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BumRushDaShow

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Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:05 PM Aug 2022

Big student loan forgiveness plan announced by Biden

Last edited Wed Aug 24, 2022, 02:05 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Wednesday announced his long-awaited plan to deliver on a campaign promise to provide $10,000 in student debt cancellation for millions of Americans — and up to $10,000 more for those with the greatest financial need — along with new measures to lower the burden of repayment for their remaining federal student debt.

Borrowers who earn less than $125,000 a year, or families earning less than $250,000, would be eligible for the $10,000 loan forgiveness, Biden announced in a tweet. For recipients of Pell Grants, which are reserved for undergraduates with the most significant financial need, the federal government would cancel up to an additional $10,000 in federal loan debt.

Biden is also extending a pause on federal student loan payments for what he called the “final time” through the end of 2022. He was set to deliver remarks Wednesday afternoon at the White House to unveil his proposal to the public.

If his plan survives legal challenges that are almost certain to come, it could offer a windfall to a swath of the nation in the run-up to this fall’s midterm elections. More than 43 million people have federal student debt, with an average balance of $37,667, according to federal data. Nearly a third of borrowers owe less than $10,000, and about half owe less than $20,000. The White House estimates that Biden’s announcement would erase the federal student debt of about 20 million people.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/student-loan-forgiveness-biden-plan-d9c8e18774a744187c9af634bf4eb728



Original headline and article -

Biden announces long-awaited student debt forgiveness plan

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Joe Biden on Wednesday announced his long-awaited plan to deliver on his campaign promise to provide $10,000 in debt cancellation for millions of Americans -- and up to $10,000 more for those with the greatest financial need. Borrowers who earn less than $125,000 a year, or families earning less than $250,000, would be eligible for the $10,000 loan forgiveness, Biden announced in a tweet.

For recipients of Pell Grants, which are reserved for undergraduates with the most significant financial need, the federal government would cancel up to an additional $10,000 in federal loan debt. Biden is also extending a pause on federal student loan payments for what he called the "final time" through the end of 2022. He was set to deliver remarks Wednesday afternoon at the White House to unveil his proposal to the public.

If his plan survives legal challenges that are almost certain to come, it could offer a windfall to a swath of the nation in the run-up to this fall's midterm elections. More than 43 million people have federal student debt, with an average balance of $37,667, according to federal data. Nearly a third of borrowers owe less than $10,000, and about half owe less than $20,000. The White House estimates that Biden's announcement would erase the federal student debt of about 20 million people.

Proponents say cancellation will narrow the racial wealth gap -- Black students are more likely to borrow federal student loans and at higher amounts than others. Four years after earning bachelor's degrees, Black borrowers owe an average of nearly $25,000 more than their white peers, according to a Brookings Institution study. Still, the action is unlikely to thrill any of the factions that have been jostling for influence as Biden weighs how much to cancel and for whom.


Here is the announcement -




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In keeping with my campaign promise, my Administration is announcing a plan to give working and middle class families breathing room as they prepare to resume federal student loan payments in January 2023.

I'll have more details this afternoon.
The Biden Administration's Student Loan Debt Plan: Forgiving debt: $20,000 if you went to college on Pell Grants $10,000 if you didn't receive Pell Grants Forgiveness only applies to those earling less than $125,000 Student loan pause extended one final time through Dec 31, 2022 Payment based on income: If you have undergraduate loans, you can cap repayment at 5% of your monthly income.
11:32 AM · Aug 24, 2022




Here is the link to the FACT SHEET - https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/08/24/fact-sheet-president-biden-announces-student-loan-relief-for-borrowers-who-need-it-most/

It's pretty lengthy but here is an excerpt and the infographics in there -

FACT SHEET: President Biden Announces Student Loan Relief for Borrowers Who Need It Most
August 24, 2022 Statements and Releases

A three-part plan delivers on President Biden's promise to cancel $10,000 of student debt for low- to middle-income borrowers

President Biden believes that a post-high school education should be a ticket to a middle-class life, but for too many, the cost of borrowing for college is a lifelong burden that deprives them of that opportunity. During the campaign, he promised to provide student debt relief. Today, the Biden Administration is following through on that promise and providing families breathing room as they prepare to start re-paying loans after the economic crisis brought on by the pandemic.

Since 1980, the total cost of both four-year public and four-year private college has nearly tripled, even after accounting for inflation. Federal support has not kept up: Pell Grants once covered nearly 80 percent of the cost of a four-year public college degree for students from working families, but now only cover a third. That has left many students from low- and middle-income families with no choice but to borrow if they want to get a degree. According to a Department of Education analysis, the typical undergraduate student with loans now graduates with nearly $25,000 in debt.



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More: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/08/24/fact-sheet-president-biden-announces-student-loan-relief-for-borrowers-who-need-it-most/
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Big student loan forgiveness plan announced by Biden (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 OP
The christofascists will of course be incensed and probably already have pleadings drawn up... Thomas Hurt Aug 2022 #1
"2000% INFLATION OH NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!" durablend Aug 2022 #10
Education is a public good eissa Aug 2022 #2
I agree! samplegirl Aug 2022 #4
One can hope. n/t xocetaceans Aug 2022 #11
totally true Jerry2144 Aug 2022 #25
This is just a drop in the bucket for me. Lunabell Aug 2022 #3
My ex and I have substantial parent plus loans for our kids.. CentralMass Aug 2022 #6
If you took a loan out for your kids, do you get relief? dem4decades Aug 2022 #18
May be 2024 will bring another relief GentleAlien Aug 2022 #30
Thanks for the hope and that info. Yes this is a very good accomplishment for Biden to add to his CentralMass Aug 2022 #31
So sorry to hear about this Fiendish Thingy Aug 2022 #7
No heirs. Lunabell Aug 2022 #9
yeah, close that damn bankruptcy loophole. how tf a guaranteed loan gets a loophole is a crime. mopinko Aug 2022 #13
It would be so helpful if I could. Lunabell Aug 2022 #15
have an ex paying off nw law. mopinko Aug 2022 #20
I was a poor kid who dreamed big and had no advice... róisín_dubh Aug 2022 #26
Same situation for me SmittyWerben Aug 2022 #27
The scum on twitter are already crying big time. FUCK them Eliot Rosewater Aug 2022 #5
Payment based income is a massive deal!!! Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #8
I agree TheRealNorth Aug 2022 #12
The IBR change gives millions hope Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #16
I agree with income based repayment--as long as you aren't accruing more interest Wingus Dingus Aug 2022 #17
IBR comes with total forgiveness after 20 years for undergrad and 25 years for grad Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #22
and it addresses the whiners. it's fucking fair. mopinko Aug 2022 #21
Sorry I'm a whiner I guess róisín_dubh Aug 2022 #28
i mean the whiners who dont want to see someone else get a break. mopinko Aug 2022 #29
Holy shit! I received Pell Grants throughout my entire time in College!! Damn you Biden!!!! Carlitos Brigante Aug 2022 #14
I applaud President Biden for this step in the right direction... xocetaceans Aug 2022 #19
CNN headline nowforever Aug 2022 #23
Waaah! geardaddy Aug 2022 #24

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. The christofascists will of course be incensed and probably already have pleadings drawn up...
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:10 PM
Aug 2022

to challenge this move.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
2. Education is a public good
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:12 PM
Aug 2022

Maybe one day we'll join other developed nations in extending free education through college. Until then, this small step is one in the right direction.

Jerry2144

(2,102 posts)
25. totally true
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 03:03 PM
Aug 2022

Investing in education and students is an investment in the future. If we could combine this with a basic income, then we can ensure no one is left behind and that all can achieve their potential and their dreams.

Lunabell

(6,082 posts)
3. This is just a drop in the bucket for me.
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:18 PM
Aug 2022

My original loans back in the 80's were around $17,000. I defaulted, got to an IBR, unfortunately defaulted again and now my loan amount with penalties, fees and interest is over $180,000.

I'll never be able to pay this and I'm 60 years old. It will follow me even when I retire. I'm screwed because not even bankruptcy can help me.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
6. My ex and I have substantial parent plus loans for our kids..
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:34 PM
Aug 2022

They have significant loans as well.
So this is a drop in the bucket for many and we'll it is an awesome development it is not a game changer for many borrowers.

GentleAlien

(57 posts)
30. May be 2024 will bring another relief
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 08:05 PM
Aug 2022

My hunch is that Dems will see how well received this one is, and up the ante for 2024.I am just glad Biden lived up to his promise, no more , no less. I also love the timing of it Hope this will attract the youth vote in mid-terms and beyond.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
31. Thanks for the hope and that info. Yes this is a very good accomplishment for Biden to add to his
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 08:26 PM
Aug 2022

achievements

Fiendish Thingy

(15,621 posts)
7. So sorry to hear about this
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:35 PM
Aug 2022

Hope you have spoken to a Lawyer/estate planner to handle your assets in a manner so they go to your heirs and don’t get seized in probate.

Lunabell

(6,082 posts)
9. No heirs.
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:42 PM
Aug 2022

Just fur babies and my partner of 30 years. No assets to speak of and we aren't married so none of my debt is hers. But thanks, it really sucks. And I don't even really use my BS degree.

Lunabell

(6,082 posts)
15. It would be so helpful if I could.
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:59 PM
Aug 2022

I may actually be able to retire at 67. As it is, I will never be able to retire. My partner is 100% disabled on SS for over 10 years. Our savings are at zero. I will probably be working well into my 70's. Oh well.

mopinko

(70,116 posts)
20. have an ex paying off nw law.
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 01:42 PM
Aug 2022

got his golden sheepskin, as befits the golden boy he was. like, adonis. moved to cali, got married, started a practice, had a daughter.
then he got caught growing weed a month before it was legal. went to prison for intent to distribute. went bankrupt. came out, got hooked on coke. life went blooey.
he's 55, works as a paralegal in a downtown firm. does evidence prep. partner work. i think he's up to $20/hr. still paying.

so, yeah, i dont even get that. he should get back every penny he's paid since he filed.

róisín_dubh

(11,795 posts)
26. I was a poor kid who dreamed big and had no advice...
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 03:13 PM
Aug 2022

So I borrowed for three degrees. To be fair, I use them. But my debt is crippling and at 45, I'll never own a house and my credit is well and truly f*cked. I'll work until I'm dead because I'll never be able to retire. I'm thankful I don't have kids.

My only hope is that I'm a UK resident and, once I quit my job in the US, my UK salary is not enough to cover much of a monthly payment.

SmittyWerben

(823 posts)
27. Same situation for me
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 03:13 PM
Aug 2022

I borrowed $72K, have repaid $74K and still owe...$98K. I am in the situation where I am just paying the interest on my loan monthly, that payment is $528. How about we try this for those of us who have a high balance: First, set the interest rate to 0%; second, give credit for the total amount paid by the borrower, (which for me would be $74K)' finally subtract what has been repaid from the total balance left ($98K-$74K=$24K) and allow the borrower to repay that, at 0% interest. Interest on my loans sits at 5.88% btw. Further, look at the interest and penalties that have accrued from any default and adjust those completely out of the balance. These were federal funds to begin with, allow borrowers to repay what they borrowed, fairly, and end the interest rate charged on this money or even set it to a 1 or 2 percent rate. I just hit 60 and see no end to these repayments until my death. I can't default or my SSI will be seized as will any tax return that I may have in the future. Not a great place to be, an I am not alone.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
8. Payment based income is a massive deal!!!
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:36 PM
Aug 2022

Moving from 10% to 5 % is a game changer for millions of people. That halves your payments! WOW!

Also, I received Federal Pell Grants, so now I will be getting $20K chopped off, and will have a better repayment option. Total game changer for my life! Thank you President Biden!!!

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
12. I agree
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:49 PM
Aug 2022

That is the biggest thing I think for people who have big loans and are having trouble paying them back. Even without the loan forgiveness, I would have given Biden major props for this change alone.

The loan forgivess is icing on the cake. While i don't have issues with my repayments, i still have around 30k left to pay on my loans, and I believe I may qualify for the 20k forgiveness since I had Pell Grants as an undergraduate. But we shall see.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
16. The IBR change gives millions hope
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:59 PM
Aug 2022

Those horror stories you hear of people paying $1200 a month while having to move back with their parents are gone now.

And there was talk tat IBR enrollment would now be the default for all borrowers. You can opt out easily, but this would be the default method. This is a massive deal, I am jumping for joy!

Wingus Dingus

(8,054 posts)
17. I agree with income based repayment--as long as you aren't accruing more interest
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 01:10 PM
Aug 2022

on the longer repayment schedule.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
22. IBR comes with total forgiveness after 20 years for undergrad and 25 years for grad
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 01:46 PM
Aug 2022

So interest accruing no longer really matters for those who will pay for the full 20-25 years.

Honestly, IBR makes a ton of sense for anyone who has borrowed a lot now. Even if you're making 6 figures, the payments are not likely to ever pay back the full amount plus interest that you borrowed.

Basically, the cost of going to college is now 5% of your discretionary income for the first 20 years you work after college. That's a totally fair price for almost all students.

róisín_dubh

(11,795 posts)
28. Sorry I'm a whiner I guess
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 03:14 PM
Aug 2022

From what I understand, there's fuck all that I can do about my grad school loans.
Should've just known my place and stayed poor instead of dreaming big.

xocetaceans

(3,871 posts)
19. I applaud President Biden for this step in the right direction...
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 01:37 PM
Aug 2022

...and hope that someday the US will see education as a nation's investment in itself instead of continuing to see education as something that is done solely for one's personal benefit.

Doctors (for example) are able to be paid well (their training is quite costly, though). But isn't it great that there are people who want to become doctors and who do become doctors? Isn't it great that there are also people who want to become virologists, vaccinologists, biochemists, chemists, physicists, structural engineers, architects, computer scientists, mathematicians, historical linguists, archaeologists, astronomers, paleontologists, anthropologists, geologists, etc?

Who can predict who the next Newton (mathematics/physics), Darwin (biology), Maxwell (physics), Einstein (physics), Wegener (geology), Noether (mathematics), Meitner (physics), Franklin (chemistry), Crick (biophysics), Woese (microbiology/biophysics), Lamport (computer science), Watkins (philology), Hadid (architecture), Mirzakhani (mathematics) or Doudna (biochemistry) will be?

All people can contribute. Why should we as a nation continue to filter out people on account of the fact that they cannot pay the cost of getting a higher education? That higher education is not treated as a public good only damages this country.



nowforever

(302 posts)
23. CNN headline
Wed Aug 24, 2022, 01:58 PM
Aug 2022

Biden keeps a promise...but many are disappointed. CNN will now badger democratic guests to explain to the disappointed this failure. No wonder CNN is at bottom of pile. Meanwhile while Trump condemned them and ran the country like an incompetent dictator they cowered and begged to be noticed. Its not straddling the fence when you keep waving at one side( GOP) while doing it.

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