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groundloop

(11,519 posts)
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 03:31 PM Aug 2022

Public schools receive 'In God We Trust' poster donations as new Texas law requires their display

Source: CNN

Texas school districts have begun receiving donated posters and framed copies of the national motto, "In God We Trust," that they will now be required to display in accordance with a new state law.

The law says a public elementary or secondary school or an institution of higher education "must" display a durable poster or framed copy of the motto in a "conspicuous place" in each building if the poster or framed copy is "donated for display at the school or institution" or "purchased from private donations and made available to the school or institution."

[snip]

Some in the community object, including the Southlake Anti-Racism Coalition (SARC).

"SARC is disturbed by the precedent displaying these posters in every school will set and the chilling effect this blatant intrusion of religion in what should be a secular public institution will have on the student body, especially those who do not practice the dominant Christian faith," the community group said in a statement following the donation.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/19/us/texas-schools-in-god-we-trust/index.html

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Public schools receive 'In God We Trust' poster donations as new Texas law requires their display (Original Post) groundloop Aug 2022 OP
Yeah Turbineguy Aug 2022 #1
Any religion that requires mandates C_U_L8R Aug 2022 #2
You said it all. Thanks. ificandream Aug 2022 #21
someone should make an "In God We Trust" poster ... DBoon Aug 2022 #3
+10 sakabatou Aug 2022 #4
Or Vishnu geardaddy Aug 2022 #5
oooooh... a drawing of allah... yikes! lambchopp59 Aug 2022 #48
Or just the name? geardaddy Aug 2022 #54
Or the Flying Spaghetti Monster TheRealNorth Aug 2022 #10
"In gods we trust" forgotmylogin Aug 2022 #12
yes - a "pantheon"! DBoon Aug 2022 #13
Then the Jeezoids'll probably cry, "CRITICAL RELIGIOUS THEORY!" Montauk6 Aug 2022 #19
Cthulhu for President Slammer Aug 2022 #43
If someone submits a 16 by 20-inch poster, with "In God We Trust" in 6-point Calibri, and mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2022 #18
maybe a large naked jesus rurallib Aug 2022 #22
So to speak. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2022 #23
Or our deity has a proper name GreenWave Aug 2022 #20
An entire series of them, all around a classroom! NullTuples Aug 2022 #37
That was my first thought. WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2022 #41
Oh puke geardaddy Aug 2022 #6
Do the schools have any choice? They have to accept the poster, as long as it contains the words mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2022 #7
Do we have a choice? It's on our money. Yuck! Earth-shine Aug 2022 #14
the law is very specific moonshinegnomie Aug 2022 #24
Use a font which gives that up-to-date feeling: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2022 #28
It actually says Safety Dawg Aug 2022 #34
So the message is very clear: Republican Christian God only NullTuples Aug 2022 #38
Apparently no choice Slammer Aug 2022 #44
Photocopy the back of a dollar bill, enlarge it, frame it and put up a title muriel_volestrangler Aug 2022 #8
Gimme that old time religion: let us worship Zarathustra, just the way we used ta... Hekate Aug 2022 #9
Old sign CJW Aug 2022 #11
As long as the JustAnotherGen Aug 2022 #15
So where is the separation church and state lawsuit? Fullduplexxx Aug 2022 #16
Pretty sure that's been tested many times since the Cold War when the slogan was adopted NullTuples Aug 2022 #39
Oh, for Christ's sake! LudwigPastorius Aug 2022 #17
How un-American of them. Yeah they hate USA. rockfordfile Aug 2022 #25
I am fine with it. Missn-Hitch Aug 2022 #26
Some particulars: mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2022 #27
Religious conservatives ruin everything! Initech Aug 2022 #29
And true to form, they seem to be the ones who LEAST believe in God. peppertree Aug 2022 #32
Amen to that! ificandream Aug 2022 #40
If they made me do that BigmanPigman Aug 2022 #30
Can I send them a plaque... paleotn Aug 2022 #31
Which God? The singular God or the three-part God? keithbvadu2 Aug 2022 #33
OK Satanists, you know what to do!!! Coventina Aug 2022 #35
Like this helps jmowreader Aug 2022 #36
Ya'll Qaeda purr-rat beauty Aug 2022 #42
I would contribute to a fund if.... DFW Aug 2022 #45
In Dogs We Trust. twodogsbarking Aug 2022 #46
Actually, some say, trust in the Lord, but tie your Horse to a tree. ashredux Aug 2022 #47
This sounds like a time for Cthulhu alphafemale Aug 2022 #49
if I was still in a school Conjuay Aug 2022 #50
Nothing beats Elohim? czarjak Aug 2022 #51
Of course this is a violation of the Establishment Clause, but ... Novara Aug 2022 #52
It only became the official motto in 1956, during the Red Scare TexasBushwhacker Aug 2022 #53

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
2. Any religion that requires mandates
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 03:34 PM
Aug 2022

isn't worthy of believers. They don't even have faith in their own faith.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
12. "In gods we trust"
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 03:45 PM
Aug 2022

Do a whole series: Greek Mythology, Norse Mythology, Bible, Allah (minus physical depiction, perhaps translated verse), Indian and African deities, the Marvel Universe, Cthulhu mythos...I'm sure we could donate appropriate art/poster work for all these.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
18. If someone submits a 16 by 20-inch poster, with "In God We Trust" in 6-point Calibri, and
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 04:06 PM
Aug 2022

the rest a huge illustration of Beelzebub, then does the school have to accept and display the poster?

Or, even worse, an illustration of a drag queen.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
23. So to speak.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 04:29 PM
Aug 2022

Typically, these bills are jammed through with not a whole lot of thought involved. It's only later, when Speedo-wearing Jesus shows up on the poster, that the legislators begin to see what they have done.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
41. That was my first thought.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 10:30 PM
Aug 2022

People make this way too complicated. I would have put it up in my classroom with the names of the numerous gods around it. Satan, too. The way to beat these people is to use their own bullshit against them.

Pretty sure this town decided to take down the 10 Commandments instead of having to display this statue.
https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2018/12/18/satanic-temple-cleared-to-enter-the-10-commandments-lawsuit

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
7. Do the schools have any choice? They have to accept the poster, as long as it contains the words
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 03:40 PM
Aug 2022

"In God We Trust"?

Hmmmm. That leaves a lot of leeway. Imagine what sort of backgrounds those posters might have.

See https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142958730#post3.

moonshinegnomie

(2,454 posts)
24. the law is very specific
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 04:29 PM
Aug 2022

it has to contain the motto,the us flag and the texas flag.
no other words or pictures.


however the law doesnt say what language the motto has to be in. Im thinking arabic. and donated to schools in the reddest part of texas.
under teh law they have to display them


Safety Dawg

(216 posts)
34. It actually says
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 06:54 PM
Aug 2022

the poster can only contain a representation of the US flag centered under the motto and a representation of the Texas flag. A creative designer can get a ton of mileage out of the word "representation"

Slammer

(714 posts)
44. Apparently no choice
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 02:24 AM
Aug 2022

From the story:

The law says a public elementary or secondary school or an institution of higher education "must" display a durable poster or framed copy of the motto in a "conspicuous place" in each building if the poster or framed copy is "donated for display at the school or institution" or "purchased from private donations and made available to the school or institution."

I'd guess if they already had a donated poster that they wouldn't be forced to put up whatever poster you donated.

On the other hand, most schools in Texas have multiple buildings.

So I'm sure if you wanted to go through the work, you could find school buildings in a major media market in Texas which don't have a poster and donate one with your chosen religious image on it.

You'd probably have to sue if it displayed something other than Christian imagery to get them to actually display it. But the law as written would appear to be on your side (even if the judge probably wouldn't be).

I'd recommend putting a big Star of David on the poster and having the people who don't want it in their schools come across as anti-Semitic. That'd probably be an easier win in the courts than Zeus or Cthulhu.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
8. Photocopy the back of a dollar bill, enlarge it, frame it and put up a title
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 03:41 PM
Aug 2022

"This is what matters most to State Sen. Bryan Hughes".

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
9. Gimme that old time religion: let us worship Zarathustra, just the way we used ta...
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 03:41 PM
Aug 2022

I’m a Zarathustra booster, and it’s good enough for me.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
15. As long as the
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 03:53 PM
Aug 2022

money transferred from me to Texas in 2017 via the SALT Cap isn't being used to pay for it -

To each their own.


The people of Texas have all of the power to change their government.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
39. Pretty sure that's been tested many times since the Cold War when the slogan was adopted
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 07:45 PM
Aug 2022

The court rulings always claimed that since no specific god (except the Christian god, conveniently named "God" just like the proper noun in the motto) was mentioned, it's not exclusionary.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
26. I am fine with it.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 04:53 PM
Aug 2022

Nothing like forced religion to make people question it, then reject it altogether.

Bring on government proselytizing.

Society is moving in the right direction. First, polytheism. Second, monotheism. Keeps getting closer to the true number of god(s).

He he he.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
27. Some particulars:
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 04:59 PM
Aug 2022
Texas public schools required to display “In God We Trust” posters if they are donated

The law passed last year says schools must display the national motto in a “conspicuous place” but only if the poster is “donated” or “purchased by private donations.”

BY BRIAN LOPEZ AUG. 18, 202220 HOURS AGO

Sign up for The Brief, our daily newsletter that keeps readers up to speed on the most essential Texas news.

A new law requiring Texas schools to display donated “In God We Trust” posters is the latest move by Republican lawmakers to bring Christianity into taxpayer-funded institutions.

Under the law, Senate Bill 797, which passed during last year’s legislative session, schools are required to display the posters if they are donated.

{snip}

peppertree

(21,639 posts)
32. And true to form, they seem to be the ones who LEAST believe in God.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 06:04 PM
Aug 2022

Their hate, wars, and pro-fraud/abuse policies of all kinds - are the best proof of that.

BigmanPigman

(51,610 posts)
30. If they made me do that
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 05:28 PM
Aug 2022

I'd go to a different type of school to teach. Maybe that is what they want is to get rid of teachers who love democracy and know the constitution. My school was in a Dem state and there was a picture of Bush up in the office wall because we were supposed to but that was it. Maybe the schools could decide that a "conspicuous place" is in the bathroom or supply room.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
36. Like this helps
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 07:34 PM
Aug 2022

Are we supposed to believe all the bullying, mass shooting, vaping, raping, heroin use, and whatever other bad things are going on in schools are suddenly going to vanish because the Texas government decided to hang posters with the word "God" on them in the hallways?

DFW

(54,405 posts)
45. I would contribute to a fund if....
Sat Aug 20, 2022, 03:34 AM
Aug 2022

Its purpose would be for adding supplements to each poster saying, “all others pay cash.”

Conjuay

(1,392 posts)
50. if I was still in a school
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 10:22 AM
Aug 2022

that put up that poster, a bumper sticker reading “ALL OTHERS PAY CASH!”
would mysteriously appear under it.
Thanks, Jean Shepherd, for looking out for us!

Novara

(5,843 posts)
52. Of course this is a violation of the Establishment Clause, but ...
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 11:20 AM
Aug 2022

... to this SCOTUS, there's no such thing.

So appealing this will do no good. THIS corrupt SCOTUS would invalidate the Establishment Clause if they could. And since they don't have the authority to change the Constitution, they could legally render it meaningless.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
53. It only became the official motto in 1956, during the Red Scare
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 11:53 AM
Aug 2022

The same is true for inserting "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance. It's totally fear based, now and before.

I've always preferred E pluribus unum.

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