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discocrisco01

(1,666 posts)
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 07:57 AM Aug 2022

2nd Australian state bans public displays of Nazi swastikas

Source: Associated Press

SYDNEY (AP) — A second Australian state on Thursday banned public displays of Nazi symbols.

New South Wales, the nation’s most populous state, followed Victoria, the second most populous, which banned the public display of Nazi swastikas in June.

The law was passed with the unanimous support of the state parliament’s upper chamber. The lower chamber passed the bill on Tuesday.

Queensland and Tasmania states have foreshadowed similar laws, which would mean half of Australia’s eight states and territories and most of the Australian population were banned from displaying Nazi symbols

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/religion-australia-queensland-victoria-new-south-wales-bda0b9f21a69058a34e2c3cd693f8885

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2nd Australian state bans public displays of Nazi swastikas (Original Post) discocrisco01 Aug 2022 OP
Good for them The Jungle 1 Aug 2022 #1
If the American men who fought in WWII were still alive, there would be fighting in the streets. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #3
It is our turn this time. The Jungle 1 Aug 2022 #4
Yes we are up to the plate now. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #6
Australia came very close to invasion and occupation by the enemy during WWII. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #2
I don't think it was all that close in the end... Violet_Crumble Aug 2022 #5
The US came close to losing the war in the Pacific during WWII. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #7
I agree. We can see a lot in hindsight that they couldn't see at the time... Violet_Crumble Aug 2022 #8
Interesting history, thanks. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #9
 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
1. Good for them
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:08 AM
Aug 2022

We have pukes marching with tiki torches and nazi flags. While chanting nazi racist filth and killing people. Wonder which party they belong to.

Irish_Dem

(47,423 posts)
3. If the American men who fought in WWII were still alive, there would be fighting in the streets.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:12 AM
Aug 2022

They defeated fascism once, they would defeat it again.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
4. It is our turn this time.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:22 AM
Aug 2022

My father was part of the famous 82nd Airborne and yes he would be having a fit.
We must push back on government officials who trample our rights. A lot of public officials are out of control. Police for example.
Fascism will lose!

Irish_Dem

(47,423 posts)
6. Yes we are up to the plate now.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 09:02 AM
Aug 2022

Oh wow, that is so neat that your dad was 82nd. A very dangerous job.

In WWII my dad flew in the also famous Burma Hump, flying over the Himalayas from India to China.
He was an 18 yr old tail gunner, it is a miracle he lived. He stayed in the Air Force and then went on to fly combat in Korea and Viet Nam.

Yes we can well imagine what our fathers would be saying right now.

We are now seeing much more clearly the fascist rot has spread wide and deep in the US government.
Not just police but the military as well. And almost all US institutions.

It is the fight of our lives. I truly do not know how it will turn out.

Irish_Dem

(47,423 posts)
2. Australia came very close to invasion and occupation by the enemy during WWII.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:10 AM
Aug 2022

They probably are not inclined to see reminders of that.

The United States military saved their bacon and stopped the Japanese before they got to Australia.

Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
5. I don't think it was all that close in the end...
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 08:29 AM
Aug 2022

Japan never had any solid plans to invade Australia, but the Allies were worried it might happen even though Japanese supply lines wouldn't have stretched far enough and it would have been impossible for Japan to launch an invasion of a mostly empty continent. Darwin and Sydney were bombed, an a small number of Japanese troops did manage to land in Western Australia trying to investigate reports of a massive Allied base being built, but they wandered round aimlessly and never encountered people so they left again. The US didn't save us from anything. What the US did was fill the gap left by Britain refusing to help when Australia felt threatened by Japan.

Anyway, what's led to these new laws is a disturbing rise in neo-nazi groups. I hope all other states and territories follow the lead of Victoria and New South Wales....

Irish_Dem

(47,423 posts)
7. The US came close to losing the war in the Pacific during WWII.
Thu Aug 11, 2022, 09:09 AM
Aug 2022

If that had happened, it would not have been good at all for Australia.

The fighting on the Pacific islands was horrific and prolonged.
And the US had its own supply problems as well.

The Japanese had naval superiority. And the US was spread thin, fighting on two fronts.
The Pacific and Europe.

If Japanese Admiral Yamamoto had not made some serious mistakes in the Battle of Midway,
it would not have gone well for the US. Thank god we won that battle and it was a turning point.

But the point I am making is that Australia did not know until the end how the war would turn out.
Neither did the US.

Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
8. I agree. We can see a lot in hindsight that they couldn't see at the time...
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 04:47 AM
Aug 2022

We had Papua New Guinea as a buffer against the Japanese. I've seen the old fortifications around Port Moresby and walked a bit of the Kokoda Trail, and if that hadn't held we'd have been in a lot of trouble. There were plans to evacuate the top half of Australia (from Brisbane down) and defend the bottom half which was much more populated, but thankfully that never happened thanks to the US...

I think the US had a better idea of how things could turn out than Australia. Since we've been colonised we've had this terrible habit of seeing threats everywhere. Back in the very early days of settlement of the colony of Queensland they urged the British government to invade Fiji as they were worried Fiji might invade Queensland. The British weren't impressed with the incessant complaining from the colonies, and I think that carried over to WW2 where Britain cut us loose and the US became our new protector...

Irish_Dem

(47,423 posts)
9. Interesting history, thanks.
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:14 AM
Aug 2022

Oh yes, after WWII, the US fresh with an incredible victory, begin to see the war in a bit of a glow.

I am a WWII buff and if you look at the reality, battle by battle, it was not at all certain that the allies would win. Germany and Japan were formidable enemies.

Yes there was no way Gt Britain could offer much help to Australia. They were under horrific siege at home and were barely surviving until the US came into the war.

I never heard about the plans to evacuate the top half of Australia to the bottom half. And then fight from there. Very interesting. If the Japanese had taken Australia it would not have been a good thing.

You might like to watch Steven Spielberg's The Pacific, a mini series. It is a fictionalized account of the war in the Pacific, and it is excellent, but gut smacking. It will show you what Australia was facing.

One of the episodes shows the American marines coming to Australia for much needed rest and medical care after the horrific fighting at the Battle of Guadalcanal. The men are stunned by the incredibly warm reception by the Australians and outpouring of appreciation. The US marines had been fighting under horrific conditions for years, were isolated and felt like no one cared or knew what they were going through. So coming to Australia is shown as the best medicine known to man. An outpouring of love and appreciation.

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