a bullet, those who weren't so lucky, or the families of the sacrificial lambs to America's blood lust. Let's be real, a good percentage of Americans cannot wait to find an excuse to turn a gun on their neighbors, they just don't want to face consequences.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
3. David Hogg..go for it....Biggs been watching resident evil...???...Effing asshole Biggs is..always
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 07:51 PM
Jul 2022

Has been...my last email to Biggs "you in some kinda doodoo...buckle up cupcake.."

Deuxcents

(16,330 posts)
4. Run for office here in Florida, Mr Hogg
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 07:53 PM
Jul 2022

We need all the Dems we can get. Just got my mail in ballot today..would love to see him on it.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
9. Just guessing.....
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 08:20 PM
Jul 2022

Probably not old enough to 'run for something' - but old enough to get a military assault weapon...

Deuxcents

(16,330 posts)
11. I was wondering so..
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 08:36 PM
Jul 2022

From google..The Constitution requires a Representative to be at least 21 years of age, a resident of the district from which elected, and a resident of Florida for two years prior to election. . He’s 22 as of April, 2022. He’s young but he qualifies but I think he comes from a blue district on the east coast.

Captain Zero

(6,823 posts)
34. so lets rent him a shack in a red district and run him
Thu Jul 21, 2022, 09:16 AM
Jul 2022
residency problem solved.
Dan Coates was a Senator from Indiana while he was living in North Carolina.

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
14. You don't have to be very old to run locally & it's a good way to get your name out there w voters...
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 09:09 PM
Jul 2022

Dennis Kucinich was the youngest mayor ever, I believe, and he ended up in the House.

I knew a young man once who claimed to want to go into politics, but when I mentioned several local options and how to use them as a stepping stone to our state capitol in fairly short order, he was flat-out uninterested — he didn’t want to start close to the bottom and work his way up. He was also not nearly as bright as he thought he was.

Young Mr Hogg is on a mission, and is an admirable young fellow. He is driven by the tragedy he endured. I hope there is someone who can help him harness that fire for the long haul.

mjvpi

(1,389 posts)
21. Yes, like being outspoken on the environment. I wish they were all that embarrassing.
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 09:34 PM
Jul 2022

I respectfully disagree

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
26. And? Never heard of him myself until he ran for potus, didn't care for him, & only remember him as...
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 10:17 PM
Jul 2022

… an example of someone who started young.

That said, one of the vets I was working with back then thought he was swell, so I tried to figure out why.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
38. I was an activist for years in Ohio. Met him.
Thu Jul 21, 2022, 11:53 AM
Jul 2022

His ego was as big as the convention center we were in. He talked a great game. He reminded me of a Lib Newt Gingrich, only that scumbag did so much worse than just talk.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
13. Right On, David Hogg
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 08:40 PM
Jul 2022

I hope David Hogg keeps at this............he is so good. And........he has good reason to be, he has seen violence first hand. That stupid republican is an idiot. I wish we could get rid of
a few more of the R's!!

tulipsandroses

(5,127 posts)
16. Cheezas! I wish DU would lay off this young man
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 09:23 PM
Jul 2022

Allow him to grow into his own. As we all did. Warts and all. Just because he’s had to transition from high school kid to young adult under the media’s spotlight, doesn’t mean he shouldn’t get the same grace. All the while dealing with horrific trauma. How many of us would hold up under that kind of pressure at his age? Give him the time and grace to figure it out.
OK, stepping down from my soap box.

Biggs is a low life. People that haven’t shown you their papers should be executed huh? If only we could go back in time to let Native Americans know to check their papers.

dlk

(11,576 posts)
18. Assault weapons were designed for hunting humans
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 09:28 PM
Jul 2022

And creating the most amount of carnage in the least amount of time. They have no place in our society and need too be banned.

DBoon

(22,397 posts)
28. being kicked out of a house meeting for calling out ethnic cleansing is an honor
Wed Jul 20, 2022, 10:40 PM
Jul 2022

Biggs is basically saying it is OK to shoot immigrants.

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