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MissMillie

(38,557 posts)
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 08:16 AM Aug 2022

Rand Paul calls for repeal of Espionage Act amid DOJ investigation into Trump taking classified docu

Source: Business Insider via MSN

Rand Paul calls for repeal of Espionage Act amid DOJ investigation into Trump taking classified documents to Mar-a-Lago


Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky called for the repeal of the Espionage Act after it was revealed that the Justice Department is investigating if former President Donald Trump potentially violated the Act.

"The Espionage Act was abused from the beginning to jail dissenters of WWI," tweeted Paul. "It is long past time to repeal this egregious affront to the 1st Amendment."

Paul shared a link to a 2019 article by Jacob Hornberger, a former Libertarian presidential candidate and founder of the Future of Freedom Foundation, which called the Espionage Act a "tyrannical law."

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rand-paul-calls-for-repeal-of-espionage-act-amid-doj-investigation-into-trump-taking-classified-documents-to-mar-a-lago/ar-AA10DO25?ocid=U483DHP&pc=U483&cvid=dc7094114a12497887ea6a1368f0d89d



Party (or demagogue) over country, anyone?


Notice that the time to get rid of the law is after you-know-who gets caught violating it.
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Rand Paul calls for repeal of Espionage Act amid DOJ investigation into Trump taking classified docu (Original Post) MissMillie Aug 2022 OP
STFU . . ..... Lovie777 Aug 2022 #1
Says the mule who went to Russia to hand deliver a secret letter to vlad in-person. TheBlackAdder Aug 2022 #31
Russian asset says what? Hiawatha Pete Aug 2022 #63
Spot on!! K&R onetexan Aug 2022 #74
Yup orangecrush Aug 2022 #83
Makes me wonder if Rand Paul is BlueGreenLady Aug 2022 #2
Yes, he certainly does sound PatSeg Aug 2022 #14
Socialism-sucking Kentucky really delivers on people who fuck over this country and the world. TheBlackAdder Aug 2022 #32
Or sagetea Aug 2022 #55
Once again Paul demonstrates why he gets punched in the head by people who know him. Augiedog Aug 2022 #3
yes, indeed. n/t KarenS Aug 2022 #4
In that case I hope he expands his social circle. Soon. dameatball Aug 2022 #13
hes on my punchables list for sure . but i wont do it . dont want to be wearing orange. AllaN01Bear Aug 2022 #23
Calling Rand Paul's neighbor. notinkansas Aug 2022 #67
One of Putin's Tools Shuffling Forward? Vogon_Glory Aug 2022 #5
So the 1st Amendment overrules what was promulgated in Article III of the Constitution? BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #6
You are assuming that they were screwed in properly before that? niyad Aug 2022 #20
Well that's true especially being the spawn of BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #26
Damn...we have a lot of "house cleaning " to do...he is a damn foreign agent now ashredux Aug 2022 #7
As I remember, a Senator Ted Kennedy quote, to new Senate Members, empedocles Aug 2022 #8
Oh, Rand! Bayard Aug 2022 #9
put him in the corner with mtg as too stupid to be taken seriously. nt yaesu Aug 2022 #10
Treason should go unpunished per Rand "tribble head" Paul. paleotn Aug 2022 #11
You may be a Republican... Fritz67 Aug 2022 #12
LOL claudette Aug 2022 #15
it's like teaching children sindri Aug 2022 #16
Something in Trumps safe pertaining to the Rand Peacetrain Aug 2022 #17
Yes, indeedy! n/t Vogon_Glory Aug 2022 #38
Just what a traitor to this country would posit Bristlecone Aug 2022 #18
Where is aqua buddha's neighbor when you need him?? niyad Aug 2022 #19
Exactly, GreenWave Aug 2022 #24
Blatant does not seem to be the good move here. TNNurse Aug 2022 #21
I just wonder if he had something in the heel of is fake shoes..... turbinetree Aug 2022 #22
What I just sent to my house rep The Jungle 1 Aug 2022 #25
Yup DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #47
NOW is not the time to... 3825-87867 Aug 2022 #27
I thought this was from The Onion Wednesdays Aug 2022 #28
Jinx! mn9driver Aug 2022 #30
Reading the headline, I thought this was from The Onion mn9driver Aug 2022 #29
Rand Paul needs to charged with espionage himself Marius25 Aug 2022 #33
Just when you thought Rand couldn't get more treasonous SouthernDem4ever Aug 2022 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Heather MC Aug 2022 #35
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Wow Really 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Heather MC Aug 2022 #36
How come the three classified emails on Hillary's server didn't receive this call? Jarqui Aug 2022 #37
The Treasonous Terrorist Party. wnylib Aug 2022 #61
What are Rebl2 Aug 2022 #39
The voters of Kentucky. Eyeball_Kid Aug 2022 #40
Exactly what a Co-conspirator would say. Kid Berwyn Aug 2022 #41
Rand Paul, "Calls for repeal of Espionage Act amid DOJ investigation into Trump." Botany Aug 2022 #42
Charles Booker is running for the Senate against Rand Paul. Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #43
+1 oasis Aug 2022 #87
Oh. So you've done it, too, eh, Rand? dchill Aug 2022 #44
FUCK RAND PAUL. dixiechiken1 Aug 2022 #45
As usual DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #46
In poker, this is known as a tell. Efilroft Sul Aug 2022 #48
Russian Rand shows his loyalty to Trump and Russia. keithbvadu2 Aug 2022 #49
Rand Paul is f**kn stupid Marthe48 Aug 2022 #50
How about Kentucky repeals Rand Paul? n/t malthaussen Aug 2022 #51
NOQ Do not repeal it, reform it. Codify behaviors like Trump at Mar-a-largo as ALL felonies with Samrob Aug 2022 #52
Didn't Rand know Old Crank Aug 2022 #53
.... BigmanPigman Aug 2022 #57
What an idiot! How much longer do we have to deal with this crap? ... aggiesal Aug 2022 #54
Special request from Putin? Aqua Buddha Randy didn't think of this on his own. Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #56
Aqua Buddha is a toilet-licking weasel Blue Owl Aug 2022 #64
and those are his good points Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #66
Of course he did relayerbob Aug 2022 #58
From the guy who wants the govt to spy on women's bodies! LeftInTX Aug 2022 #59
bravo! MissMillie Aug 2022 #65
Paul is a Putin asset just like tfg. Ziggysmom Aug 2022 #60
Russian Rand could argue that Alaska is part of Russia. keithbvadu2 Aug 2022 #72
They really don't even try to conseal anything anymore, do they? Sogo Aug 2022 #62
Going to share a little Old Time Religion with Brother Paul here. . . Collimator Aug 2022 #68
Fuck you, you squirrel-pelt-wearing, greedhead motherfucker. LudwigPastorius Aug 2022 #69
I wonder what deal was made to cause Rand Paul to tolerate espionage? AntiFascist Aug 2022 #70
"One way to stop Trump from violating laws is by repealing all the laws" IcyPeas Aug 2022 #71
FFF - another 'grass roots' group sponsored by Russia? keithbvadu2 Aug 2022 #73
Schumer has to clean house-er the Senate!!! riversedge Aug 2022 #75
Investigate Rand mzmolly Aug 2022 #76
FIRST of all SIT DOWN YoshidaYui Aug 2022 #77
Putin trained him well chuluma Aug 2022 #78
really makes me wonder what that little fucking weasel is hiding Skittles Aug 2022 #82
I wonder, how much dirt does Trump have on Rand Paul????? W T F Aug 2022 #79
GTFOH #clownshit 🤡 live love laugh Aug 2022 #80
So now they're at the "if we can't get away with breaking the law, change the law" stage. n/t CousinIT Aug 2022 #81
rand paul seems to be a foreign agent - probably russian samsingh Aug 2022 #84
Better idea - we offer you a blindfold and a cigarette BlueIdaho Aug 2022 #85
Russian assets need to be held accountable. LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #86

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
14. Yes, he certainly does sound
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 09:06 AM
Aug 2022

like a man who has something to hide. Nothing quite like drawing attention to yourself at a time like this.

AllaN01Bear

(18,216 posts)
23. hes on my punchables list for sure . but i wont do it . dont want to be wearing orange.
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 09:24 AM
Aug 2022
what a dunkoff.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
5. One of Putin's Tools Shuffling Forward?
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 08:30 AM
Aug 2022

I remember Rand Paul being rather cozy with the Russian Federation before the Federation’s attack on the Ukraine in February.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
6. So the 1st Amendment overrules what was promulgated in Article III of the Constitution?
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 08:32 AM
Aug 2022


Article III

(snip)

Section 3.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii


Am guessing his neighbor's assault of him knocked many screws loose in the noggin.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
8. As I remember, a Senator Ted Kennedy quote, to new Senate Members,
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 08:34 AM
Aug 2022

'You may wonder what you are doing here, then, after awhile, you wonder what some other Senators are doing here.'

[With laughter]

Fritz67

(353 posts)
12. You may be a Republican...
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 08:45 AM
Aug 2022

...If you prove how patriotic you are and how much you love America by wanting to legalize espionage against it.

Bristlecone

(10,127 posts)
18. Just what a traitor to this country would posit
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 09:16 AM
Aug 2022

On behalf of other traitors.

The party of treason. It’s out in the open for all to see.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
22. I just wonder if he had something in the heel of is fake shoes.....
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 09:21 AM
Aug 2022

Rand Paul Goes To Russia And Delivers Letter For Trump, Marking Our Era Of Irony

August 9, 20188:37 AM ET
Heard on All Things Considered

RON ELVING

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/08/09/ap_18218466449478_wide-ef73d0340853fd7edb84ac30e260ff9957477944-s800-c85.webp

By now, practically everyone has seen that picture of the two guys at President Trump's weekend rally in Ohio wearing T-shirts that said: "I'd Rather be a Russian than a Democrat!"

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/09/636982295/is-it-springtime-for-putin-and-republicans

And you can take your libertarian shit show and fucking move.....to Russia....

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
25. What I just sent to my house rep
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 09:27 AM
Aug 2022

Rand Paul is calling for the repeal of the Espionage Act.
Can your party go any lower???

3825-87867

(850 posts)
27. NOW is not the time to...
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 09:36 AM
Aug 2022

talk about (Fill in the Republican Blank)!

But Benghazi!! Hunter Biden!! etc., etc., ad infinitum Republicanosis!

Rand Paul - Ky(Яepublican!)

Response to MissMillie (Original post)

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
36. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Wow Really 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 09:53 AM
Aug 2022

So basically the Republican Stance is, America, we need to get rid of all of the laws that Donald Trump keeps breaking. So he will stop breaking all the laws🤣🤣🤣🤣

Jarqui

(10,125 posts)
37. How come the three classified emails on Hillary's server didn't receive this call?
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 09:54 AM
Aug 2022

Where are the Republican chants "lock him up!!" ??

It's not the Republican party. It's the Hypocrisy party (RINO > HIPPO)

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
40. The voters of Kentucky.
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 09:59 AM
Aug 2022

They’ll hopefully think long and hard before voting for this con artist again. He thinks he’s clever, but he’s really deluding himself into thinking that he has something useful to say. It’s garbage and always has been garbage. Putin, OTOH, is very happy with Paul.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
42. Rand Paul, "Calls for repeal of Espionage Act amid DOJ investigation into Trump."
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 10:01 AM
Aug 2022

aka "Hi I'm Rand Paul and I am a Russian agent."

The FBI, the NSA, Interpol, and the CIA need to get a good look @ Mr. Paul banking, his
communications, and his connections to Russia.

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
43. Charles Booker is running for the Senate against Rand Paul.
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 10:03 AM
Aug 2022

I have donated to his campaign, even knowing that he’s a long shot. We need Democrats like him to run in races like this. Sometimes they win! And Paul has been giving plenty of fodder for opposition ads with his stupid pronouncements. He didn’t bother going to Eastern Kentucky after the floods there, which also might hurt him.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
46. As usual
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 10:11 AM
Aug 2022

they want the constitution and laws written one way for them, and a different set for the rest of us......

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
49. Russian Rand shows his loyalty to Trump and Russia.
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 10:21 AM
Aug 2022

Russian Rand shows his loyalty to Trump and Russia.

His 1st Amendment rights to betray America.

Marthe48

(16,959 posts)
50. Rand Paul is f**kn stupid
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 10:23 AM
Aug 2022

There was an historical account of a kind cutting out a guy's tongue, then shaving his head, writing a secret message on the guy's head, waiting til his hair grew out, and then sending him to another king, who shaved the guy's head and read the message.

From earliest times, state secrets have been rigorously guarded. This stupid dolt saying a law violates free speech is a freakishly idiotic traitor to his country. Definitely take him off the reliable and trusted list and don't let him in on any secrets. He'll blather about them like he's talking about popping zits on his ass.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
52. NOQ Do not repeal it, reform it. Codify behaviors like Trump at Mar-a-largo as ALL felonies with
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 10:30 AM
Aug 2022

minimum sentencing of 3 years in jail.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
54. What an idiot! How much longer do we have to deal with this crap? ...
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 10:44 AM
Aug 2022

How is giving US secrets to foreigners a 1st Amendment right?

(R)'s spaghetti logic would mean we shouldn't have any laws beacuse their spaghetti logic would eventually show how it violated at least one amendment.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
58. Of course he did
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 11:05 AM
Aug 2022

And if it was a Dem stealing documents, he'd be going "Execute him by firing squad at dawn". The lying, treasonous hypocrite. I hope the money to his house is located, even McCain knew he was a russian asset.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
62. They really don't even try to conseal anything anymore, do they?
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 11:26 AM
Aug 2022

Rand Paul's act acknowledges the upcoming convictions of Trump and others (possibly even Rand Paul)!

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
68. Going to share a little Old Time Religion with Brother Paul here. . .
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 01:43 PM
Aug 2022

. . . Because he's a good Christian, right? The kind that knows we need more church and less rule of law in this country.

Proverbs 6:16-19

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
70. I wonder what deal was made to cause Rand Paul to tolerate espionage?
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 02:00 PM
Aug 2022

particularly since:

On February 12, 2019, Senators Ed Markey, Jeff Merkley, and Rand Paul introduced a
bipartisan resolution requiring that any deal to share nuclear technology with Saudi Arabia block
the Kingdom from creating a nuclear weapon.

Despite these concerns, the White House appears to be proceeding. As recently as
February 12, 2019, the President reportedly met with nuclear power developers at the White
House to discuss sharing nuclear technology with Saudi Arabia.


https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/Trump%20Saudi%20Nuclear%20Report%20-%202-19-2019.pdf

I guess in Trump-world money trumps national security.

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
73. FFF - another 'grass roots' group sponsored by Russia?
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 02:32 PM
Aug 2022

FFF - another 'grass roots' group sponsored by Russia?

Do they get their funding in rubles from NRA?

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
77. FIRST of all SIT DOWN
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 06:28 PM
Aug 2022

AND SHUT THE FUCK UP, SECONDLY BE PREPAIRED FOR THE FBI TO FIND OUT WHERE you were JAN 6TH!!

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
85. Better idea - we offer you a blindfold and a cigarette
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 03:51 PM
Aug 2022

Just before you’re dispatched for your traitorous actions - comrade.

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