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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 01:37 AM Aug 2022

Palestinian gunman wounds 8 in late-night Jerusalem shooting (UPDATE)

Last edited Sun Aug 14, 2022, 10:47 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: AP

JERUSALEM (AP) — A Palestinian gunman opened fire at a bus near Jerusalem’s Old City early Sunday, wounding eight Israelis in an attack that came a week after violence flared up between Israel and militants in Gaza, police and medics said.

Two of the victims were in serious condition, including a pregnant woman with abdominal injuries and a man with gunshot wounds to the head and neck, according to Israeli hospitals treating them.

The U.S. Ambassador to Israel, Tom Nides, tweeted that there were American citizens among the wounded. An embassy spokesperson disclosed no other information or details.

The shooting happened as the bus waited in a parking lot near David’s Tomb on Mount Zion, just outside the Old City walls. Israeli media identified the suspected attacker as a 26-year-old Palestinian from east Jerusalem.



Israeli police crime scene investigators work at the scene of a shooting attack that wounded several Israelis near the Old City of Jerusalem, early Sunday, Aug. 14, 2022. Israeli police and medics say a gunman opened fire at a bus in a suspected Palestinian attack that came a week after violence flared up between Israel and militants in Gaza. (AP Photo/ Maya Alleruzzo)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-jerusalem-israel-west-bank-militant-groups-b39119f3f5d11747b54435b76555fcf5

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Palestinian gunman wounds 8 in late-night Jerusalem shooting (UPDATE) (Original Post) Omaha Steve Aug 2022 OP
Five Americans injured in the attack. Beastly Boy Aug 2022 #1
leave now that its fixed SYFROYH Aug 2022 #2
K and R. .Thanks for posting.. Stuart G Aug 2022 #3
Would it just be SOOOOO terrible for the Palestinian radicals to... Archae Aug 2022 #4
I wonder what could have motivated him? TiberiusB Aug 2022 #5
Who gives a fuck about his motivation? Elessar Zappa Aug 2022 #6
So Israel is a piece of shit then? TiberiusB Aug 2022 #11
Amnesty International has lost nearly all credibility... Archae Aug 2022 #7
How about Human Rights Watch then? TiberiusB Aug 2022 #12
In the Middle East, it goes both ways. Archae Aug 2022 #13
I suspect that has a lot to do with Israel's dominance TiberiusB Aug 2022 #14
Israel's apartheid against Palestinians 867-5309. Aug 2022 #8
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to blame Israel. DavidDvorkin Aug 2022 #9
Of course. The Palestinians can just do NOOOOOOOOO wrong! Archae Aug 2022 #10

Archae

(46,327 posts)
4. Would it just be SOOOOO terrible for the Palestinian radicals to...
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 09:08 PM
Aug 2022

Just knock off the bullshit attacks?

TiberiusB

(487 posts)
11. So Israel is a piece of shit then?
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 11:10 AM
Aug 2022

If you don't address the why, you are just begging for this scenario to repeat itself. It's like dismissing every case of gun violence in the U.S. as just the act of monsters, so why consider the underlying factors that drove them to act.

Whether you agree with Israel's actions or not, it isn't hard to see that there are many factors at play here. If you see yourself as having no other recourse and are in a state of despair, making the leap to violence may be an increasingly more tempting option. The far right militias in the States may seem crazy and utterly out of touch with reality, but many of them genuinely believe what they are saying. If you don't address the propaganda, the disinformation, the culture of violence that forms the basis of much of U.S. history, you are only treating a symptom and not the disease.

Archae

(46,327 posts)
7. Amnesty International has lost nearly all credibility...
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 11:34 AM
Aug 2022

By slamming Ukraine and propping up Russia.

As to the Palestinians in Gaza, I've seen they STILL put on kids' TV shows calling for "martyrs" to attack Jews, and take money and supplies to build more terrorist weapons like those rockets and incendiary balloons.

TiberiusB

(487 posts)
12. How about Human Rights Watch then?
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 11:22 AM
Aug 2022
https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution

The U.N.?

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/03/israels-55-year-occupation-palestinian-territory-apartheid-un-human-rights

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/03/latest-news-on-russias-war-on-ukraine/

That doesn't sound like propping up Russia. Amnesty may have been wrong to criticize Ukraine for how and where they set up their forces, but that is not the same as cheerleading for Putin.

Pointing out wrongs on one side doesn't excuse the other from it's abuses. It's a common bias to assume that if one side is bad, the other must be good. It's a black and white world view that ignores the fact that Israel is facing legitimate criticism for it's treatment of Gaza and the West Bank.

Archae

(46,327 posts)
13. In the Middle East, it goes both ways.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 11:55 AM
Aug 2022

The problem is there are too many activists and even governments willing to always condemn Israel, while always letting Palestinians off the hook.

TiberiusB

(487 posts)
14. I suspect that has a lot to do with Israel's dominance
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 06:02 PM
Aug 2022

Israel's hold on that region is effectively iron clad. HAMAS, for all it's bluster, can't really make a tiny dent in that. No air force, no armored division, no formal army, etc., etc., and a collection of missiles as likely to fall on their own heads as Israel's (this is actually true as multiple Palestinians have been killed by HAMAS's unreliable tech). So while HAMAS undoubtedly exploits the situation for power and influence, as far as that goes, the danger they represent is miniscule when compared to the overwhelming might of the Israeli army. It may be a gamble, and there is certainly no guarantee of success, but Israel, by lifting the economic blockade on Gaza and halting settlements in the West Bank, stands a much better chance to affect change. I imagine the removal of HAMAS from power, or finding some way to mitigate their influence, would be a necessary and difficult hurdle to clear,

Archae

(46,327 posts)
10. Of course. The Palestinians can just do NOOOOOOOOO wrong!
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 03:44 PM
Aug 2022

No matter how innocent their victims and how blatantly corrupt their "leadership" is.

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