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Polybius

(15,476 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 11:43 PM Aug 2022

Wendy's Employee Charged With Murder After Punching Customer

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Source: Court TV

PRESCOTT VALLEY, AZ (KNXV) — A Wendy’s employee is facing second-degree murder charges after allegedly punching a customer in Arizona.

On July 26, police were called to a Wendy’s restaurant located in Prescott Valley, Arizona for an injured person.

A customer had complained about his food order, which led employee Antoine Kendrick to come out from behind the counter and hit the 67-year-old customer in the head, according to the Prescott Valley Police Department.

The customer then fell to the floor, hit his head, and lost consciousness. He was later flown to a Phoenix-area hospital where he died on August 5.

Read more: https://www.courttv.com/news/wendys-employee-charged-with-murder-after-punching-customer/



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Wendy's Employee Charged With Murder After Punching Customer (Original Post) Polybius Aug 2022 OP
That is horrible. madaboutharry Aug 2022 #1
I do not defend such an action--- BUT----- DemocraticPatriot Aug 2022 #2
Or maybe the guy H2O Man Aug 2022 #4
mzmolly Aug 2022 #5
Possibly so. DemocraticPatriot Aug 2022 #8
THIS , none of the issues people in these jobs deal with would justify what we saw on this video JI7 Aug 2022 #9
Bingo. Seems sucker punching old people has gotten to be a thing with the violent... Hekate Aug 2022 #11
Especially small elderly Asian people alphafemale Aug 2022 #24
Not all the attackers are male. yardwork Aug 2022 #26
Or maybe both of them were simply douchebags when it occurred? cstanleytech Aug 2022 #20
Former restaurant worker mzmolly Aug 2022 #6
I did not say there was "an excuse". DemocraticPatriot Aug 2022 #7
I think by giving a 'reason' mzmolly Aug 2022 #10
The worker was way out of line, OK????!!! DemocraticPatriot Aug 2022 #12
Stop trying to blame MAGA for this . His behavior was gross and he most likely has other cases of JI7 Aug 2022 #13
Maybe, maybe not. DemocraticPatriot Aug 2022 #14
I am only trying to bring attention to the issue that low-wage workers DemocraticPatriot Aug 2022 #15
The so called young worker is in his mid 30s and he is a scumbag and you are making excuses for him JI7 Aug 2022 #16
And you are putting words into my mouth. DemocraticPatriot Aug 2022 #17
You seem like a nice H2O Man Aug 2022 #18
"The employee, identified as Antoine Kendrick, is reported to have a long criminal and arrest record speak easy Aug 2022 #19
About as hard as checking the articles links to that supposed criminal record. Lancero Aug 2022 #21
Way out of line? Mysterian Aug 2022 #27
How dare you assert "but?" alphafemale Aug 2022 #23
double sad. Man dead. Young man threw away his life over exchange of words Demovictory9 Aug 2022 #3
What a scumbag. BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2022 #22
Didn't he have a history of violence? I thought I read leftyladyfrommo Aug 2022 #25
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Aug 2022 #28

madaboutharry

(40,220 posts)
1. That is horrible.
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 11:49 PM
Aug 2022

He killed a man over a complaint. It’s just makes you afraid to say anything to anyone because you don’t know who is violent or crazy.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,397 posts)
2. I do not defend such an action--- BUT-----
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 11:57 PM
Aug 2022

restaurant workers, and especially fast-food workers, are under much more stress lately, and suffer from much abuse from many customers...

This unfortunate incident would seem to be a manifestation of the results of such stress. They just cracked...

Maybe the last customer they served screamed at them and hurled epithets because they only received 2 packets of catsup instead of 3-- who knows. That is the life of a fast food worker these days...


It is all horrible. Everyone in this country needs to learn patience, and kindness, and practice it.


Just 'sayin.

H2O Man

(73,605 posts)
4. Or maybe the guy
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:10 AM
Aug 2022

is just a violent fucking asshole.

mzmolly

(51,004 posts)
5. ✔
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:21 AM
Aug 2022

DemocraticPatriot

(4,397 posts)
8. Possibly so.
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:28 AM
Aug 2022

JI7

(89,264 posts)
9. THIS , none of the issues people in these jobs deal with would justify what we saw on this video
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:32 AM
Aug 2022

the only thing that might is if he was first physically attacked .

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
11. Bingo. Seems sucker punching old people has gotten to be a thing with the violent...
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:39 AM
Aug 2022

We’ve seen recorded instances of this behavior by:
Cops
Homeless men
Random people in public
Fast food worker

What the hell. I don’t even want to hear excuses made. The commonality is that afaict the attackers are all male, and that they sucker punch people who are physically vulnerable and who often have brittle bones. This victim died, and others have become crippled for life due to brain injury.

Disgustedly,
Just Another Old Lady

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
24. Especially small elderly Asian people
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 06:39 AM
Aug 2022

Small, frail people just plowed over for kicks and grins it seems.

Obviously racist attacks not getting much attention.

yardwork

(61,706 posts)
26. Not all the attackers are male.
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 08:07 AM
Aug 2022

I recall seeing a video where a female customer at a Kinko's, I think, beat up an older woman.

Some people are violent and out of control.

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
20. Or maybe both of them were simply douchebags when it occurred?
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 05:35 AM
Aug 2022

Even if they both were though there is zero excuses to be had for the physical assault and the younger gentleman should be fully held accountable.

mzmolly

(51,004 posts)
6. Former restaurant worker
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:23 AM
Aug 2022

worker and banker here. I've been berated by the best and have yet to clock someone. There is no excuse for punching a senior citizen over a complaint.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,397 posts)
7. I did not say there was "an excuse".
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:27 AM
Aug 2022

Only that there may be "a reason" why the mental health of such workers seems to be breaking down at a greater rate.

There are plenty of stories about the customers stalking and attacking the restaurant workers. Of course there is no "excuse" for either action, for any violence by either party. If things get too hard, people need to just "walk away"...


mzmolly

(51,004 posts)
10. I think by giving a 'reason'
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:36 AM
Aug 2022

it's excusing the behavior to an extent.

Restaurant work has never been easy. Yes, walking away is a far better answer than sucker punching grandpa.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,397 posts)
12. The worker was way out of line, OK????!!!
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:44 AM
Aug 2022

However, he may have flipped out after waiting on innumerable MAGAts who said
"why didn't you give me enough catsup, N***** ?!" from the drive-thru...


Obviously, there is a mental health problem when a strong young man attacks a senior citizen over a complaint.
I am merely pointing out that day-in-and-day-out abuse by customers against workers might explain why a worker would flip out to such an extent over a complaint, it does not excuse them.

God know I would not want to work at a fast-food restaurant, after reading about all the abuse the workers have been enduring from the customers, and even attacks such as this-- I have read much more about customer abuse of the workers, than about the reverse.


As a former banker, you must be very far from your "fast-food worker" days. I doubt you have a clue what it is like now...
(if I am replying to the same person who said such)



JI7

(89,264 posts)
13. Stop trying to blame MAGA for this . His behavior was gross and he most likely has other cases of
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:04 AM
Aug 2022

being violent against others .

DemocraticPatriot

(4,397 posts)
14. Maybe, maybe not.
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:06 AM
Aug 2022

How do you know? What do you know about his life ???


So, are you a self-appointed defender of MAGA now ???


DemocraticPatriot

(4,397 posts)
15. I am only trying to bring attention to the issue that low-wage workers
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:14 AM
Aug 2022

have become even more abused by the public over the past few years--- and are suffering more mental health issues as a result.

so it is no big surprise to me that some of them are flipping out and becoming violent.
I do not defend their violence... but anyone who would respond as this young worker did against a senior, obviously has some mental health issues.

If he was extremely frustrated and pushed beyond the edge, then I would have much preferred that he kicked the shit out of some MAGA politicians, than some nameless hapless old man. He will pay the price for that. I wish he had made it count for something more.


JI7

(89,264 posts)
16. The so called young worker is in his mid 30s and he is a scumbag and you are making excuses for him
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:20 AM
Aug 2022

DemocraticPatriot

(4,397 posts)
17. And you are putting words into my mouth.
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:27 AM
Aug 2022

Maybe you should calm down, and read all my posts again?


I don't claim to know whether he is a "scumbag" or not. He committed one horrible act here. That is all I know about him.


Maybe you know more? Then tell us all about it.

I was not making excuses for HIM, but noting that there are huge stress problems for low-wage workers AS A CLASS.
Perhaps you don't care about low-wage workers' mental health issues?

FINE. It seems that is something you have not had to worry about for a long time. Maybe never. GOOD FOR YOU!


And adios.

H2O Man

(73,605 posts)
18. You seem like a nice
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 02:07 AM
Aug 2022

person who is willing to look at what might or might not have caused this. My point was that, to whatever degree of stress that job may involve, there are people working in them every day. And I think it is most likely that every day, at least one custom complains about the service and/or their meal. That seems to be far more common in fast food places than in other restaurants. Yet having an employee physically assault a customer for complaining is not a frequent event, or people would be far less likely to enter them.

I also recognize that people are on edge across the country. But I think that, for example, most people on this forum are far more concerned about being the victim of violence at the hands of Trump cultists than, say, McDonald's employees. The maga group has an overlap with another group that tends to have a significant association with violent outbursts in this country -- angry young men.

As someone who has worked in numerous settings, from a restaurant as a teen, to my last job at a mental health clinic, I'm all too familiar with violence. It is rarely the tactic of those with serious mental illnesses. Rather, it tends to be the tactic of those with limited social skills -- such as dispute resolution. And as a general rule, they always target someone who is smaller and weaker than they are. Someone like a child, a spouse, or perhaps an elderly man.

speak easy

(9,302 posts)
19. "The employee, identified as Antoine Kendrick, is reported to have a long criminal and arrest record
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 04:31 AM
Aug 2022

Lancero

(3,013 posts)
21. About as hard as checking the articles links to that supposed criminal record.
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 05:47 AM
Aug 2022

Last edited Wed Aug 17, 2022, 06:33 AM - Edit history (2)

Fun fact, but the link they included doesn't link back to his criminal record. It, instead, links back to another one of their articles on... Brittney Grineer, being required to take a dna test to confirm her gender. I don't see how Brittney Grineer having to take a DNA test is definitive proof that Antoine has a criminal record, but perhaps your standards of proof are different than mine?



So, yeah. None of the news sites have any sort of proof besides a random twitter comment... Which, oddly, none of them seem to be able to link back to? Sketchy source at best, even sketchier since no site can seem to link back to that comment.

Edit - And since you're being snippy about doing web searches for his supposed criminal record, lets google Antoine Kendrick Criminal Record and check the top results.

Result 1 does give a result pointing to a inmate... Who is currently incarcerated in California.

Result 2 points to your article, which as I've already showed is inaccurate.

Result 3 gives a TechnoTrenz article which repeats the claims of him having a criminal record with a source... Which points to another news website, Meaww, but has no further sourcing, can't seem to point back to that twitter comment either, and also according to Media Bias Fact Check (which doesn't say good thingsabout ibtimes.sg either.) is inaccurate at best, and RW to boot. Oh and TechnoTrenz for some reasons classifies their article under their entertainment section? Huh.

Results 4, 5, and 6 are all assorted news articles (12news, yahoo, newsweek) which make no mention of a prior criminal record.

7 is whitepages.

8 is another news website, Saccbee. Again, no mention of a criminal record.

9 is True People Search.

10 is another news website... Meaww. Which I touched upon in result 2. Also, they have their article marked under the entertainment section.

So, yeah... Searched for it myself. End result, I can't help but think the people claiming that he has a prior criminal record are letting his skin color, shall we say, color their judgement of him. I don't know, maybe result number 578 will have his criminal record. Maybe 99 will. Might be somewhere in the 200k-300k range. Just... Seems odd that none of the earlier results can point to it, ya know?

Mysterian

(4,593 posts)
27. Way out of line?
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 08:49 AM
Aug 2022

He fucking murdered an old man.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
23. How dare you assert "but?"
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 06:34 AM
Aug 2022

There is absolutely NO "but."

He brutally and willfully murdered a physically fragile man half his size.

Because he got his fragile male ego challenged?

Is that a reason?

Demovictory9

(32,475 posts)
3. double sad. Man dead. Young man threw away his life over exchange of words
Tue Aug 16, 2022, 11:59 PM
Aug 2022

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
22. What a scumbag.
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 06:02 AM
Aug 2022

That was an absolutely disgusting, cowardly act. Dude should be thrown under the prison.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,870 posts)
25. Didn't he have a history of violence? I thought I read
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 07:53 AM
Aug 2022

that.

Omaha Steve

(99,713 posts)
28. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 09:13 AM
Aug 2022

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