As Many as 80,000 Russian Forces Killed, Wounded in Ukraine: Pentagon

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Source: U S News and World Report

Russia has endured as many as 80,000 casualties since President Vladimir Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine in February, according to the latest assessment from the Pentagon of the steep costs Moscow has paid.

Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Colin Kahl told reporters on Monday that the number of Russian soldiers killed or wounded in the fighting is somewhere between 70,000 and 80,000. Kahl, effectively the No. 3 civilian at the Pentagon, added that the number “is pretty remarkable given that Russia has achieved none of Vladimir Putin’s objectives in Ukraine.”

Read more: https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2022-08-08/as-many-as-80-000-russian-forces-killed-wounded-in-ukraine-pentagon

[Botany]

1. So at least 25% and most likely more of the Russian troops have been KIA or wounded?

n/t

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2. Of those originally sent, yes. Although if

I remember correctly, there were 190,000 Russians troops at the beginning. Therefore, they are approaching 50 percent.

If and when the Russian public receives solid facts about this war, I would guess a collective outrage will be directed at those responsible.

[Botany]

4. It is easy to be far away and guess @ the #s and what has and is happening but I seem to ...

.... remember the figure of 200,000 Russian troops in the initial assault.

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13. Either way

they are at 40% and possibly over the figure.

[ColinC]

3. Like 80% of the initial invading force, right?

That's a lot.

[Skittles]

5. think of how many kids have lost a parent because of Putin

sickening

[OnlinePoker]

11. Think of how many parents have lost their kids

And I'm not talking about soldiers. Fuck Putin and his Trump allies.

[mitch96]

22. He does not care as long as his political objectives are met... Like Stalin.. nt

[Skittles]

27. like Trump, in his dreams

yes indeed

[Mysterian]

6. They thought it was going to be a cakewalk

and it turned into a deadly quagmire.

[BigDemVoter]

7. Good. I wouldn't object to seeing more.

I know LOTS of Russian immigrants in SF. . . They love Putin, and they love P*$$Y Grabber too.

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14. I had heard that a lot of

evangelical Russian immigrants settled in Northern California a few decades ago.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

8. Putin has exposed Russia as a second rate military power

[BigmanPigman]

10. That is the silver lining as far as I am concerned.

Putin is weak and he HATES that!!!!! Good!

[mitch96]

23. My problem is he has nukes...nt

[maxsolomon]

9. Ukraine's losses have to be close to that.

IIRC, they were losing 100 soldiers a day in artillery duels.

Bloody useless quagmire. Putin has no regard for the value of human life. Worst person on the planet, bar none.

[myohmy2]

12. what...

...a waste of human life...and for what?

...but Ukrainians receive all my sympathy

...

[ffr]

15. Too bad. Don't go killing and looting a peaceful nation. If you do, expect what you deserve

Putin's fodder.

[modrepub]

16. Truth Has A Heavy Cost

If Ukraine had had a Russian puppet, I'm positive TFG and his Republican stooges would have blown the Hunter Biden thing up right before the election (just like they did the Hillary email thing in 2016). It took the media months to years to figure out that rouse. Too late to change the course of an election cycle.

[Lonestarblue]

17. Unfortunately, Ukrainians have probably lost at least as many soldiers plus hundreds of

thousands of civilians specifically targeted by Russian artillery. Sanctions may be hurting some Russian people, but they are doing nothing to atop Putin. Even his oligarchs are doing well because Russia is selling more gas to China and India at higher prices.

Putin is a dictator whose people fear him. They will not rise up against him as we once hoped because they have been cowed into submission over lifetimes and decades of punishment and execution. I believe this war will not stop until the Western powers make it stop. Hoping that Putin will run out of soldiers and weapons is happy talk. He will be resupplied with weapons by China and probably Iran. Soldiers will be conscripted, and more will be brought in from Chechnya. I have long supported the NATO powers sending every weapon needed to defeat Putin ASAP, along with stooping the nonsense that they will not give Ukraine the weapons allowing them to attack the Russian homeland. As far as I’m concerned, Ukraine has the right to attack Moscow if they want. Putin started this war without provocation. Russian cities should also pay the price.

[oldsoftie]

19. Actually thats probably NOT the case. UKR didnt fall into RU's plans for major battles.

Your point on civilians IS probably true of course. Horribly true. But the UKR military has been successful because they refused to get into big battles with a far superior (size wise anyway) enemy force. This enabled them to inflict heavier casualties on massed RU forces while minimizing UKR casualties. Had they gone head to head from the beginning, RU would have likely already "won" control.
Their goal is to get RU to mass forces so they can attack them with artillery instead of men. So far, RU keeps making the same mistakes.

[robodruid1]

21. Maybe

It is interesting that DOD did not give an estimate for Ukrainian fatalities as well.
Which suggests that they are depressingly high as well.

[oldsoftie]

24. The UKR government hasn't been totally quiet about it.

During the shift to the East, they said they were having over 100 a day killed & injured. Thats dropped now to around 30-40 last I read.But they don't give regular updates either
You can bet the civilian toll is worse since russia targets civilians.
And Russia hasn't released a KIA number since March; still stuck at 1351. Which we KNOW is way off or this war would be over by now.

[IronLionZion]

18. When are the Russian people going to say enough is enough?

and turn against Putin

[oldsoftie]

20. Maybe when that number is doubled the russian troops will say "ENOUGH!"

[mahatmakanejeeves]

25. So, three and a half to four times the casualties on both sides at Sharpsburg.

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That was for one day.

Battle of Antietam

[G2theD]

26. 199,000 were killed or wounded in Hiroshima and Nagasaki! 64,000 in Nagasaki alone.

This is a disaster for Russia.