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muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 06:13 AM Aug 2022

Indianapolis: Dutch commando dies after shooting outside US hotel

Source: BBC

A Dutch commando has died of his injuries after being shot outside an Indianapolis hotel while off-duty.
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The city's law enforcement agencies are still investigating the shooting and have so far not reported any arrests. An earlier police statement said detectives did not believe it was a "random act".

According to local media, the incident took place around 03:30 (07:30 GMT) on Saturday outside the Hampton Inn Hotel in the city's entertainment district, where the three soldiers had been staying.

Officials believe the shooting followed a previous altercation including one or multiple other people at another location in the city.

Read more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62712298

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Indianapolis: Dutch commando dies after shooting outside US hotel (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2022 OP
More info from the link: msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #1
Special Ops Training at the Indiana Military Center msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #2
wonder if the Dutch commandos were outed by traitor? Marthe48 Aug 2022 #7
Defintely some intrigue here.. msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #8
I don't think he'd have up-to-date information like this muriel_volestrangler Aug 2022 #9
From now on, I'll wonder Marthe48 Aug 2022 #13
They obviously weren't undercover. Novara Aug 2022 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Effete Snob Aug 2022 #3
Now now Geechie Aug 2022 #14
This is just messed up on so many levels..... turbinetree Aug 2022 #4
Seems mass shootings in the US Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #5
The most severely injured commando has died Danascot Aug 2022 #6
When it comes to nato, only in America. JanMichael Aug 2022 #10
The reporting mentioned an earlier "altercation." Novara Aug 2022 #12
Um, what? róisín_dubh Aug 2022 #19
As you said, this is not a normal country. Novara Aug 2022 #20
Ugly Americans Bayard Aug 2022 #15
When out drinking best not get into any arguments. Emile Aug 2022 #16
Especially in Indy after midnight in the Captain Zero Aug 2022 #18
Foreign military sent to the US for training must be briefed about the potential for violence. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #17

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
1. More info from the link:
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 08:32 AM
Aug 2022

A little more background:

He was one of three Dutch soldiers, all in the US for training exercises, who were wounded in the shooting in the early hours of Saturday.

According to the Dutch Defence Ministry the two other victims are conscious and remain in hospital in stable condition.

Police believe the shooting followed an earlier disturbance in downtown Indianapolis, but gave few details.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
2. Special Ops Training at the Indiana Military Center
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 08:35 AM
Aug 2022

Didn't know Indiana was a location for these things..


Dutch defence officials confirmed the soldiers had been off-duty at the time of the attack and that their families had been notified.

All three of the soldiers were members of the Commando Corps, one of the special operations units in the Netherlands armed forces.

According to AP news agency, the Indiana National Guard said the soldiers had been training at the Muscatatuck Urban Training Center before visiting Indiana's state capital at the end of their duty day.

As well as being used by the US Department of Defense, the Indiana military centre is used by the armed forces of the US's international allies for training purposes as well.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
8. Defintely some intrigue here..
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 09:52 AM
Aug 2022

I'd be interested in follow up reporting....

but won't hold my breath, it's obviously too sensitive

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
9. I don't think he'd have up-to-date information like this
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 10:58 AM
Aug 2022

President Biden hasn't been including him even in things like the "courtesy" informing of Bush and Obama about the killing of al-Zawahri before the public statement was made. Trump's cache of stolen documents was from when he was president.

I would guess this is more likely some stupid bar argument that escalated, with an idiot fetching a gun to get his revenge on them. Whether them being soldiers, or foreign, was particularly relevant, we'll have to wait and see.

Marthe48

(16,967 posts)
13. From now on, I'll wonder
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 12:17 PM
Aug 2022

each document traitor stole is like a stone making ripples in a pond. Maybe the team these guys belong to are interesting to our enemies, maybe this was just a bar fight.

Hoping as many people as possible are connected from betrayal as possibly can be.

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Farmer-Rick

(10,182 posts)
5. Seems mass shootings in the US
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 09:24 AM
Aug 2022

Are as common as bombings in Belfast during the 1980s and 1990s. Not a good place to visit, let alone live in.

Be careful out there.

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
10. When it comes to nato, only in America.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 11:18 AM
Aug 2022

Sure you might get beat up or stabbed or something in the UK or Germany or France. Maybe shot but that's pretty freaking unlikely.

Three trained people probably won't get shot.

Wonder if they were training in urban assault?

USA USA USA USA

Novara

(5,843 posts)
12. The reporting mentioned an earlier "altercation."
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 11:26 AM
Aug 2022

Did they initiate the altercation? I am wondering if they fucked around and found out.

róisín_dubh

(11,795 posts)
19. Um, what?
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:54 AM
Aug 2022

In any normal country, fucking around in a fight shouldn't lead to someone being shot.
This country is a fucking mess.

Captain Zero

(6,806 posts)
18. Especially in Indy after midnight in the
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 08:27 PM
Aug 2022

"Entertainment District"

It would be easier to count the weekend nights this DOESN'T HAPPEN in downtown Indianapolis.

It's drunk and broke people out too late.

Irish_Dem

(47,119 posts)
17. Foreign military sent to the US for training must be briefed about the potential for violence.
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 04:39 PM
Aug 2022

Before they arrive.

Bar fights here in the US can be deadly.

Any altercation can result in death.

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