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groundloop

(11,519 posts)
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 10:22 PM Aug 2022

Former flight attendant sues Delta Air Lines after it fired her for sharing anti-Trump editorial ...

Source: CNN


Full Headline: Former flight attendant sues Delta Air Lines after it fired her for sharing anti-Trump editorial cartoon on social media

An employment discrimination lawsuit filed by a former Delta Air Lines flight attendant says she was fired for posting an image of former President Donald Trump wearing a Ku Klux Klan hood on her personal Facebook page.

The plaintiff, Leondra Taylor, who is Black, admitted she posted a cartoon image on her personal Facebook page depicting then-President Trump and then-former Vice President Joe Biden during one of their presidential debates in 2020, according to the lawsuit filed Monday in federal district court in Atlanta.

In the cartoon, Trump is pictured wearing a Ku Klux Klan hood as he stands at the podium across from Biden. The image includes a quote bubble over the head of the debate moderator saying, "Thank you, Mr. President, for wearing your mask."

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Delta "came across some political posts that it deemed to be in violation of its social media policy" during a review of Taylor's Facebook page sparked by another employee, the lawsuit states. In January 2021, a group of Delta employees told Taylor her posts were unacceptable and said it did not "tolerate, disrespectful, hateful or discriminatory posts," according to the lawsuit.




Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/13/us/flight-attendant-delta-lawsuit-trump-cartoon/index.html

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Former flight attendant sues Delta Air Lines after it fired her for sharing anti-Trump editorial ... (Original Post) groundloop Aug 2022 OP
Hopes she wins, bigly. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #1
If they don't agree with her FB posts do what the rest of us do, unfriend her, very simple. Bev54 Aug 2022 #3
This will be a case to watch. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #7
It doesn't work that way Random Boomer Aug 2022 #32
Political expression isn't a protected class under Civil Rights laws. brooklynite Aug 2022 #34
Time to fire white anti-Biden employees, too mainer Aug 2022 #2
Let me guess. "a review of Taylor's Facebook page sparked by another employee" means this: DFW Aug 2022 #4
Political speech is the most protected. Phoenix61 Aug 2022 #5
It's a twofer!!! - In the pocketbook and with public opinion - most flying business don't relate to OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2022 #8
The 1st only protects us from being punished by the government and even it has limitations. cstanleytech Aug 2022 #11
True but I still think the fact it's political speech is Phoenix61 Aug 2022 #12
Depends.... paleotn Aug 2022 #24
thought Delta was better than this... bahboo Aug 2022 #6
Delta supports white supremacists GreenWave Aug 2022 #9
Good-bye Delta. Bluethroughu Aug 2022 #10
Delta is doing what a number of companies do which is to try and alienate as few people as possible. cstanleytech Aug 2022 #13
I think Delta got the majority side wrong. Bluethroughu Aug 2022 #15
Delta is saying that it isn't the full picture LeftInTX Aug 2022 #18
They need to make certain that there are no UpInArms Aug 2022 #14
Hey, I made the right choice! BWdem4life Aug 2022 #16
Delta states that LeftInTX Aug 2022 #17
Bet there is a whole lot more to this story Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #19
Truth is a valid defense. James48 Aug 2022 #20
And this is exactly why I stay off the social media grid as much as possible. Initech Aug 2022 #21
I'll be interested in how this plays out rpannier Aug 2022 #22
I took all references to my employer out of my social media exboyfil Aug 2022 #23
Very wise. paleotn Aug 2022 #25
Delta "came across some political posts" Oh, they did, did they? PerceptionManagement Aug 2022 #26
another employee snitched, apparently. niyad Aug 2022 #30
@Delta supports trump racism PerceptionManagement Aug 2022 #27
So Delta...I think Donald Trump should be arrested for Espionage and turbinetree Aug 2022 #28
Oh, when I read things like this - I regret not becoming a lawyer packman Aug 2022 #29
All large companies have a social media policy Random Boomer Aug 2022 #31
Definitely not a fan AggressiveCanary Aug 2022 #33

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
1. Hopes she wins, bigly.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 10:35 PM
Aug 2022

It cuts both ways....your world-view beliefs, off the job, is your right....Delta should not be basing hiring/firing on the basis of private opinions shared with the public. Performance? Does Delta monitor/fire employees with militia type posts (say, Free Republic)? Is this is a hiring flag?

On the other hand, maybe this will hasten amass migration out of Facebook and back to a different reality.

Bev54

(10,052 posts)
3. If they don't agree with her FB posts do what the rest of us do, unfriend her, very simple.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 10:40 PM
Aug 2022

She still has first amendment right, why is it the RW thinks that they are the only ones who have a right to free speech.

Random Boomer

(4,168 posts)
32. It doesn't work that way
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 11:05 AM
Aug 2022

All large companies have strict social media policies governing public employees statements. "Private" opinions are comments posted to a group of Friends, and you'd be wise to closely monitor who is in that Friends group if it also includes co-workers.

Whether you like it or not, that social media policy can be the basis for being fired. One of the perks of retirement is that I'll no longer have to be so cautious about what I post and where, but as long as I'm employed by a Fortune 500 company, I keep my public postings -- when using my RL name -- on the bland side. It's a condition of employment that I've accepted because I like having a salary.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
34. Political expression isn't a protected class under Civil Rights laws.
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 08:51 AM
Aug 2022

If the terms were agreed to at the time of employment, the employee has no cause to sue.

Add to which, I'm willing to bet nobody here would be standing up for her rights if her opinions went the other way.....

mainer

(12,022 posts)
2. Time to fire white anti-Biden employees, too
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 10:38 PM
Aug 2022

I’m sure they can find a few Delta MAGAS posting content on Facebook.

DFW

(54,379 posts)
4. Let me guess. "a review of Taylor's Facebook page sparked by another employee" means this:
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 10:41 PM
Aug 2022

A Delta Trumpanzee found out she was NOT a Trumpanzee, and decided to look for ways to get her in trouble and fired.

I hope she wins a $25,000,000 settlement.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
8. It's a twofer!!! - In the pocketbook and with public opinion - most flying business don't relate to
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 10:49 PM
Aug 2022

Meal Team 6 Insurrectionist types.

Well played Delta!

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
11. The 1st only protects us from being punished by the government and even it has limitations.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 11:21 PM
Aug 2022

This however was not the government but rather a private company.

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
24. Depends....
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 08:14 AM
Aug 2022

If she identifies as a Delta employee on her facebook page, they can argue that what she posts there may have a negative impact on Delta. If she doesn't, then she's more than likely correct and Delta has overstepped. Same deal with Trumpers posting bigoted crap on their social media, IF such posts can be easily tied back to an employer, potentially damaging that employer's public image and business. Whether or not it's political speech is irrelevant.

The moral of this story is, stay anonymous on the interwebs. At the very least don't divulge too much personal info. If you do, things can get complicated.

Bluethroughu

(5,169 posts)
10. Good-bye Delta.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 11:20 PM
Aug 2022

Trump in a KKK robe, is exactly who he is. He has no problem with that group, so why did Delta.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
13. Delta is doing what a number of companies do which is to try and alienate as few people as possible.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 11:27 PM
Aug 2022

Is it right? Personally I do not think it is but there is a lot of things not right in this world such as Trumps father not pulling out beforehand the night Trump was conceived.

LeftInTX

(25,336 posts)
18. Delta is saying that it isn't the full picture
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 12:26 AM
Aug 2022

They can't censor everyone.

Did she do this as an "Employee of Delta"? Companies have "no politics" policies. Did she do this as a private person?..Then it's her business and Delta will lose big time. I'm sure there are many RW employees on SM spewing RW crap and they don't get terminated.

Was she terminated for another reason?

LeftInTX

(25,336 posts)
17. Delta states that
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 12:23 AM
Aug 2022
the circumstances described by our former employee are not an accurate or complete explanation of the company's termination decision."



I really don't think Delta would terminate an employee over something like this mainly because there are probably many RW white employees of Delta who share all sorts of crap. Delta would be really stupid to single out an AA employee for this particular SM post.

Although my brother wasn't on SM, he was always spewing RW stuff and was a pilot for American.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
22. I'll be interested in how this plays out
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 04:16 AM
Aug 2022

If she did violate policy and Delta has applied the policy to everyone she could easily lose

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
23. I took all references to my employer out of my social media
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 06:35 AM
Aug 2022

This happened after my daughter's friend was terminated from her employer for her opinion expressed on FB.

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
25. Very wise.
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 08:21 AM
Aug 2022

Another aspect of the curse of social media. Compared to pre-social media days, our voices now are amplified by factors of 100. Use to be we could say pretty much whatever we wanted in public and no one cared. Unless we were wearing a company uniform and shouting it from a busy street corner, the impact to an employer was minimal at best. Social media changed all that. Stinks, but that's the world we live in.

27. @Delta supports trump racism
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 08:50 AM
Aug 2022

Unless the FA was wearing her @Delta uniform, or saying something stupid like, "On behalf of @Delta airlines...", she off duty. It's none of @Delta's business.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
28. So Delta...I think Donald Trump should be arrested for Espionage and
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 10:03 AM
Aug 2022

be is jail right now ...are you going to bar people that think this way off your planes?

And if you are completely blind to the issue maybe someone in your group should re-read this article.....

“These people love me. These are my people.”

BY BESS LEVIN

SEPTEMBER 16, 2021


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/donald-trump-white-supremacists-my-people


 

packman

(16,296 posts)
29. Oh, when I read things like this - I regret not becoming a lawyer
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 10:06 AM
Aug 2022

How can Delta possibly weasel out of this?

Random Boomer

(4,168 posts)
31. All large companies have a social media policy
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 10:59 AM
Aug 2022

Posting any kind of political statement on social media is a risk for employees in those corporations. The social media policy is clearly stated in employee handbook.

For the past 10 years I've worked for a Fortune 500 company and I'm VERY careful about my postings. If I venture in to political posts, I do so in a defined Friends group and I avoid commenting on any political post marked as Public. I'm also really careful who I Friend among my co-workers. In fact, one of my Managing Directors -- who I suspect is quite liberal -- has a policy of never Friending any co-worker, out of an abundance of caution.

I've also removed my company name and employment history from my Facebook account, to again lessen the association between myself and that company so that any post can't be seen as a reflection on the company image.

The next time you applaud a RWNJ being fired from their job, just remember that the sword cuts both ways.

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