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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,481 posts)
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 10:17 AM Aug 2022

Former President Donald Trump invokes Fifth Amendment rights and declines to answer questions from N

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Source: CNN

Former President Donald Trump invoked his Fifth Amendment rights and declined to answer questions from the New York attorney general at a scheduled deposition Wednesday.

"Under the advice of my counsel and for all of the above reasons, I declined to answer the questions under the rights and privileges afforded to every citizen under the United States Constitution," Trump said in a statement.

Trump was to be deposed by lawyers from New York Attorney General Letitia James' office as part of a more than three-year civil investigation into whether the Trump Organization misled lenders, insurers and tax authorities by providing them misleading financial statements.

Trump said in a post on Truth Social earlier Wednesday morning that he would be "seeing" James "for a continuation of the greatest Witch Hunt in U.S. history! My great company, and myself, are being attacked from all sides. Banana Republic!"

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/10/politics/trump-deposition-ny-attorney-general/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twcnnbrk&utm_content=2022-08-10T14%3A52%3A59&utm_term=link

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Former President Donald Trump invokes Fifth Amendment rights and declines to answer questions from N (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 OP
Former president Trump says he invoked his Fifth Amendment rights during his deposition with ⁦NYAG LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #1
Didn't he say one time that anyone who invoked the 5th hamsterjill Aug 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author sop Aug 2022 #6
Yes, and that claim now needs to be repeated over and over on social media. Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #12
Already did my part on Facebook. hamsterjill Aug 2022 #13
The quotes from TFDG on this thread are missing the best part! robbob Aug 2022 #39
Here you go. TomSlick Aug 2022 #44
Not just once but multiple times. Prof. Toru Tanaka Aug 2022 #56
Why am I not surprised? Wicked Blue Aug 2022 #2
Wait, didn't he say something about pleading the 5th is for the guilty? Siwsan Aug 2022 #3
Thank you. hamsterjill Aug 2022 #5
Here you go ... Jarqui Aug 2022 #7
Thanks! CaptainTruth Aug 2022 #32
"Self incrimination says it all". efhmc Aug 2022 #8
So according to his own standards RocRizzo55 Aug 2022 #9
AP BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #10
"You see the mob takes the Fifth," said a certain former guy. Eugene Aug 2022 #11
As they say, if it walks like a crook, and talks like a crook,.... Well you know the rest ashredux Aug 2022 #15
"The mob takes the Fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?" LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #18
Only crooks take the 5th. Right, Donnie? NCjack Aug 2022 #14
Not a good look for a twice impeached former President... BlueIdaho Aug 2022 #16
"You see the mob takes the Fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?" - LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #17
Gee musclecar6 Aug 2022 #19
Trump is arrogant and dumb .. agingdem Aug 2022 #20
That just shows he's guilty as hell. (nt) Paladin Aug 2022 #21
Like nobody knew that before. AngryOldDem Aug 2022 #27
Keep in mind ... (this is good) ... Novara Aug 2022 #22
Know who testified for 11 hours without invoking the fifth amendment? NYC Liberal Aug 2022 #23
Well! Well, well, well, well, well well...😄 Go, Hillary! 👍 electric_blue68 Aug 2022 #50
Alex Famous Presidential Qoutes for $1000 please. Historic NY Aug 2022 #24
How long do we have to keep on putting up with this useless piece of shit? AngryOldDem Aug 2022 #25
Witch hunt! Bayard Aug 2022 #26
Witch caught. Hunt over. SergeStorms Aug 2022 #40
He said only the mob pleads the 5th IronLionZion Aug 2022 #28
Ha! BlueWavePsych Aug 2022 #29
Too bad it wasn't televised. SheltieLover Aug 2022 #30
its impossible for him to tell the truth and lying means jail time so this is his only option yaesu Aug 2022 #31
It is a civil, not criminal, case so no jail time. AllyCat Aug 2022 #36
He would have been indicted and convicted ten times if he was a Dem Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #33
. Beachnutt Aug 2022 #34
Who knew witch hunts had 5th Amendment protections? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2022 #35
"Banana republic"? Only between January 2017 and January 2021 generalbetrayus Aug 2022 #37
Trump cowers, pleads the Fifth and refuses to answer a SINGLE question under oath LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #38
So did he have to sit there and say take the 5th to EVERY question? bluestarone Aug 2022 #41
He has given... Quanto Magnus Aug 2022 #42
Always musclecar6 Aug 2022 #43
I mean he pretty much had to right? jcgoldie Aug 2022 #45
Fab optics? Brainfodder Aug 2022 #46
So what happens now? Katinfl Aug 2022 #47
Being a civil (not criminal) matter... HariSeldon Aug 2022 #49
That's what guilty people do. Turbineguy Aug 2022 #48
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #51
Screenshots for the Twitterless FakeNoose Aug 2022 #52
Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #53
President Biden is a Lawmaker while Trump is a Lawbreaker... LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #54
For the Twitterless FakeNoose Aug 2022 #55
TFG has a new hat for sale LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #57
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #58

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
4. Didn't he say one time that anyone who invoked the 5th
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 10:20 AM
Aug 2022

Is guilty? I haven’t bothered to Google for a link, but I seem to remember this.

Response to hamsterjill (Reply #4)

Lonestarblue

(10,040 posts)
12. Yes, and that claim now needs to be repeated over and over on social media.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 10:33 AM
Aug 2022

Of course, Fox will not resurrect it because they haven’t yet decided whether to abandon him because they might lose viewers who are still in the Trump cult of worship.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
13. Already did my part on Facebook.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 10:34 AM
Aug 2022

I agree that it should be repeated. Twice on Facebook so far today - my thanks to the DU’ers who provided a link!

robbob

(3,536 posts)
39. The quotes from TFDG on this thread are missing the best part!
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 12:39 PM
Aug 2022

He actually addressed his former claim about only guilty people taking the fifth. He says something to the effect that now he understands why people take the fifth; if you’re the victim of “a politically motivated witch hunt” you have no choice but to plead the fifth.

In other words, when people accuse you of things you never did you have no choice but to clam up and refuse to address those accusations to defend yourself.

Quick, someone call Hillary…😂

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,980 posts)
56. Not just once but multiple times.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 02:57 AM
Aug 2022

Of course now since HE is involved in a "witch hunt", he understands why it is a necessary thing to do. Typical Trump bullshit and double talk.

Lock that fucker up!

Siwsan

(26,287 posts)
3. Wait, didn't he say something about pleading the 5th is for the guilty?
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 10:20 AM
Aug 2022

Ah, yes.

"You see the mob takes the Fifth," he said during one rally in Iowa. "If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-quote-about-fifth-amendment-resurfaces-allies-use-it-jan-6-panel-1660741

BumRushDaShow

(129,320 posts)
10. AP
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 10:29 AM
Aug 2022
Trump says he took the Fifth Amendment in NY investigation


By MICHAEL BALSAMO and MICHAEL R. SISAK5 minutes ago


WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump says he invoked the Fifth Amendment and wouldn’t answer questions under oath in the long-running New York civil investigation into his business dealings.

Trump arrived at New York Attorney General Letitia James’ offices Wednesday morning, but sent out a statement more than an hour later saying he declined to answer the questions under the rights and privileges afforded to every citizen under the United States Constitution.”

Anything he said during the deposition could have been used against him in a criminal case. While James’ investigation is civil in nature, the Manhattan district attorney is running a parallel criminal probe.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ny-investigation-testimony-a4e6264d44b194d24dfb916ffc7f51ca

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
16. Not a good look for a twice impeached former President...
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 10:47 AM
Aug 2022

Everyone in America knows who “takes the fifth.” This is just the beginning of his house of cards coming down.

musclecar6

(1,690 posts)
19. Gee
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 10:58 AM
Aug 2022

I can’t believe that Don the Con took the fifth. He knows he can Con his way out of anything, right ? Oh wait a minute, hasn’t he said on multiple occasions that somebody who takes the fifth is guilty ?

So going by his many statements to that effect, then I guess he has something to hide and is guilty. Let’s see you bullshit your way out of this one, asshole.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
27. Like nobody knew that before.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 11:25 AM
Aug 2022

I hope his day of reckoning can now be measured in months, if not weeks. And if his brain-dead zombies raise hell, deal with them, too.

Novara

(5,850 posts)
22. Keep in mind ... (this is good) ...
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 11:13 AM
Aug 2022

... that a lot of states will instruct jurors not to draw any inferences from someone invoking the 5th.

New York is not one of them.

Yes, in a civil trial, jurors can definitely draw inferences from his refusal to testify.

LOCK HIM UP.

Historic NY

(37,452 posts)
24. Alex Famous Presidential Qoutes for $1000 please.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 11:22 AM
Aug 2022

DAILY DOUBLE


A reminder that in 2016, Trump said: "The mob takes the Fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"

Remember, Trump has asked why an innocent person would take the Fifth Amendment, calling it “disgraceful” and “horrible.”

Well, meet Mr Disgraceful & Horrible.


AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
25. How long do we have to keep on putting up with this useless piece of shit?
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 11:23 AM
Aug 2022

He’s a walking, talking (or not talking, in this case) cancer.

Funny how he’s all bluster and big talk, until he gets before the law.

Tired of his ass.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
40. Witch caught. Hunt over.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 12:43 PM
Aug 2022

The only thing remaining is giving the witch (warlock, in this case) his constitutionally guaranteed right to a trial by his peers.

So the "witch" should just sit down and shut up. He'll have every chance to prove his innocence in a court of law. And of course he's innocent, right? 😉

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
31. its impossible for him to tell the truth and lying means jail time so this is his only option
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 11:51 AM
Aug 2022

lets hope its not a slap on the wrist and he loses business privilege's in ny. he will just get the gop tp pay any settlement.

AllyCat

(16,214 posts)
36. It is a civil, not criminal, case so no jail time.
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 12:14 PM
Aug 2022

Just money which his loons will happily provide.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,347 posts)
35. Who knew witch hunts had 5th Amendment protections?
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 12:04 PM
Aug 2022

Well, the Salem trials did press Giles Corey to death trying to make him enter a plea, which I suppose is related:

According to the law at the time, a person who refused to plead could not be tried. To avoid people cheating justice, the legal remedy for refusing to plead was "peine forte et dure". In this process, prisoners were stripped naked, and heavy boards were laid on their bodies. Then rocks or boulders were laid on the plank of wood. This was the process of being pressed:

... remanded to the prison from whence he came and put into a low dark chamber, and there be laid on his back on the bare floor, naked, unless when decency forbids; that there be placed upon his body as great a weight as he could bear, and more, that he hath no sustenance, save only on the first day, three morsels of the worst bread, and the second day three draughts of standing water, that should be alternately his daily diet till he died, or, till he answered.

As a result of his refusal to plead, on September 17, Corey was subjected to the procedure by Sheriff George Corwin, but he was steadfast in that refusal, nor did he cry out in pain as the rocks were placed on the boards. After two days, Corey was asked three times to enter a plea, but each time he replied, "More weight", and the sheriff complied. Occasionally, Corwin would even stand on the stones himself. Robert Calef, who was a witness along with other townsfolk, later said, "In the pressing, Giles Corey's tongue was pressed out of his mouth; the Sheriff, with his cane, forced it in again." There are several accounts of Corey's last words. The most commonly told one is that he repeated his request for "more weight", as this was how it was dramatized in The Crucible, but it may also have been "More rocks". Another telling notes it as, "Damn you. I curse you and Salem!"

Samuel Sewall's diary states, under date of Monday, September 19, 1692:

About noon at Salem, Giles Cory was pressed to death for standing mute; much pains was used with him two days, one after another, by the court and Captain Gardner of Nantucket who had been of his acquaintance, but all in vain.

It is unusual for people to refuse to plead, and extremely rare to find reports of people who have been able to endure this painful form of death in silence. Since Corey refused to plead, he died in full possession of his estate, which would otherwise have been forfeited to the government. It passed on to his two sons-in-law, in accordance to his will.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giles_Corey

Can we hope? I can't see Trump doing anything like that to benefit his children, though.

bluestarone

(17,012 posts)
41. So did he have to sit there and say take the 5th to EVERY question?
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 12:46 PM
Aug 2022

I hope they made him do that to EVERY question.

Quanto Magnus

(898 posts)
42. He has given...
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 01:19 PM
Aug 2022

any political opponent a gigantic amount of ammunition

Play vids of Trump saying 'anyone who pleads the fifth is guilty'

Then show Trump's statement about taking the fifth.

musclecar6

(1,690 posts)
43. Always
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 01:30 PM
Aug 2022


The victim. The real victims are those fucking morons they can’t see through this guy and keep unloading their wallet for him. They’re even bigger jerk offs than he is.

jcgoldie

(11,636 posts)
45. I mean he pretty much had to right?
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 01:38 PM
Aug 2022

His attorneys know that he is incapable of speaking 3 sentences without lying and he doesn't even seem to think there's a difference between actual facts and his bullshit.

Katinfl

(158 posts)
47. So what happens now?
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 04:02 PM
Aug 2022

I have not read anything to explain where the AG goes now. Surely they knew what he would do.

HariSeldon

(455 posts)
49. Being a civil (not criminal) matter...
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 05:50 PM
Aug 2022

the AG can probably get his 5th-A pleas put in front of the jury with a negative inference -- basically, that Trump should have been able to answer these questions without incriminating (i.e. making a criminal of) himself.

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